Driving In The USA (specifically California and Nevada)

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If you don't, it's usually the first thing they ask you to do. It means you're both stood safely at the roadside, rather than have the policeman standing in the middle of the road. It also reduces the risk of the driver taking off at any time, although I assume cops in the US have ways of dealing with this (taking the keys would be my guess :confused:). Leaning slightly off topic, why would an American cop would want you to stay in the car?
Right, like Danoff said cops approach you from behind and usually address you from an awkward position, like over your shoulder so it's difficult or impossible for the person to attack them. On top of that, at night they'll shine their spotlight in your mirrors so you can't see them walking up to you at all.

Also, the way cops can be sure you won't leave is because they have a gun on their side :lol: It becomes a trust thing at that point. He trusts you won't leave or try anything crazy, and you trust that he won't shoot you.
 
Man, there's heaps of great advice in this thread, wish I was going.

I loved driving in the U.S., when I was there on my various trips (business & pleasure), well except for that econobox Subaru Impreza my Dad and I had to fire @ O'Hare, Chicago.

Hopefully you're hiring something fun to drive like a 2010 Mustang from Hertz / Avis.
 
Thanks for the advice people, the information posted so far has been duly noted.

One thing that I never really thought about was being pulled over and I'm glad Roo mentioned it. It must be something that a lot of tourists get wrong and end up being punished for it.

I've just purchased the US sat nav pack for my Garmin and I have printed off route maps just in case the sat nav decides to pack up or start taking me down crazy routes.
 
Thanks for the advice people, the information posted so far has been duly noted.

One thing that I never really thought about was being pulled over and I'm glad Roo mentioned it. It must be something that a lot of tourists get wrong and end up being punished for it.

I've just purchased the US sat nav pack for my Garmin and I have printed off route maps just in case the sat nav decides to pack up or start taking me down crazy routes.

~Language warning and certain comments about GPS around 2:05~
 
As an aside, I think it's only men who tend to get out of the car when pulled in the UK. I've been pulled three times now and have never got out of the car.

Anyway Mark, don't worry too much. Just remember to drive on the "wrong" side of the road and you'll be fine. I discovered that because I was on the "wrong" side of the car, then driving on the "wrong" side of the road was much easier than I anticipated!

My baptism of fire came when we visited Iceland. The first time I'd ever driven a LHD car, on the RHS of the road...it was dark and raining. Iceland doesn't have cats eyes or reflective markings...the worst thing was getting my head around navigating roundabouts!! At least in the US they don't have those, small mercies, eh :P
 
As an aside, I think it's only men who tend to get out of the car when pulled in the UK. I've been pulled three times now and have never got out of the car.

Anyway Mark, don't worry too much. Just remember to drive on the "wrong" side of the road and you'll be fine. I discovered that because I was on the "wrong" side of the car, then driving on the "wrong" side of the road was much easier than I anticipated!

My baptism of fire came when we visited Iceland. The first time I'd ever driven a LHD car, on the RHS of the road...it was dark and raining. Iceland doesn't have cats eyes or reflective markings...the worst thing was getting my head around navigating roundabouts!! At least in the US they don't have those, small mercies, eh :P
We've had those here for a few years now, though I always thought we got them from the UK hmm.... I always check for other cars then blast through them once or twice.

Something else I have found that works when you get pulled over is to take the keys out of the ignition and set them on the top of the dashboard behind the steering wheel. And keep your hands at 10 and 2, lets the cop know you mean no funny business. All of my tickets have been knocked down in speed or just a warning and I was on my way in less than five minutes.
 
In California (and no other state) they are allowed to do it everywhere.
I hate it in California, and it's 100 times worse in Sao Paulo. I'm surprised I did not see anyone die in the two weeks I was there.
the worst thing was getting my head around navigating roundabouts!! At least in the US they don't have those, small mercies, eh :P
We don't have big roundabouts here. There are many little 2-lane ones in and around the Olympia area. I use them as personal chicanes and skidpads.

