endurance races

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hey from what i've read on here it seems the cars you run against in the enduroes change by what you enter. i was just wondering if this was true. hanxs guys
 
I'm not sure if that's strictly true, or not, but here's my reasoning, and someone'll be sure to correct me if I'm wrong. (*shouts*Famine!!!!)

Example:- Entering Rome 2hr Enduro in a fully modded Mini Cooper. I know it'll get thrashed by the Clio Sport V6 and Griffith 500, but it takes 25 reloads to get a "random" field, without either of these cars in, which is then possible to beat in the Mini.
However, entering the same race again in an Alfa 156, tuned enough to keep up with the Clio & Griffith, the first field I get has neither of these opponents, and the race is a solitary 2hr affair with no real "racing" involved.

It applies to Cote D'azur, for example, as well, if you exit and enter the race (or reload if you don't want to waste days!) numerous times, you can come up with a field without 787B and R390 LM racecars. Its then possible to win the enduro in one of the many Rally cars, or a non-race car with moderate tuning.

So many of the races are "one-horse" races, due to the AI selection, that its often more rewarding to select a field where the obvious faster entrant is not present.
Trial Mountain 2hr is a prime example of this. The NSX, when its present, is head & shoulders above the rest of the other entrants that make up the field. This means you either need to pick a car which will run close to the NSX, and blow away the rest of the field, or you enter in something more competetive and hope the NSX is a no-show, which ensures a more eventful and satisfiying race. The Supra RZ and RX-7 RS make great opponents and generally run close together.

It just depends what you're after, if you're just after the gold in the race, and don't care what you win, or about collecting all the cars in the game, then make an informed decision based on watching the race preview, as to what the field will be, and go for the win in something that's guaranteed to beat the opposition.

If, however, you enjoy close racing, and like me, are a little masochistic :dopey: , and enjoy running the enduros just to see how close the margin of victory (or loss!) can get, by running in cars that no-one would really think stand a chance of winning, then there's much more fun and challenges in doing it, that'll make a 2hr enduro seem far from dull. :)

Welcome to the GTPlanet Miniklobb enjoy your time here. 👍

P.S. if you need some ideas for entries for really close races check out the GT3 Write-ups section, there's reports from many of the drivers on GTPlanet about some of the best races out there. :cheers:
 
Only the Arcade Mode AI cars change depending on what you enter with and what level of difficulty you choose.

All Simulation mode races have a set field of opponents (usually about nine) from which five are chosen.
 
Smallhorses
Example:- Entering Rome 2hr Enduro in a fully modded Mini Cooper. I know it'll get thrashed by the Clio Sport V6 and Griffith 500, but it takes 25 reloads to get a "random" field, without either of these cars in, which is then possible to beat in the Mini.

That'd seriously destroy your race-to-win ratio though.
 
Yes, if you only drive for that ...

I can understand him. At my first time in GT3 I took all the time and didn't care about stats or anything. Second time around I tried my best not to waste any races.

It's all about fun to race.
 
vipersan
Yes, if you only drive for that ...

I can understand him. At my first time in GT3 I took all the time and didn't care about stats or anything. Second time around I tried my best not to waste any races.

It's all about fun to race.

True, true.

I'm not the world's best driver, though I admit it myself. I like having a good race-to-win ration though. At the moment mine's sitting on 95, I stuffed around too many times doing the famous skip-last-race-and-keep-rebooting-the-PS2-until-you-get-the-prizecar-you-want trick.
 
I don't care about my win ratio, it's only like 70% or something. But I reckon I'm better than most people who have completed the game with a 100% win ratio. I've spent my time learning to 4 wheel drift, it's more rewarding (in terms of enjoyment and performance) than mindlessly winning races against substandard AI. I'm hoping maybe GT4 will change that if the AI is better.
 
F310B
I don't care about my win ratio, it's only like 70% or something. But I reckon I'm better than most people who have completed the game with a 100% win ratio. I've spent my time learning to 4 wheel drift, it's more rewarding (in terms of enjoyment and performance) than mindlessly winning races against substandard AI. I'm hoping maybe GT4 will change that if the AI is better.

