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Ken Kutaragi, the creator of the playstation, has developed a copyright system that will keep games from being pirated.

taken from Game Informer Issue 153, Jan '06

"...Rumor has it the company has recently secured a patent for technology developed by Playstation creator Ken Kutaragi that would encrypt an authentication code upon the software. This could make the game playable only on the PS3 it was first played on..."

Right. First off is that actually physically possible? Unless the PS3 has some kind of program to edit the data written on the blue ray, then it seems impossible to alter data that has been recorded onto a disc. Secondly, what the hell will happen to Gamestop and EB Games? The reason they thrive so much is because of used game sales, so if this happens, we can't buy used games anymore? Best Buy will most likely get all of the business being that it is on top of the electronics store empire, or at least in my region. Now what happens when I want to take Fifa 20xx to my brothers house to play, now I need to bring my PS3 to his house? This this happens, which I find very hard to believe it will, I will most likely float over onto the Xbox360 bandwagon.
 
This has already been discussed, but you're right.
 
You silly kids and your gullable behavior! :P

As I've stated time and time again. This is only a patent. Why do companies do this? Because in the future, if someone wishes to use this technology, they pay sony, hence, the use of a patent.

Sony has no plans of doing this, let it die, and rest in peace.
 
Hmmm... and what does this do for players who break a PS3? Do we take all our CDs in and ask for an exchange with our new PS3?

Next thing you know we'll have to register online... or better yet, register online every single time we boot the game (thanks a lot, Valve... :rolleyes: )

I don't think this is seriously going to happen... I;m sure the amount of flak Sony got over their last copy protection experiment still leaves a bitter taste in their mouths.
 
niky
Hmmm... and what does this do for players who break a PS3? Do we take all our CDs in and ask for an exchange with our new PS3?

Next thing you know we'll have to register online... or better yet, register online every single time we boot the game (thanks a lot, Valve... :rolleyes: )

I don't think this is seriously going to happen... I;m sure the amount of flak Sony got over their last copy protection experiment still leaves a bitter taste in their mouths.
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hahaha nice. Yeah as I said i highly doubt it, and if they do, Sony can count on me selling all my sony equipment and never buying anything from them again...brand biased bastids.
 
I remember when they were on about creating demo discs that would only work for a short period, that was even more ridiculous. Its not just MS that are 'evil' :grumpy:
 
Maybe they can lower the prices of the games instead of developing these ridiculous methods that only really makes things worse for the people who buy them honestly.'


I hate this.
 
Um, couldn't they just use a CD Key? Flipping brilliant. This has to be nonsense.
 
It just one of these things that companies do mostly scare piracy away... it would be a total illogical to implement a one system only game disk system as people use other peoples machines all the time! Its very unlikely to happen!
 
I don't think Sony would ever do this, at least not for years. They would lose more money from this than piracy.
 
Sony wont impilement this for two reasons, 1. the blueray player inside the PS3 would have to be able to burn to a disk and this would make the PS3 very expensive & 2. they have already had about as much bad pulicity as any company can take with thier DRM on Audio cd's.
 
The story isn't fake, Sony do now own that patent, it doesn't mean they will use it, at least not for the PS3. It wouldn't make any sense, they'll have it with something else in mind, remeber Sony and technology doesn't always have to have something to do with SCE. The people that have linked it to the PS3 are media stirrer's.
 
C&VG.com
SONY RAILS AGAINST PRE-OWNED GAMES

Sony chief claims the second hand games market harms development and drives prices down

16:54 Sony has added its voice to a growing number of publishers and developers who are questioning the harm caused to the industry by the pre-owned games market.

Speaking to respected trade publication MCV, SCE UK's commercial director Kevin Jowett
said that the pre-owned games are damaging full priced titles: "The blame for heavy discounting of current releases can be laid at the door of the pre-owned market."

Jowett believes that the thriving second hand market, which has become an increasingly important component of retail, has forced prices down. "When consumers see pre-owned titles for 10 or 15, this fosters the perception that this is the realistic price for all games, and the new release roster looks unrealistically priced," he said.

