Drifting tips for DFP please

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Jerg Rush
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BAHAHAHAHA
i can manji in xlink easy with full force feedback. its not hard.
but once you take the lag away, it starts gettin harder to manji(aka sim mode).
 
Suzuki
BAHAHAHAHA
i can Ueo Style in xlink easy with full force feedback. its not hard.
but once you take the lag away, it starts gettin harder to Ueo Style(aka sim mode).
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Yep. I, however, can do the Ueo Style by complete accident. All I need to do is let the wheel work things out on its own and THROTTLE CONTROL. One thing I have learned over practice is that Precise Throttle will always create excellent drifts. 💡
 
lllb0y
How exactly could you change the steering wheel setting to 200 degrees?
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It won't help you much because the game isn't designed for 200 degreess with the DFP. It won't feel the same as say the Driving force 200 degree wheel. When you toggle to 200 degree mode, the game is still translating the inputs to be from a 900 degree wheel.
You can switch by pressing and holding the SELECT, R3 buttons and then press the RIGHT PADDLE BUTTON.
 
i started with the wheel, so im used to drifting with it now. i cant seem to get the hang of drifting with a normal controller. :ouch: i recommend autumn ring mini to start. theres a LOT of low entry speed turns, and not a whole lot of straights. i find that it was easier at first to drift at lower speeds using the DFP. another good course is trial mountain. i found these were the easiest for me to learn how to drift on. i also recommend turning on the in screen wheel display. more often than not, when you first start out, your going to forget where the wheel is, and where center is, until you get used to it. i found that sticking a piece of masking tape on the top of the wheel when the tires are straight helps you see when you are back at 0 degree turning, without having to look down at the wheel all the time . you will see it in your perepheral vision. this will help to see how far you've turned the wheel mid-drift, without taking your eyes off the screen. this has also helped me with linking drifts with the DFP. but thats just me. everyone learns differently. experiment. i need to get a better table to clamp my DFP to. right now its clamped to a $30.00 plastic folding table from walmart :crazy: you want to talk about WOBBLY??? by the end of a run, the dam tables usually a couple feet askew of where i originally put it. definately get a mounting surface with some heft. at LEAST 30- 50 lbs. otherwise you will be throwing your table all across your living room like i am! 👍
 
Flogging a dead... thread.. :dunce:

It's time for me too to sing the DFP blues. Coming from a perfectly smooth co-existence with my old DF, my brand new DFP is really testing my patience these days... I have to say to those who have struggled getting used to the DFP: I feel for you.. this is totally weird :crazy:

I do have a couple of questions for anyone who cares to answer: How long did it take to get used to the 900 rotation, coming from DS2 or a 200 degree wheel.. and did you have any 'eureka' moments along the way that sort of "made" your progress? I'd certainly like to hear what those eurekas were (if any), so I can keep them in mind during this learning process...

For reference: My biggest issues at the moment (day 2 with the DFP) are exit stability, unwinding countersteer, and catching counterdrift (linking). The problem is snapback, of course. I'm getting better with hairpins and double apexes but long sweepers are still pretty random... and links are nowhere to be seen. I tend to flick the wheel 180 degrees at entry and adjust countersteer from there, which seems to work ok for your average mid-low angle drift.
 
^ well since i'm used to driving in RL, the switch o having more steering lock wasnt bad when going from Df to dfp.

The trick is to commit in the beginning and just be smooth, you shouldnt have to countersteer much if your doing it right.

I do alot of drifting in live for speed which has less forgiving physics so to me gt4 is a piece of cake :D

work on just driving fast at 1st. then pick one track to test your car control on. see if you can drift while staying on the race line, drift while huggin inside or outside of corner, things like that.
 
ske, you have to know when your rear is about to catch traction.
you can feel this through the wheel. its hard to explain how this feels. i guess you can say when its about to regain traction youll feel the wheel force lighten up. you have to keep it from getting the light feeling.
as for linking, youll just need enough room to c/s the other way, get off the throttle so it has less momentum, and when you get your desired angle re-apply the throttle. watch some DFP vids that have the gas/brake visible and watch it while they are linking.
hope this was a help.
 
From the first day I got GT4 I had a DFP, march the second. Then it took me like....1 to 2 months to learn FR drifting, that means 900%. Because AWD must be without countersteer I dont see it as drifting with 900%.

FR took me a month....but I had used to wrong settings the whole month long untill I changed some DFP settings.

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Don't loose hope!....
As for your problems on exiting a drift. It can be done smooth, no doubt so dont ever loose hope. But I know you will not;)
I dont really know what I do to exit a corner, I can do it all the time but dont know how, really.

For me:
I think....*imagining*...at the end of a drift I begin to increase my angle a bit and then I just give some flat out power for one millisecond and just RAPIDLY steering the wheel back. But this might seem a little impossible at first and like..you can learn it in other ways too:idea:

Tip for you:
It's much MUCH MUCH(!!!) easier to exit a drift with a second hand car without rigidity upgrades. It really allows you to decrease countersteering PARTLY in an earlier stage than new cars or used ones with rigidity upgrades.
Try to change your car to a used one, if you didn't already.
 
Suzuki
ske, you have to know when your rear is about to catch traction.
you can feel this through the wheel. its hard to explain how this feels. i guess you can say when its about to regain traction youll feel the wheel force lighten up. you have to keep it from getting the light feeling.
as for linking, youll just need enough room to c/s the other way, get off the throttle so it has less momentum, and when you get your desired angle re-apply the throttle. watch some DFP vids that have the gas/brake visible and watch it while they are linking.
hope this was a help.
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I can't "feel" much at all through the DFP yet, the DF did feel a bit more communicative. I'm sure that will come eventually though.

From the vids I've been watching, it looks that I have the timing down pretty good, my problem seems to lie in the amount of countersteer and throttle.. and possibly how fast I wind the wheel. Just waiting for an eureka now lol.. at the moment I'm not making progress at all..
 
I sugest you watch Drifting For Pro vids, and watch closely at the steering and throttle. I couldn't drift with my DFP because I didn't countersteer enough, but now I can control my drift with about 180° of countersteer (gt logo is facing down) and play within 90° of that, more and I usually spin. And with pratice you'll find little tricks that will make it easier. And also you'll need to anticipate when the car is about to regain traction, because it takes more time to turn the wheel than to recenter the joystick.
 
Ske
I can't "feel" much at all through the DFP yet, the DF did feel a bit more communicative. I'm sure that will come eventually though.

From the vids I've been watching, it looks that I have the timing down pretty good, my problem seems to lie in the amount of countersteer and throttle.. and possibly how fast I wind the wheel. Just waiting for an eureka now lol.. at the moment I'm not making progress at all..
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well, whatever you do keep praticing. i also started out GT4 with my DFP. i was so fustrated for the first month or so that i tried drifting. but i kept at it, and i learned how to feel the wheel, how fast i need to c/s, throttle, and brake input.
once i get back home to my DFP ill try to explain in more detail of how to feel if your about to regain traction.
 

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