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Alright recently I decided I really needed to learn how to drift in GT5. I've attempted it before but never for a period of more then 5 minutes before deciding to back out. Now I know it takes a while to learn and master but if anyone is willing to lend me some help it would be much appreciated. What kind of settings to people tend to use out there while drifting (what assists on and off) what tuning parts and setups people have ( I heard many people use comfort softs?) Most importantly however what good car would people recommend to get started, I see many people using Nissan's (mostly Silvia's) and wonder if that might be any good.
 
Alright recently I decided I really needed to learn how to drift in GT5. I've attempted it before but never for a period of more then 5 minutes before deciding to back out. Now I know it takes a while to learn and master but if anyone is willing to lend me some help it would be much appreciated. What kind of settings to people tend to use out there while drifting (what assists on and off) what tuning parts and setups people have ( I heard many people use comfort softs?) Most importantly however what good car would people recommend to get started, I see many people using Nissan's (mostly Silvia's) and wonder if that might be any good.

OK, in this part of the forum most people who drift use Comfort Hards. You should have all assists off beside ABS if you need it. I would recommend using Manual, so the car does not shift as soon as it hits the redline. When I first started I used a stock Mazda RX7 right from the recommended cars. It is not to powerful and it is fairly easy to drift stock. Another car that I find easy when beginning would be the TVR Tamora stock. The reason I am giving you stock cars is because it will teach you what to do under certain situations. Understeer, you give it more gas which will create more wheelspin. Oversteer you let off the gas which reduces wheelspin. In drifting you have to learn throttle control and steering control. If you counter steer not enough you will spin, if you counter steer to much your car will snap back the way you are turning. When you get good drifting something stock, PM me and I will send you a car with a setup that will help you out. Hope this helps!

Also check this link out.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=176507
 
That helped quite a bit thanks man, I'm already using manual so that shouldnt be a problem. However I do have one more question is it better to drift with a wheel or controller because I'm currently using a wheel and don't want to transition back to controller.
 
That helped quite a bit thanks man, I'm already using manual so that shouldnt be a problem. However I do have one more question is it better to drift with a wheel or controller because I'm currently using a wheel and don't want to transition back to controller.

Wheel is fine, it will take a bit longer to learn on a wheel but in the long run it looks a lot smoother. So just keep practicing and if you need any help send me a PM.
 
There are really 2 distinct ways to learn to drift, short-term gain and long-term gain.

If you want quick results as soon as possible, work on reducing the skill factor in drifting. If you want the best quality results but with short-term failures, work on increasing the skill factor.

This means that if you want to learn how to drift as well as possible no matter how long it takes, start drifting with a car that has as little power as possible, with the most basic, soft, unimpressive suspension and drivetrain configuration as possible. I believe the best car to start off with and learn is the '78 280ZX-L, completely and absolutely stock. This car, to drift optimally, requires you to learn the basic forms and types of drifting that let you drive much faster cars with more precision and awareness of what is going on. Use the car with Comfort Soft tires. Eventually, you will reduce these to comfort hard or medium, but stay with Soft for now as the body roll is necessary and important to learn the drifting characteristics.

If you want to see results, in forms of consistent and fast drifting with whatever angle you please, then you want to reduce the skill factor. In this case, you want a car that has very much power, very little body roll, and a very neutral and slow rotation. I do not advocate this type of learning and drifting (as common as it is) so I won't recommend a method or car to learn. Trust me in that I learned to drift twice. First to produce quick results, and then I realized my mistakes and learned again to become a good drifter.

Drive with no aids, and no ABS. I cannot stress how many drifters limit themselves severely by using ABS. Threshold braking, trail braking, and beyond threshold braking are vital and necessary to moving beyond a novice drifter, and learning to drive with ABS will only lengthen the time it takes for you to improve. Never slam the brake pedal without knowing exactly how much is necessary to use at a given point for what you want to do. Get good at this, and you won't need an E-brake, though I understand the E-brake's use when learning to drift.

