drifting with awd

[kingkn8]

I drift a lot better with an awd cars, mainly the the HPA Stage II Golf. Just wondering if this is common and why i drift much easier and better with and awd as apossed to a RWD

 

[UNNBEATABLE]

AWD is easier to drift on GT4 beacause you have 4 wheels spinning which prevents you from losin control.

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

I didn't know the HPA Golf was AWD? Goddamn, i'll have to go check that out.

 

[Funkshen]

welcome to GTP kingkn8, first of all be sure to check around the forum before posting random threads.

Im not sure why you drift better with AWD, it probably has something to do with better handling, faster movement and no countersteer, and a basically easier calibiration opposed to the FR drivetrain (not all would agree with me on that one), i personally enjoy driving FR more, more of a challenge in my book. Hope to see you around King

Swift....

 

[R_Riders]

I think it all dives down to what one wants. I'm used to drifting RWD, and given the short time (1 week) I was allowed to play GT4 a few weeks back, I didn't get to do too much actuall drifting. Just concentraiting on grip driving.

For what time I have been able to drft, I've found I'm best drifting with FR (such as the Ginetta G4...I'm sure I miss-spelled that, also the Corvette Z06 and M3 E46), MR (the Hommell Berlinette R/S coupe has been a suprise to me... I never heard of it and from what time I was able to drive it, it's a car I found fun to drive with ...) and I was able to get by a chance of fluke a 'zero-counter' (well the wheel registered on replay almost no countersteering, very mild counter at best...didn't realize it till I saw the replay...) on Tusukaba (sorry for miss-spelling that too) on the very last corner with an R33 GTR, which is AWD.

In a sense, AWD's are easier, but on a fundamental level far as I know. To learn how to drift a 4WD could be either very easy or terrifing depending on just how you're trained, driving technique wise.

I'm used to countersteering and throttle control to some extent, it's difficult for me to turn off that impusle to countersteer and to let off or feather the throttle thru drifting as opposed to holding on full throttle and them some. A guy like Swift or DR would be able to explain it better.

For me, though FR is harder on paper, for me it's easier, maybe on the fact I know how to do it more so than AWD.

Though it's also to personal opinion and prefrence and whatnot. It's easier in essence to use a 4WD but 4WD has it's limits in it's own right. I've found for me at the least, I don't feel as 'free' or lose as you would in an RWD, it must have to do with the behavior of them becuase the spinning front tires help in taking care of the necessary of 'countersteering' as you would in an RWD car. I feel I have to be 'perfect' with planing a drift more so in a 4WD than an FR becuase I have to blance under and oversteering with such cars. But then agian I'm not used still to GT4 (I doubt even for grip driving a 2:30: something on Suzuka full with a Z06 Crovette on comfort tires would register as too quick either...)... but that's my view anywho.

Not sure what else to say.

Till later.

 

[194GVan]

AWD and FR require different driving techniques, as far as which is easier, it all boils down to...

...personal opinion and prefrence and whatnot.

I started learning with FR drivetrains, and when I tried to make the switch to AWD it was like learning all over again. I found I had to train myself to turn in alot earlier when drifting AWD cars, but it was much easier to hold higher angle drifts.

 

[Gabkicks]

Not all awd cars require the same techniques either.


the R33 and r34 (maybe r32?) built by taking a rwd design and making it awd. So drifting them is very similar to your average rwd car. But the early Model Subarus and Evo's were fwd turned awd, so the cars tended to understeer unless you really committed to a turn from a high angle dive in at the apex. RWD cars tend to have obtuse angles of attack while FWD tend to be sharper.


There's nothing to it once you realize that you just have to dive into the turn like a maniac compared to drifting a rwd car. 👍

 

[123abc]

I tried drifting a Mines Lancer, and did terrible. lol



Like R_Riders said, its all about driver preference.

 

[nk4e]

Its not going to be worth it in the end, trust me man. Learn Fr first and then go to AWD; then you will understand.

 

[KaffeinE 86]

With the Nismo Skyline (the cool red one) it's easy to drift with the right suspension and liberal use of the e-brake.

 

[Gabkicks]

meh.. the E-break is usless in my opinion... I never use it. 👎 GT4;'s not realistic enough to require ebreak usage.

 

[nk4e]

meh.. the E-break is usless in my opinion... I never use it. 👎 GT4;'s not realistic enough to require ebreak usage.

Its like a last resort for me.

 

[Gabkicks]

lol, another reason i dont use it is because its kinda hard to press the circle button on the DFP if you are doing crazy steering work .

I do use the handbreak once in a while in LFS. but in gt4 it just makes the drift slower with my techniques.

 

[Glancn]

I tried drifting my R33 GTR N1 last night. Using road/road tyres I set it up quite similar to most my FR settings. The only thing that I did do was to have 0.8 camber in the rear, pretty much tyring to promote as much oversteer.

Actual drifting, I took very wide/high entries, and if your AWD has enough power, try use the hand brake at high entry speed and turn the car so that you create a ridiculous angle facing the nose towards the inside of the bend, then pretty much adjust the steering, most times neutral until you need to correct your line, power out hard. Not full on drifting, more like sliding but you can get some pretty crazy angles!

My gtr has around 700hp with 30/70 power distr

 

[KaffeinE 86]

I have the e-brake on R1 and NOS on circle. I use e-brake more often.

 

[Gabkicks]

didnt Kazama's Kei Office S15 use NOS? I was actually playing around using Nitrous to manipulate the drift and get more wheelspin. and it works well. 👍 Not neccessary, but something new

 

[Ryen49]

didnt Kazama's Kei Office S15 use NOS? I was actually playing around using Nitrous to manipulate the drift and get more wheelspin. and it works well. 👍 Not neccessary, but something new

Yeah it did have"nitrous"....

 

[Drifter5]

i wonder why some people are not open to new ideas in drifting?

 

[Sloth]

New ideas in drifting..
Right.


For those finding that traditional 4WD production cars understeer too much on accel, try using the Audi S3. It has a bit more weight and is set up more like an R34 without the torque distribution system.

It's a pretty neat car actually.

Surprised I never noticed it before.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

New ideas in drifting..
Right.


For those finding that traditional 4WD production cars understeer too much on accel, try using the Audi S3. It has a bit more weight and is set up more like an R34 without the torque distribution system.

It's a pretty neat car actually.

Surprised I never noticed it before.

I always used a method, to start out in lower than +/- 5000RPM and accelerated to above +/- 5000RPM it always oversteers then, with my settings and cars offcourse. Also I just CAN NOT use the NOS or E brake while drifting, it's just too weard and you get weard responses from the car, I don't have any control then.

And well, yes AWD drifts better only because of no-countersteer and higher angles, and longer duration. That's really all, and why AWD is harder than FR for some: they're just not used to it, and I guess it can also be because they started from FR to trying AWD instead of what I did: AWD to FR. But FR is harder for me now, so start out with what you want to learn best, I think you have the best chance then:tup: