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As might know or don't know,that most german cars like BMW ,Merc,Audi ,VW for the exception of Porchse ,are restricted to 155MPH or 250 KMPH ,in real world you would need to chip the car to get derestricted .
the Q is do you think cars like M3,AMG ,and S6 ..ect would be restricted in the game or that you have to chip them or do some thing to delimit them :)
 
well, Gt4 is supposed to be realistic..........so yeah, these cars will propably be speedlimited. And don't forget these British Jags, they're also speedlimited by an electronic device.
 
Just something else to spend my GT4 $$$ on... kewl I was getting worried I would just keep accumulating it...
 
Yeps, I guess they'll be limited, but i'm quite sure you will be able to buy an upgrade (i mean, with gran turismo credits, inside the game) in the parts shop to override this limitation.
 
It would actually be good if they did do that. Yeah. Don't forget that you can by chips anyway. So nah. It shouldn't be a problem. Just when the cars are fully stock, they'd be like that.
 
i dont think gran turismo will have speed limit on those cars, unless it happens in this GT4 game, since i didn't see they have on the previous.

for ref: Japanese cars also has that, and that's 180km/h

but it's really neat if GT4 can add that!!
 
we mean....."when such cars are stock", just take a look at the audi's in GT3.....
otherwise it wouldn't be realistic...................you'll have to tune them to make them go faster, just like every car in the GT-series.
 
Really? I am sorry, but when i am playing GT4P now, I can push those Evolution or GTR above 180km/h, that's why i wonder if GT will have this.

Sorry, i haven't drive a 'stock' audi in GT3
Let me take a look tonight
 
I think it would be cool if we got pitlane speed limits, and you could buy pitlane speed-limiters for your car (alternatively manual control of speed). Would add to the realism. Also they could come in handy in high powered cars, you could be really smooth in slow corners.
 
Nope... I can prove it from GT4:P... The M5 isn't limited and neither is the AMG55...

Also neither is the Cappuccino. (Limited at 90MP/H)

C.
 
yeti
Nope... I can prove it from GT4:P... The M5 isn't limited and neither is the AMG55...

Also neither is the Cappuccino. (Limited at 90MP/H)

C.
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True, but remember it's only arcade mode and lessons in Prologue so there's no tuning option.

If limiters are include in GT4 I doubt that they will be in arcade mode.
 
if you guys watch the bmw 1 series demo around the nurburgring on this website, the car is limited to 180kmh down the straights.
I guess u'd have to get the "racing cpu" like before to remove it

ARtz
 
well, even with my "time-limited" version of the BMW demo....i still managed to do a 213Km/h with the BMW 120d on the longest straight i encounterd.....so that kind of limitation isn't included!


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I think it would be cool if we got pitlane speed limits, and you could buy pitlane speed-limiters for your car (alternatively manual control of speed). Would add to the realism. Also they could come in handy in high powered cars, you could be really smooth in slow corners.
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GT, GT2 and GT3 all had pit lane speed limits, with all cars limited to this speed!

Its major problem was that the car slowed to this speed very quickly, meaning you could enter the pit lane at silly speeds and the car would take car of the rest for you, some of the deceleration you can get in the game from this would turn a RL driver to cheesecake.

Manually attivated pit-lane speed limiters is what we need, with penalties for exceeding the limit, but this has already been discussed on another thread.
 
On the original subject of electronically limited top speeds for production road cars, for the vast majority of these cars you do not need to replace the ECU, just re-programme it.

Most of these limits are set through a software lock in the ECU, remove the lock and away you go, the majority of main dealers can do this with manufacturer supplied diagnostic equipment that 'speaks' to the cars ECU. Takes about five minutes and does not require the removal of a single part on the car, just plug in the laptop and within five to ten minutes you are done.

ECU chips are generally only changed if a major re-map is required as it is usually quicker that re-maping the original ECU or it may be a case that the ECU can't be remaped.
 
Scaff
On the original subject of electronically limited top speeds for production road cars, for the vast majority of these cars you do not need to replace the ECU, just re-programme it.

Most of these limits are set through a software lock in the ECU, remove the lock and away you go, the majority of main dealers can do this with manufacturer supplied diagnostic equipment that 'speaks' to the cars ECU. Takes about five minutes and does not require the removal of a single part on the car, just plug in the laptop and within five to ten minutes you are done.