Good advice in this thread 👍. My guess would be that the hardest part will be getting used to the "wrong" side of the road and the "wrong" side of the car. Los Angeles and Las Vegas probably aren't the best places to learn that, but hey, it's a rental car, so who cares? ;)
 
Ha, I learned in the US in a Toyota Sienna driving from SF airport, round the city on the freeway and to a suburb. This was a Sienna full of peoples, mainly sleeping! At least I was able to follow Smallhorses (he doesn't hang about you know :lol: )
 
Ha, I learned in the US in a Toyota Sienna driving from SF airport, round the city on the freeway and to a suburb. This was a Sienna full of peoples, mainly sleeping! At least I was able to follow Smallhorses (he doesn't hang about you know :lol: )
I hate going to the SFO ( San Fran Airport)....
 
Ha, I learned in the US in a Toyota Sienna driving from SF airport, round the city on the freeway and to a suburb. This was a Sienna full of peoples, mainly sleeping! At least I was able to follow Smallhorses (he doesn't hang about you know :lol: )

Hey, even in a borrowed Dodgy Caravan I can still mosh hard with Bay Area traffic! Especially when I've got my co-driver giving you the walkie-talkie tour as a you're driving along! :lol:

Mark, you shouldn't be too worried about anything really.
As a UK trained driver you've probably got about 50% more wits about you than most drivers on the roads here. (I say that loosely and I know that the vast majority of the US GTPlanet members don't fit into the stereotypical US driver category, so I'll thank you to recognise that I recognise you over the general populus and not get offended by this remark.)
You're going to get rented an Auto. Not because no-one thinks you can't drive a manual here, but because the rental companies here don't rent anything but Autos.
The way you've been taught to drive in the UK is more than enough to teach you to drive here, picture the UK, but with 50% less traffic, although 40% of that concentrated into 3 large areas, SF, LA & SD. The rest of it, and sparsely populated Nevada is easy pickings.
In general, the drivers here are much less inclined to signal when turning or changing lanes, and are more inclined to "lane-hog" on the freeways, which necessitates undertaking, which though technically illegal becomes a viable necessity if you're to get anywhere. (I hate to stereotype, but this'll generally come in the form of Lincoln Towncar, Ford Crown Vic, some sort of SUV or a beige Toyota. Why is it always beige?!!! :boggled:)
In CA the posted speedlimit is 65 - 70 mph, but shy of 85mph in all but the remotest spots you're unlikely to be noticed as everyone around you will be doing the same.
Check both mirrors and shoulder-check your blind spots on both sides before changing lanes, and be wary of traffic 2-lanes to your inside being about to make a lane change without signalling before you move. :rolleyes:
Beware of lane-splitting motorbikes, if you see a bike approaching fast in your mirrors, you should probably let it go. You aren't obliged to, but you should also reference a thread here within the Motorbike forum that addresses this issue.
Most importantly, and a great thing I've found when I used to frequently alternate between driving in LHD & RHD when I was returning to the UK, was to keep the steering wheel next to the centre line of the road (one-way streets excepted.) and this way you'd be guaranteed of success. Car parks are a nightmare as it's easy to forget this, so pay special attention when you're in them.
Now that I'm naturalised to LHD & US it's no big deal, but regardless of how long I've been out of UK, I always have no trouble slotting back into UK traffic and in general the UK drivers seem to be friendlier (apart from the odd road-rage arsehole) and more adept to signal, create gaps for merging traffic, and acknowledge a good deed.
In US, don't flash lights to let someone in, it's perceived as an aggressive move like beeping horn.
No-one waves when you do them a favour such as letting them into traffic, or waiting on the priority side of the road for them to pass. Don't expect it.
Here, and especially CA, you should drive with your mirrors, but drive aggressively, if you see a gap, go for it, if you try to leave a safe distance on the freeway someone will get in there, so be wary.
Nevada (with less than 10% of CA population) will be a little different as you'll be down on traffic volume, although Vegas (which is in Clark County, and therefore home to almost 50% of Nevada residents) is understandably a tad busier than most places in NV.
 