However, the Sony boss went on to add that, although this was damaging, it wouldn't affect Sony's budget Platinum range: "Platinum offers gamers a cheaper way to buy games with a proven heritage. A Platinum release is an assured-quality title, whereas a discounted release may not meet these same exacting standards."

Jowett's comments certainly echo some developers' legitimate concerns. Epic's very own Mark Rein undertook a massive and highly entertaining rant at last year's Edinburgh Games Festival in which he blamed developers' financial woes on the second hand market.

This latest fusillade from one of the industry giants is particularly interesting in light of recent speculation that the PlayStation 3 won't play second hand games and that any title you buy, will have to be an original and fully licensed copy.

Does the industry have a valid point? On the one hand, it's easy to see why publishers and devs despise the second hand market - they only get to sell their game once, don't see any profit from subsequent second-hand sales and are expected to continue to offer support on second hand products. Jowett may have also a valid point when he says the second hand market is driving price expectations - but we're less convinced of that as an argument.

Few would argue that the majority of games are too expensive, no-one minds paying top dollar for a Half-Life, Halo or GTA, but is Mediocre FPS 8, Average Racer II or By The Numbers RTS 4 really worth 45 GBP? There's also the question of ownership. Once you buy game code you might think of it as your own personal property, which you're able to re-sell or dispose of as you see fit. However, it may surprise you to learn that most of the time you actually just buy a license to use the code, rather than really owning it in your own right.

John Houlihan
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seems as its not only Big S who is miffed at the SH market, its interesting what is said by the game developers, but they should take a leaf out of the Music industry and lower the prices of games down to at least £25 - £30 instead of £35 - £40 :(
 
No, they don't. How the hell did you arrive at that? Blockbuster makes money off of the games blockbuster rents out. Sony only makes money once off of those games that blockbuster buys.
 
I hate to say this, as a consumer that has to make my pennies go as far as they can, but PS3 development is going to be expensive for a while. Which means that games may well be $49.95 to $69.95 in the U.S., and a little higher in parts of Europe. I'd hope that when the console gets good and established within six months that prices drop.

I have to give props to Sega which has an attractive price on most of their games. I bought NHL2K5 for $20 at release! But whatever the prices of the first series of PS3 games are, I doubt we'll be thrilled at what they cost.

To make matters more irritating, Sony might offer the Premium PS3 with a hard drive, one controller and nothing else for $399. Bah.

As for the used game market, I seriously doubt Sony wants a stream of rioters at their headquarters, but they are a megacorporation, and they don't really care about us, just our wallets. :indiff:
 
Omnis
No, they don't. How the hell did you arrive at that? Blockbuster makes money off of the games blockbuster rents out. Sony only makes money once off of those games that blockbuster buys.
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But it'll cost Blockbuster more to buy it so that they can rent it out.

When I worked in a library, hiring out video films, it cost us about £90 to buy a video that was £20 in the shops.
 
I doubt that Sony will use this technology in PS3, but if they do, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot in a console war. I'd like to think Sony knows better.

daan
But it'll cost Blockbuster more to buy it so that they can rent it out.

When I worked in a library, hiring out video films, it cost us about £90 to buy a video that was £20 in the shops.
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Exactly.
 
a6m5
I doubt that Sony will use this technology in PS3, but if they do, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot in a console war. I'd like to think Sony knows better.
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Mmmhmm. With fierce competition, you tend to want to keep your fanboys. Not piss them off and send them over to the other company.
 
Shannon
Mmmhmm. With fierce competition, you tend to want to keep your fanboys. Not piss them off and send them over to the other company.
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You bet. As cheap as I am :D, I'd probably pass on the PS3 if they seriously want all customers to pay $50 - $60(U.S.), except on Greatest Hits........ then again, it does play Blu-ray Discs. I forgot about that. :sly: I am a huge movie buff, so I do want Blu-ray.
 

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