Drifting using Ebrake.

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This argument is getting out of hand. I can't convience Drift260z that using the ebrake in your drifts is not a sign of amatuer drifting...lol
Well anyone else advocate that the knowledge behind using the ebrake within a drift is a pro level and necessary for some scenarios. Why do real life pros do it?
 
It is necessary for very few scenarios excluding the use of ff... However skillfull use of e brakes doesnt mean amaturity... it is however not my preferred method of drift as its really hard to get smooth fr mr or 4wd with them... there are many other ways of loosing traction and i would suggest all of them over e brake 98% of the time... i think there is only one or two corners i e brake... and that is on cote... so yeah... but again i use other forms of drift most of hte time...
 
I don't use the side break at all in GT3(even on Cote). I just think if you use the side break all the way through or in the middle-end of your drift, it is amateur. the pros(D1GP) use it to start the drift early on the straights but I just don't like the side break drift. the side break method is good for beginners but the pro's hsould be able to break traction other with methods cause of higher skill level.
 
You never really "need" the ebrake to drift on any course, but D1 drivers use them all the time because you can make your drift look a lot better on certain corners if you use it. For example...a tight left turn at the end of a long straight, pros would probably drift back and forth down the straight then on the last choku-dori to the right side, pull the ebrake and alternate with the gas to keep it sideways for the rest of the straight until you're deep enough into the corner that you could drift the rest of the way through like you normally would.
 
who can drift the small little u on cote nicely without the ebrake... i am talking about hte one coming off the hill... tell me how and when one can do it... most cars are too large to go sideways in that straight... and i can never get my car sideways enough in that tight a turn...
 
Originally posted by Drift260Z
what? I don't use the side brake at all on Cote D' Azur.
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If you think ebraking is an amateurs move...I challenge you to try learning to use it as a chokudori on the first turn of Apricot Hill or the first turn in Leguna Seca. On Apricot Hill drift the whole corner starting from 10 car lengths your normal point....pull the ebrake and then continue to drift utilizing the gas and brake. For Leguna Seca be at the top of the hill and pull the drift like I do on my chokudori video I posted.

I'll have a link to a couple videos in a bit here.
 
Yes... and with the aid of the ebrake some corners can be linked beautifully... because without
its aid your speed would not be great enough to bridge the short gap... and its no easy task... When i drift cote i use the e brake in only one corner... that dammed little u... i am sure it is possible to do it with sims and a fient drift... but i always find that i hit the dam high rumble strips when i do that... the ebrake lets me get past it... Its not like i am slamming on it or pulling it hard... i am barely using it... that was just to clarify...

well breaker you have inspired me to get off my ass and try something new... i am in the mood for some exhibition drifting...
 
In this video, I purposely turn early into the apex of the corner to demostrate that a pull of the ebrake (A QUICK PULL like real life drifters do)...a pro drifters move, can correct your drifts in the first couple of clips. The of the first huge turn in APricot Hill see how I come out of the pits and then I pull the ebrake at the begining of my drift, not in the middle : the begining, and then I use gas and pedals to control the rest. I doubt that an amateur understands how to utilize the ebrake like that.


Its purposly done in my videos because I'm trying to demonstrate drifting control, if the battle requires that ebrakes are amatuers than you better say it in the requirements....cough ...cough..Drift260z

http://pergatory.net/gtp/diablo.mpg
right click and save.
 
Originally posted by LanEvo
uhh..TCS? lmao. and the sidebrake wasn't needed on those certain drifts.
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Make sure you read everything. The scenario was set up so the sidebrakes were done on purpose. The side brake was only used in the begining of the clips and not the turn before the starting line.
 
Originally posted by bengee
who can drift the small little u on cote nicely without the ebrake... i am talking about hte one coming off the hill... tell me how and when one can do it... most cars are too large to go sideways in that straight... and i can never get my car sideways enough in that tight a turn...
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You mean the second tight u-turn? That's the only one I e-brake on for Cote. Here's a video:
http://pergatory.net/gt3/R32_Cote_Solo_01.mpg
That's a horrible lap but it's a good example anyway... Skyline is a big car, and I just barely tap the e-brake.

As far as e-braking goes, doing it at the exit would be stupid of course, and holding it the whole time is amateur. However, using it at the entrance or mid-corner on a double apex is definetely not amateur. It actually looks quite impressive if done correctly (watch any D1 video).
 