Thanks for all the posts, I've taken in everything that has been said and it's definitely going to help. I'm sure that after 15-20 mins of driving I'll be in the swing of things.

Now just looking forward to getting on that plane on Wednesday. I also phoned the rental company and they "think" I have a Chrysler Sebring. Don't know if that's a good thing but as long as it has 4 wheels and an engine I'll do fine. And maybe aircon would helpful.
 
Now just looking forward to getting on that plane on Wednesday. I also phoned the rental company and they "think" I have a Chrysler Sebring. Don't know if that's a good thing but as long as it has 4 wheels and an engine I'll do fine. And maybe aircon would helpful.

Well, it's a rental Chrysler, there is no guarantee those things will be there the whole time.:lol:
 
UK drivers seem to be friendlier (apart from the odd road-rage arsehole) and more adept to signal, create gaps for merging traffic, and acknowledge a good deed.
In US, don't flash lights to let someone in, it's perceived as an aggressive move like beeping horn.
No-one waves when you do them a favour such as letting them into traffic, or waiting on the priority side of the road for them to pass. Don't expect it.
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That's more of a regional thing around here sometimes. In Western PA, drivers are notorious for being pretty friendly, are in a bit less of a hurry, and usually have no problem letting somebody in. Also, a light flash is very common place to signal somebody to go ahead out here.

And we always wave when somebody lets us go.

I've never driven in California, so it's probably not the case there, just as it isn't in New York City, but generally outside of the huge cities drivers are pretty friendly out here.
 
Thanks for all the posts, I've taken in everything that has been said and it's definitely going to help. I'm sure that after 15-20 mins of driving I'll be in the swing of things.

Now just looking forward to getting on that plane on Wednesday. I also phoned the rental company and they "think" I have a Chrysler Sebring. Don't know if that's a good thing but as long as it has 4 wheels and an engine I'll do fine. And maybe aircon would helpful.

There are no rental cars in this country without air conditioning. And damn few private cars.
 
There are no rental cars in this country without air conditioning. And damn few private cars.

I thought as much. Looking at the temperatures in Nevada I'm going to need it.
 
I also phoned the rental company and they "think" I have a Chrysler Sebring.
Last time I went to rent a car, I "thought" I'd have a Ford Focus, and they gave me a Jeep :lol:. It all depends on what they have available the very second you walk up to the desk. I'm sure the rental lots at LAX have more than a couple of cars though :D.
 
Post #8, Sir Reading Skillz. :D

Might have been more for right on red rather than running red light, but it counts.
 
A note: Don't speed through or near any small towns you encounter. Small-town cops LOVE tourists, as they're usually in such a hurry the officers can give you a nice fine you'll have to mail to their little obscure 'burg. Out of state license plates are always a good target for them, even while Bubba whizzes by in his '79 K10 doing 90.

You'll find that tolerance for speeding diminishes the further into the country you go. In a rural place, 5 over is usually a safe bet, as the locals will usually be going a bit faster. I actually recommend making a goal of not being the fastest person on the road, and doing the speed limit when you're alone. Everything you can do to make yourself less of a target, you should.
 
Mark T, you're from England, is your driver's license valid in the US or you need an international driver's license? I'll travel to Nevada in august, and as my Nevada driver's license has expired long time ago, spanish police recommended me to use the international driver's license, although they also say that I shouldn't have problems with my spanish driver's license.
 
UK drivers licences are valid in the US.

I know this because I have a UK licence and have driven in the US :)
 
Oh, little pointer. When pulling into parking lots from roads, remember you're in a very softly-sprung car. You will bottom it if you're not massively careful - I bottomed the Sienna in town and then the Mustang in Mojave, both at no more than 10mph. I thought the first was just me not paying attention, though all the scrapes on that bit of sidewalk would indicate I'm not the first, but I was super-careful with the Mustang - I even said that I was going to go extremely slowly and not bottom it and still did anyway.

Then Venari bottomed it in Vegas. And he's a much better driver than I am.
 
I'll definitely bear that in mind, especially when I'm being chased across the Mojave desert by Buford T. Justice.

"I am in hot pursuit!"

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