Learn to go lock-to-lock as fast yet smooth as possible with your wheel. On the controller, learn the millimeters of button or trigger input necessary for each fraction of the on-screen throttle position.

The first thing you need to learn is how countersteer, throttle input, and angle can all be adjusted mid-corner to correct mistakes, and how each of those interacts. For example, entering a corner too fast means you should increase your throttle input and countersteer for a higher angle, which will slow your car faster mid-corner. Too much throttle entering a corner and you should increase countersteer to reduce angle. These factors allow you to produce consistent drifts where you don't wreck. Once you can do that, then focus on precision.
 
Most wheel drifters I know use abs if you don't your steering becomes light and you loose the feel of the car.
 
Reddee
Most wheel drifters I know use abs if you don't your steering becomes light and you loose the feel of the car.

Hey i beg to differ haha. I am smooth as silk and i don't use ABS. It's all about your preference though. I don't use ABS for anything really. I hate the hidden stability factors in it
 
ORPHANTHIRTY7
Hey i beg to differ haha. I am smooth as silk and i don't use ABS. It's all about your preference though. I don't use ABS for anything really. I hate the hidden stability factors in it
Ye but you use your brake as E brake Zach . Most of the other wheel drifters I know don't I know Dom uses abs and she's a beast on the wheel.
 
Reddee
Ye but you use your brake as E brake Zach . Most of the other wheel drifters I know don't I know Dom uses abs and she's a beast on the wheel.

Toshay. True very true. And yes she does
 
OK, in this part of the forum most people who drift use Comfort Hards. You should have all assists off beside ABS if you need it. I would recommend using Manual, so the car does not shift as soon as it hits the redline. When I first started I used a stock Mazda RX7 right from the recommended cars. It is not to powerful and it is fairly easy to drift stock. Another car that I find easy when beginning would be the TVR Tamora stock. The reason I am giving you stock cars is because it will teach you what to do under certain situations. Understeer, you give it more gas which will create more wheelspin. Oversteer you let off the gas which reduces wheelspin. In drifting you have to learn throttle control and steering control. If you counter steer not enough you will spin, if you counter steer to much your car will snap back the way you are turning. When you get good drifting something stock, PM me and I will send you a car with a setup that will help you out. Hope this helps!

Also check this link out.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=176507

When I drift, I keep it in automatic but turn the LSD's Torque to between 50-60 so it doesn't shift at the redline and so it kicks up tons of smoke from it spinning, I also keep the acceleration up at 45-50 so it doesn't just sit there and make smoke, it actually moves. This was why my Honda Odyssey, Honda Element, VW Sambabus, and Subaru 360 actually worked. I'm currenty working on a Le Mans drift project. And add me on PSN: tnogumbo, I'm on almost every day.
 
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Reason you will be smooth

Alright recently I decided I really needed to learn how to drift in GT5. I've attempted it before but never for a period of more then 5 minutes before deciding to back out. Now I know it takes a while to learn and master but if anyone is willing to lend me some help it would be much appreciated. What kind of settings to people tend to use out there while drifting (what assists on and off) what tuning parts and setups people have ( I heard many people use comfort softs?) Most importantly however what good car would people recommend to get started, I see many people using Nissan's (mostly Silvia's) and wonder if that might be any good.


I honestly started on +7, thats just because I didn't realize it to change it. I'll post a video on my drifting setup and real drifting car as an example of how I drift.
 
This means that if you want to learn how to drift as well as possible no matter how long it takes, start drifting with a car that has as little power as possible, with the most basic, soft, unimpressive suspension and drivetrain configuration as possible. I believe the best car to start off with and learn is the '78 280ZX-L, completely and absolutely stock. This car, to drift optimally, requires you to learn the basic forms and types of drifting that let you drive much faster cars with more precision and awareness of what is going on. Use the car with Comfort Soft tires. Eventually, you will reduce these to comfort hard or medium, but stay with Soft for now as the body roll is necessary and important to learn the drifting characteristics.