Originally posted by BreakerOhio
In this video, I purposely turn early into the apex of the corner to demostrate that a pull of the ebrake (A QUICK PULL like real life drifters do)...a pro drifters move, can correct your drifts in the first couple of clips. The of the first huge turn in APricot Hill see how I come out of the pits and then I pull the ebrake at the begining of my drift, not in the middle : the begining, and then I use gas and pedals to control the rest. I doubt that an amateur understands how to utilize the ebrake like that.


Its purposly done in my videos because I'm trying to demonstrate drifting control, if the battle requires that ebrakes are amatuers than you better say it in the requirements....cough ...cough..Drift260z

http://pergatory.net/gtp/diablo.mpg
right click and save.
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how did you get the diablo?:confused:
 
depending on what car, i typically dont use it, but then again i have a 700 HP (lowest it'll go w/o goin to stock) Jag XJ road car, and its so friggin hard to make that thing steer, so alil tap of the ebrake doesnt hurt
 
taken from thread "poll: Front Rear or All fours"

I don't know if anyone will see this since it's an old thread but hey I used the search function and avoided an "unnessary post".

Anyways, I've been searching about what exactly qualifies as a "drift" and I still don't quite know but I'd like to know... How would you drift a FWD car other than using the eBrake?? Being a FWD car I was flipping a ***** the other day and happen to break the front wheels loose and got a massive understeer going (more of front end push than understeer). Thanks

Nick :banghead:
 
Originally posted by VipFREAK

Anyways, I've been searching about what exactly qualifies as a "drift" and I still don't quite know but I'd like to know... How would you drift a FWD car other than using the eBrake?? Being a FWD car I was flipping a ***** the other day and happen to break the front wheels loose and got a massive understeer going (more of front end push than understeer). Thanks

Nick :banghead:
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You can cause oversteer by letting off the gas as you begin to take a corner, but even then, if you touch the gas again the front wheels will pull you out of it. I've used Sheron's civic type r settings to do some decent FWD drifting without the ebrake, but I still don't like it. There are a few guys who are able to do it pretty well and I applaud them, but I just don't think it's worth wasting your time on, especially when there's so many nice RWD, AWD cars in the game.
 
You say its an amateurs move..I;m with you there, that it isnt cool n all, but we aren't "Professional" drifters. So I'd say an amateurs move is alright. :odd: :odd:
 
how does using the e-brake make u an amateur... frankly i think its easier to drift w/o using the e-brake and it takes more skill to use the ebrake.

and i've watched alotta drift vids and i see that alotta pros use the e-brake to get a better angle.
 
thats what i use it for too, angles and understeer. Plus if u think about it, using the ebrake in real life is probably a lil harder cause its 1 more thing that the driver has to think about while conducting the drift
 
alotta ppl use it, Thio does 4 his skyline, cuz i mean who could seriously drift a skyline w/o using ebrake and gettin a good angle, all high HP cars dont necessarily need but should get a tap of the ebrake to get into teh drift better in my opinion, every other car ive used is great w/o it
 
Originally posted by JDM-AE86
alotta ppl use it, Thio does 4 his skyline, cuz i mean who could seriously drift a skyline w/o using ebrake and gettin a good angle, all high HP cars dont necessarily need but should get a tap of the ebrake to get into teh drift better in my opinion, every other car ive used is great w/o it
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If you watched CudaMan's video clearly in WEEK 1, he uses the ebrake to hold the drift longer for two turns. Is that a sign of amateurity?

Anyways, just to back up JDM,

Using the Emergency Brake is only useful when you are in a situation where the car is losing it's understeer. Most of the time, the engine's power on a FR platform can just overpower the rear, losing traction, but only when that option is not available, then you can tap the Emergency Brake.

That's my principle on that.

Just for the record JDM, I used it once in my video and never again :p Guess where hehe :D
 
drift with ebrake is nicezzz if u know ho to control it ...
i used it before but now nomore just feint & sometimed i used it a little bit...;) for 4wd ez but fr its nightmare ....hmmmm;)
 
The E Brake extends your drift, and focusing on only one technique while drifting is not a sighn of a true drifter, hardly a amature technique
 

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