Drifting Problems...help?

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Hello all,

This is my first time posting on the gtp forums, and for the past 3 months I have been going through all the discussion threads, especially the ones concerning drifting. I've managed to gain some knowledge about drifting, but I still can't pull a decent one off even after 2 months...

For the questions that I'm going to ask below, I'm fairly sure that they've not been asked before, or they may have been, just in a form that I did not interpret correctly, so I assumed (wrongly) that they haven't been asked before. Some may also have been asked before, but I didn't really understand the solutions posted, so I asked them again from my own perspective, thus I believe that any answers graciously provided would be more tailored to my viewpoint :)

I also may not have used the correct search words while using the search function, so even if the quesion was asked before, I would not have stumbled across it.

If anyone can direct me to any previous posts that answer any of my quesitions, I'd appreciate it.

I use a PIII 500 using connectix VGS ver 1.41 to play Gran Turismo 2, and my controller interface is a keyboard, coz I don't have enough dough to buy a GT force or any other wheel.

Cars I've attempted drifting with:
FF: Toyota Celica Mechanical Sports Version '99
Celica concept car
FR: Mazda RX-7 FD3S A-spec '96
Mazda RX-7 FC3S Infini III '91
Nissan Sileighty
Nissan Silvia S13 2000cc
Nissan Silvia S15 Spec-R Aero
Toyota Trueno AE86 Apex '85
4WD: Nissan Skyline R-34 V-Spec II

I use automatic most of the time when practicing to drift so that I don't have to worry so much about shifting the gears, since trying to get the car sideways is hard enough :(


Ok, here goes nothing...

Question 1:
Do the GT3 settings in the drift depot apply to GT2? One person has asked this sometime ago but there was no reply to it...anyway I've tried to apply the settings, and the cars suffered from Massive Understeer. Is there a way to mathematically convert GT3 settings to GT2 settings? BTW I haven't seen any GT2 drift settings in the GT2 forums...

Question 2:
How do you get sideways way well before a corner, let's assume the first turn at Midfield? I've tried to use a combination of feinting, using the e-brake and lifting throttle. For those cars I'e attempted drifting with, I can induce oversteer, but only near the corner; if I try to get sideways well before a corner I'd crash into the wall.

If I don't remember wrongly, in Cudaman's drift guide, he mentioned something related to 'pullling the e-brake to extend the drift if you have turned in too early'. Well, I've tried that but my car still crashes into the wall...the e-brake doesn't seem to help my car stay sideways longer.

Can someone suggest a 'keypress' sequence to get sideways AND stay sideways well befor a corner? :)

Question 3:
How do you maintain a drift? Yes, I've gone through alot of threads that have aked this question, but I still can't pull it off...the common advice seems to be to 'modulate the throttle and steering'.

Well, for the few times I manage to get sideways after a combination of feint and lifting throttle, the car would be sideways, and then I'd find I have to countersteer almost immediately if I didn't want to crash into the wall. By doing this, the car 'recovers' from the drift and goes straight...Thus, my car is sideways for only 1 or 2 seconds... no fun :(

There were a few times I managed to hold the drift a little longer, but by the 3rd or 4th second, my car speed is nearly zero and/or my car is in the grass and/or my car nearly spins (or has spun already). :(

By 'modulating the throttle and steering', what 'keypress' sequence is it? If my car is sideways already, how do I 'modulate the throttle and steering' to get it into a state in which I'm countersteering to prevent my car from spinning out, YET not recovering from the drift?

Question 4:
I've seen Gran Dorifto I and II, there was a scene in which Cudaman was drifting his red FC3S around a really long but gentle corner. How do you ger your car to drift around these sort of corners? I can't seem to find any angle in which my car should be optimally in...too steep and the car hits the wall, too gentle, well, the car is merely gripping the road then.

Quesion 5:
For chuko-doris (ie, swaying down a straight), is it as simple as accelerating and simultaneously turning left and right? Or is it harder than that??

Well that's all for now...I wish that I really have the know-how to guide my car round any corner, not gripping it, not riding the walls, but gracefully drifting it, counteersteering all the way, WITHOUT recovering from the drift or spinning out. If anyone has some sample 'keypress sequences' to share...that'd be nice :)


Thanx fir your help in advance,
Regards.
 
Trying to drift with a keyboard is goign to be a feat in itself. GT3 is easier to drift in because the throttle and brake buttons are linear as well as the steering. With the keyboard its eather full left or full right, or full throttle or no throttle, etc , etc.
 
here the tips for feint .
1. try swing the cars before u reach the corners . than control
your cars speed .
2. use ebare sometimes not fulltime because if u pull to much u will spin . try maintain between ebrake & speed
3. try u low hp 200 to 300 that wat i do the important thing
with sim tire ....for fr cars xample silvia,rx7 ....( my style )
4. for u as abeginner i suggest u try drift with 4wd
either gtr-32 or 34 ...than use thios , bustwave setting
after u master it than try fr cars or mr ....because 4wd are easy to drift compare to fr .

hope those guide are help u . im not good/better than cudaman
& others who use fr cars .....:)
 
Thanx for the comments... :)

So it's nearly impossible to drift properly in GT2 using a keyboard right? No wonder it gets so frustrating... :irked:

One bad thing about feint drift, I think, is that it's impossible to go sideways well before the turn...in fact, you'd have to turn the opposite direction, but thanx for the advice anyway:cool:

Hmm...anyone else got ideas?
 
for gt2 standard cars als can drift . just select drift ...
those guide & setting for gt3 . not sure can use for gt2 or not
btw try the setting first ...than give feedback ok .
 
wow. that is one long post. how many times has this kinda thread started? its kool though. ide answer all those questions, but im kinda lazy right now. gl is all i have to say for now. one thing's for sure though, i dont know anything about gt2 settings.
 