Stupidity. You do not tell soccer players to learn to play soccer by starting with Rugby techniques. Why do it differently with drifting? I agree about the power, this doesnt need to be much. But there should ALWAYS be Hards and a decent diff on a drift car.

If you want to see results, in forms of consistent and fast drifting with whatever angle you please, then you want to reduce the skill factor. In this case, you want a car that has very much power, very little body roll, and a very neutral and slow rotation. I do not advocate this type of learning and drifting (as common as it is) so I won't recommend a method or car to learn. Trust me in that I learned to drift twice. First to produce quick results, and then I realized my mistakes and learned again to become a good drifter.
There is no way to learn drifting fast, no matter what people say. Drifting is about car control, which is gained from experience, nothing else.
My tip: Start by learning how to throw your car sideways and regain control.

Drive with no aids, and no ABS. I cannot stress how many drifters limit themselves severely by using ABS. Threshold braking, trail braking, and beyond threshold braking are vital and necessary to moving beyond a novice drifter, and learning to drive with ABS will only lengthen the time it takes for you to improve. Never slam the brake pedal without knowing exactly how much is necessary to use at a given point for what you want to do. Get good at this, and you won't need an E-brake, though I understand the E-brake's use when learning to drift.

No ABS? A LOT of drifters both virtually and in real life use ABS. Why? Better braking control and response. More control, is less risks. The ore control, the more risks you can take without being stupid. I don't use ABS because i dont have an ebrake, and wit ha rear brake balance the car handles like if it was using an ebrake. Thats the only reason NOT to use an ebrake.

Learn to go lock-to-lock as fast yet smooth as possible with your wheel. On the controller, learn the millimeters of button or trigger input necessary for each fraction of the on-screen throttle position.

The reactions needed for fast transitioning come with weeks of experience, nothing else. Transitioning is the hardest part in drifting for me, because i have issues anticipating (virtual) weight transitions. This is the thing that needs most practice and experience.

The first thing you need to learn is how countersteer, throttle input, and angle can all be adjusted mid-corner to correct mistakes, and how each of those interacts. For example, entering a corner too fast means you should increase your throttle input and countersteer for a higher angle, which will slow your car faster mid-corner. Too much throttle entering a corner and you should increase countersteer to reduce angle. These factors allow you to produce consistent drifts where you don't wreck. Once you can do that, then focus on precision.

The first thing he needs to learn is to get control of his car as soon as he kicks the drift. Then you practice on holding it. Extending drifts isnt easy, but he needs to understand it by learning it. Can't do it any other way. You suggest he starts by plunging in the deep.

My opinion? Back to basics. The right ones. ;) If you need help, some of the Burst members would be okay to help you, including me.

Ye but you use your brake as E brake Zach . Most of the other wheel drifters I know don't I know Dom uses abs and she's a beast on the wheel.

A beast? Thanks i guess, but i prefer something like princess :p Beast sounds so... Idk, weird :p For girls i mean.
 
Stupidity. You do not tell soccer players to learn to play soccer by starting with Rugby techniques. Why do it differently with drifting? I agree about the power, this doesnt need to be much. But there should ALWAYS be Hards and a decent diff on a drift car.


There is no way to learn drifting fast, no matter what people say. Drifting is about car control, which is gained from experience, nothing else.
My tip: Start by learning how to throw your car sideways and regain control.



No ABS? A LOT of drifters both virtually and in real life use ABS. Why? Better braking control and response. More control, is less risks. The ore control, the more risks you can take without being stupid. I don't use ABS because i dont have an ebrake, and wit ha rear brake balance the car handles like if it was using an ebrake. Thats the only reason NOT to use an ebrake.



The reactions needed for fast transitioning come with weeks of experience, nothing else. Transitioning is the hardest part in drifting for me, because i have issues anticipating (virtual) weight transitions. This is the thing that needs most practice and experience.