ECU chips are generally only changed if a major re-map is required as it is usually quicker that re-maping the original ECU or it may be a case that the ECU can't be remaped.
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Talking cars? Kind of like KITT then...

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I don't think Japanese cars are limited. I know they give 'limited' BHP figures, but I can't remember the cap they give and are only used to conform with a gentlemens agreement.
I think some cars are restricted due to 'gentlemens agreements' while others are limited because of tire wear or suspension and sometimes aerodynamics.
 
ExigeExcel
I don't think Japanese cars are limited. I know they give 'limited' BHP figures, but I can't remember the cap they give and are only used to conform with a gentlemens agreement.
I think some cars are restricted due to 'gentlemens agreements' while others are limited because of tire wear or suspension and sometimes aerodynamics.
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A lot of British cars (Vauxhall, Rover) output is limited due to their crapness...
 
A lot of British cars (Vauxhall, Rover) output is limited due to their crapness...
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And the fact aerodynamically they aren't designed for high speed and would most likely 'fly' off the road.
Also few people would put a decent set of tires on these models as they would see little improvement.
 
Scaff
On the original subject of electronically limited top speeds for production road cars, for the vast majority of these cars you do not need to replace the ECU, just re-programme it.
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If I want to disable the speed limiter on my Skyline, I just have to snip wire no.53 from my ECU. (although the HICAS (4WS) gets stuck in diagnostic mode over 10kph)
 
The BMW M3 CSL was sold with a 155mph limit but if you could show to BMW that you have possesed or still posses a race licence they would up the limit to 180mph 👍 :)
 
My car was limited to 155mph before I "chipped it". I'd like to see GT4 copy this as well, but for some reason I just don't see them bothering. :guilty:
 
I can just imagine a fully stock race at the high speed ring. Everyone going all out then boom everyone stops accelerating at exactly at 155mph. Doors slamming against eachother. Nascar like drafting. That could be alright.
 
ExigeExcel
I don't think Japanese cars are limited. I know they give 'limited' BHP figures, but I can't remember the cap they give and are only used to conform with a gentlemens agreement.
I think some cars are restricted due to 'gentlemens agreements' while others are limited because of tire wear or suspension and sometimes aerodynamics.
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Many Japanese cars have speed governors on them in Japan, but their US version does not.

example: The Japan version of a 4th generation prelude is governed to 115mph, but the US version will go right up to redline in 5th gear at 140mph.

The "gentlemen's agreement" you speak of is a maximum claimed horsepower limit in the Japanese market, to prevent HP wars (kind of like whats going on between Mercedes & BMW). This limit is 276hp, which I think is about 265-270ps. The cars frequently have more then this, but thats all they 'claim' them to have in Japan, even though the exact same car sold in another country will claim 300 or more.
 
Many muscle cars also did this, only for insurance reasons. The manufacturors claimed less HP to make the car more affordable to keep on the road.
 
But it would be nice if you bought an M3 and then without modifing it u go into a race then u discover that is limted ,and u don't have any money to mod it ,and other cars witout the limit would catch up...ect would be fun.

and about the one series its not limted as it can only get up tp 215+kmph ,the only cars that can be limited are the ones that could reach to 250 .
 
We've never seen a limit before, I don't think we'll see one now. It would pretty much defeat the purpose of this being a RACING game.. if you ever entered a car in a race, the first thing to go would be the restrictor.

The only speed thing I'm aware of in Japan (from personal experience) was a little bell that started dinging when we went over 100kph. Which may not seem like much, but imagine doing it on a road as narrow as Costa di Amalfi, downhill (with jumps), in the middle of the night. And in real-life... in a little tiny red car that was never meant to go that fast.
 
Greyout
Many Japanese cars have speed governors on them in Japan, but their US version does not.

example: The Japan version of a 4th generation prelude is governed to 115mph, but the US version will go right up to redline in 5th gear at 140mph.

The "gentlemen's agreement" you speak of is a maximum claimed horsepower limit in the Japanese market, to prevent HP wars (kind of like whats going on between Mercedes & BMW). This limit is 276hp, which I think is about 265-270ps. The cars frequently have more then this, but thats all they 'claim' them to have in Japan, even though the exact same car sold in another country will claim 300 or more.
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I love the war going on between Mercedes and BMW. God Bless 612bhp and 1200Nm torque @ 2000rpm (that's limited to 1000Nm!!) :drool:
 

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