Well, I've tried the Nissan Skyline R-34 V-spec settings for GT3 on my GT2 car...yep, massive understeer and really lousy handling :(
You can't even break the tail end loose with the e-brake... :banghead:

Yep, I'm pretty sure that the GT3 settings are incompatible with GT2...if so, is there any GT2 drift settings depot I can refer to? Also, can I find any GT2 drift guides? Past few days of searching has yielded nil returns...wierd, considereing the popularity of GT2 3-4 years back :rolleyes:

Well I had to type a long post so as to explain my predicaments...I know its a chore a read through...but the again, I was never a concise and succinct writer :D
 
i think i see it before but that was evo setting ...i will search & tell u . look at the last page of drift ....i will try to find it ...ok
 
setting the cars up yourself and learning about them is the best way to go about it.

I still think a keyboard would be nearly impossible to drift with but good luck.
 
You might have to look in the Gran Turismo 2 forum. They may have some drift settings there, or either in the Settings forum. PM the moderator to ask them about where the GT2 settings are. Their names are neon_duke and boombexus.
 
ok here i found at gt2 massage board ...
go at page 11 choose WANNA DRIFT thread .

Just thought I'd start a thread on drifting.

How to do it? What cars? and What tracks?

First I'll get to basic car set-up.
The car should have a "moderate" suspension setting, with soft springs, and shocks around 4-5 on all settings. All setting should be the same, BTW. The toe should be slightly out/in (F/R) -.10/.10 The car should have little rear neg. camber (.9-1.1), while the front shold be moderate (1.7-2.1). The sway bars should be mild, 3/3 or 4/4.

Ride height has a large influence on the ability to break traction easily. With all drift cars, raise the rear ride height to about 10-15mm heigher than the front (which should be as low as possible). This will shift the weight balence to the front wheels, and off the rear.

The transmission should be set up for hard acceleration through gears 1-3, and a bit more for top speed in gears 4-5, or 4-6.

Some cars won't break traction well with Stage 4 turbos or Racing innercoolers, due to increased spool-up time and decreased low-RPM tourque.

Soft tires (not super-soft) work best for drifting. They break & regain traction easily and predictably. Do not use super-soft tires in front, or else you will have an unbalenced drift and tend to spin out...a 4wheel drift is easier to control.

How to do it?:

Easiest way to drift an entire corner is to enter the outside of the corner and start the turn late. For example, in a left turn, stay to the right hand side of the turn, and wait until late in the turn to lift off the gas, start the turn sharply and hit the gass. Control the drift by modulating the throttle. Keep the front wheels pointed in the direction of the turn (pointed the way you want to go). If the back end starts to spin around, get off the gas and let go of the Analog joystick right away. For example; if you're drifting a left turn, and the back end comes out, DO NOT try to correct it by turning the wheels from full lock-left, to full lock-right...you will just spin out. Let go of the gas and steering, the car will straighten itself.

What cars?:

BY FAR, the best car to drift with is the '99 Mitsubi**** Lancer Rally car (won in the Endurance race SS Route VI). The car doesn't use an LSD, but instead it uses a YAW system set on "1" (full soft).

Next, you've got the Nissan Silvias. '91 2000 K's models are easy to snap around, as are the '95 and '97's.

The Lancers, RS specifically since it's lighter than the GSR, work very well.

The AE86's work well (Toyota Tureno), good balence.

The R34 GT-S (the RWD car) works well.

The Escort Rally Car works very well.

The Audi-TT works very, very well.

The Cusco Impreza and APEX Tureno both work well when set up correctly. i.e. low rear downforce, soft rear tires, hard LSD. These cars are hard to break loose and spin when setup for road racing.

more at that thread even i wii try it later ....ok hope this help .

:D :) ;)
 
here the setting for gtr

equip the Autech 4-door GT-R Skyline with super-soft's up front, and Sports tires in rear. Along with all the racing goodies (turbo &exhaust and such).

Suspension Setup:

9.5/11.00
100/115
6/7
5/5
1.8/.9
-.20/.20
3/4

LSD
6/21
34/41
16/21

ASCS @ 101

Take it to Autum Mini and enjoy full-lock-to-full-lock drifting on every turn & transition
 
one more

The Audi S4 is!

This car is a barrel of freakn monkeys to drive! Perfect drifts on EVERY turn. Easily to drift, easy to control.....the car is freaken perfect. Awesome replays. My new favorite car.

Car Setup:
......Spring Rate --12.2/14.5
.....Ride Height -- 104/114
...............Bound -- 8/9
...........Rebound -- 8/9
.........Camber -- 1.7/1.0
........Toe -- neg.10/pos.10
..............Stab -- 3/3

Brake Controller 24/24

------LSD------
Front / Rear
6 / 9
30 / 36
11 / 16

Upgrade everything to "Racing Spec" (no Racing Modification, however)....Stage 3 weight reduction, Stage 4 turbo, Racing exhaust & innercooler, ECU, p&p, engine balancing...ect...ect

Run Super Soft tires up front, and the Sports tires in back.

Take it to Laguna Seca (the 4WD race), turn in a little late in the corners...downshift once or twice (usaully hit corners in 3rd)...stomp the gas....keep the front tires pointed the direction you wish to do.......and WHEWWHOOHOO!........you're drifting!

-----Those of you who drive with the Auto Tranny may have a hard time drifting well.....as you'll need to be able to control the gearbox to it doesn't decideto upshift in the middle of a drift....thus, dropping the revs/power and ending the drift.
 

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