The first thing he needs to learn is to get control of his car as soon as he kicks the drift. Then you practice on holding it. Extending drifts isnt easy, but he needs to understand it by learning it. Can't do it any other way. You suggest he starts by plunging in the deep.

My opinion? Back to basics. The right ones. ;) If you need help, some of the Burst members would be okay to help you, including me.



A beast? Thanks i guess, but i prefer something like princess :p Beast sounds so... Idk, weird :p For girls i mean.

Look, you did this on my ridiculous drift cars thread. Don't attack the person and his ideas, just offer your own ideas, its all opinionated, we don't HAVE to follow your directions, people have different methods that work for them, you best method might not be the best for someone else, just like my method won't work for you. Don't go attacking other people and their viewpoints because I know for sure you're not the best in GT5 drifting (neither am I), but offer a method instead of putting dows someone else's.
 
Look, you did this on my ridiculous drift cars thread. Don't attack the person and his ideas, just offer your own ideas, its all opinionated, we don't HAVE to follow your directions, people have different methods that work for them, you best method might not be the best for someone else, just like my method won't work for you. Don't go attacking other people and their viewpoints because I know for sure you're not the best in GT5 drifting (neither am I), but offer a method instead of putting dows someone else's.

Every comment there gave you a possible thing to try and learn. Yes i know i'm not the best, but there aren't a lot with decent real life drifting experience. If you don't want my advice, fine. Stick to yourself. But don't expect anything from me, and hopefully not from my team either, because you're too stubborn to accept help from someone who has a little clue what she talks about. Thank you.
 
Every comment there gave you a possible thing to try and learn. Yes i know i'm not the best, but there aren't a lot with decent real life drifting experience. If you don't want my advice, fine. Stick to yourself. But don't expect anything from me, and hopefully not from my team either, because you're too stubborn to accept help from someone who has a little clue what she talks about. Thank you.

Don't tell me I don't try anything, I know you won't try my setup or the setup you sacked, my setup works well for me, it works well enough to get gold in drifting seasonal.
 
Stupidity. You do not tell soccer players to learn to play soccer by starting with Rugby techniques. Why do it differently with drifting? I agree about the power, this doesnt need to be much. But there should ALWAYS be Hards and a decent diff on a drift car.

There is no way to learn drifting fast, no matter what people say. Drifting is about car control, which is gained from experience, nothing else.
My tip: Start by learning how to throw your car sideways and regain control.

No ABS? A LOT of drifters both virtually and in real life use ABS. Why? Better braking control and response. More control, is less risks. The ore control, the more risks you can take without being stupid. I don't use ABS because i dont have an ebrake, and wit ha rear brake balance the car handles like if it was using an ebrake. Thats the only reason NOT to use an ebrake.

The reactions needed for fast transitioning come with weeks of experience, nothing else. Transitioning is the hardest part in drifting for me, because i have issues anticipating (virtual) weight transitions. This is the thing that needs most practice and experience.

The first thing he needs to learn is to get control of his car as soon as he kicks the drift. Then you practice on holding it. Extending drifts isnt easy, but he needs to understand it by learning it. Can't do it any other way. You suggest he starts by plunging in the deep.

My opinion? Back to basics. The right ones. ;) If you need help, some of the Burst members would be okay to help you, including me.

If you keep practicing and thinking, you and your team might understand this as well as I do eventually. Good luck.
 
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If you keep practicing and thinking, you and your team might understand this as well as I do eventually. Good luck.

Very funny mate. You're not the only one with real life drift experience, (if you even have it,) and i see what you want him to learn... But learning to drift should be learned in the right way.

Why tell him to start on CS with a crap setup? Might was well let him start with a 4WD on sport tires then. :/

Don't tell me I don't try anything, I know you won't try my setup or the setup you sacked, my setup works well for me, it works well enough to get gold in drifting seasonal.