You'll be hoping till the cows come home. :p

The win ratio is sorta not worth it, the AI well and truly suck. And I though I was good for a while there.
 
Stinky Chicken
You'll be hoping till the cows come home. :p

The win ratio is sorta not work it, the AI well and truly suck. And I though I was good for a while there.

What????
 
I made a slight mistake there - I typed work, instead of worth - but apart from that, I thought my post was pretty easy to understand...

Say it slow, pronounce all the syllabals loudly and clearly, clap your hands to them if you need to. It might work but hey, but I won't get my hopes up.
 
Stinky Chicken
True, true.

I'm not the world's best driver, though I admit it myself. I like having a good race-to-win ration though. At the moment mine's sitting on 95, I stuffed around too many times doing the famous skip-last-race-and-keep-rebooting-the-PS2-until-you-get-the-prizecar-you-want trick.

You do know that you don't have to reboot the PS2 to do this don't you?
Exit the game without saving, then go to Load Game on the Main GT3 menu, and reload the file. Its much quicker. This is why its called Save/Reload trick.

Knew I could count on Famine to chip in with his thoughts, its like he's got a radar for any posts with his name in!!!
 
...or he just reads all of them :rolleyes:
 
No, it's the radar. :D
 
Stinky Chicken
I'm not the world's best driver, though I admit it myself. I like having a good race-to-win ration though. At the moment mine's sitting on 95, I stuffed around too many times doing the famous skip-last-race-and-keep-rebooting-the-PS2-until-you-get-the-prizecar-you-want trick.

Heh, yeah exactly. Only mine is at 94% ... :). i did the 2 mem card trick, where I bought all the winning cars, that cannot be bought in Car Dealer.
 
Since we are talking about AI selection in enduros, I'm going to contribute my section:

Super Speedway Endurance (PAL):
Combination 1- Tom's X540 Chaser, Nismo LM, RUF RGT, RUF CTR2, Mugen S2000 and whatever car you are in.
Combination 2-Nismo GT-R R-tune, Spoon S2000, RUF CTR2, Motorsport Elise, Mine's Evolution and whatever car you are in.

If you have any discrepancies feel welcome to notify me.
 
Superspeed3000
Since we are talking about AI selection in enduros, I'm going to contribute my section:

Super Speedway Endurance (PAL):
Combination 1- Tom's X540 Chaser, Nismo LM, RUF RGT, RUF CTR2, Mugen S2000 and whatever car you are in.
Combination 2-Nismo GT-R R-tune, Spoon S2000, RUF CTR2, Motorsport Elise, Mine's Evolution and whatever car you are in.

If you have any discrepancies feel welcome to notify me.

There is another combination which includes the Mine's Skyline too.
I've raced against it in a Mini and was only beaten by about 17s over 100 laps!
 
My luck is such that when I race a "competitive car" (one that sucks in comparison to the rest of the AI field), I get the NSX or other "ace" driver in the field. Problem is I get cocky sometimes and think I can beat him. On the shorter races, no. On the longer races, easily. Then again, I almost exclusively use super-slick tires. But in theory, that ought to mean that I have slower lap times to counteract the longer tire life.

On average, it takes 20 seconds to get in the pits, stop, leave the pits and make it to the first corner or get up to the speed you should be at. Usually. Some courrse have longer pit areas and whatnot so it changes. But on average, I lose 20 seconds at a stop and my lap times are about 2 seconds slower with super-slicks than with mediums which adds up in endurance races. Yesterday I raced at Monaco/Cote d'Azur this way against the R390 Race with my beloved RX-7. At first I had a hard time passing the R390 and it qualified over one second faster than me so I thought I'd be close at the end. Afraid not; after lap five I passed and lost him by three seconds. He kept gaining a second than losing it so I thought he'd stay close. By lap ten he was twenty seconds back and we BOTH pit every 13 laps.
 
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