I would try it if it had a good Differential setup AND it made sense. Why try something you know won't work as well as it should?
 
GhostZ
If you keep practicing and thinking, you and your team might understand this as well as I do eventually. Good luck.

Actually she is correct on the brake balance in the rear and no ABS. I have been using it for a very long time. It feels the same if not better as setting the e brake as the right joystick down (which makes it fully adjustable)

Also one thing I can't stress enough is that ABS in GT5 has many stability factors in it to be like real life ABS. In GT5 it is by far one of those things that are garbage in the game.

I just want to add that. Not saying if you use ABS you are cheating or anything like that but it is about feel and preference
 
True, that's the one thing I hate about ABS the fact that it is some magical stability manager, I'm going to start driving without it (heard it might be a long and difficult transition, but one that is beneficial in the end) and hopefully in doing so play the game as it's meant to be!
 
THECaptainsAUDI
True, that's the one thing I hate about ABS the fact that it is some magical stability manager, I'm going to start driving without it (heard it might be a long and difficult transition, but one that is beneficial in the end) and hopefully in doing so play the game as it's meant to be!

True. But no harm in doing different. It is just a better feel if you get what I mean
 
True. But no harm in doing different. It is just a better feel if you get what I mean

ABS had the magical ability to only lock the front wheels instead of all wheels causing the back wheels to kick out because they're still turning, but the wheels need to kick out in the correct direction and because the front wheels aren't moving, they are susceptible to sudden changes and movements.
 
saxplayer1998
ABS had the magical ability to only lock the front wheels instead of all wheels causing the back wheels to kick out because they're still turning, but the wheels need to kick out in the correct direction and because the front wheels aren't moving, they are susceptible to sudden changes and movements.

Not that it has a ASM (active stability management) effect with ABS on. Which it shouldn't at all
 
If you keep practicing and thinking, you and your team might understand this as well as I do eventually. Good luck.

If anyone, she actually has the experience and skill to be providing advice on this subject, both in game and out. No need to talk down to her and her team.
I would not use anything other than comfort hard as each tire is quite different to be trying to switch from soft down to hard. Just use hard's in a car with no more than 200hp or so and a differential.
Don't stress about getting good quickly, when you are new just keep it fun. If it is not fun then you won't keep coming back for more. That is the main thing. Don't get frustrated about it. If you start getting frustrated then take a break and try to find out why you are having the problem that you are. If you need help figuring out why your having a problem then feel free to ask here in the forum, or find a member willing to help out online.(like gonales)
Another thing you can do is find some good drifters online and drift with them day in day out. By doing that you will actually learn faster by driving with others who are of a high skill level. Where you are able to see how they drift like they do and have them give you pointers on the spot.
It takes a lot of work to get the skills to be good in game, but its worth it if you are going to stick around.
 
Honestly Saxplayer1998 I have never seen you online or have I seen you In a comp worth talking about. For you and ghost to attack Nydoria for her very helpful comments you are weak have you ever drifted with her you could learn alot and I'm sure if you didn't shut her down on gtp that she would't mind giving you guys a few hints or is it that she is a girl and you feel that she doesn't belong. tisk tisk
 
Are you using a wheel?

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You might want to check out my how to drift videos.

What to expect.


How to drift.


I must say the second video is far from perfect but it's a lot more informative than anything else i have seen on YouTube.

I do kind of have a hard time explaining things in the second video, it's hard to drift and explain it at the same time. :lol:

hope this helps out. 👍
 
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Um I don't mean to be the one to sound all smart but Everything about drifting AND driving is all about the feel. What may be uncontrollable for one person has to much control for another. as an example, Zach says that you will be smoother on -2 Steering Sensitivity, and thats true. But I drift on +7 and I drift very smooth, but that is because i've practice so much with it that I have figured out HOW you get smooth with +7.


My Quote of the Day: Drift if you can, Drift if you can't. Drift is for fun, Expecially if you can't---Me :D
 
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