Everything GTPDC/GTPC: Judging, Rules, Directions and Scoring

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GTP members, please keel this thread on-topic. Thank you :)

Hello and welcome to the GTPlanet Drift Competitons (GTPDC) and GTPlanet Challenges (GTP Challenges) Thread. In this thread, the rules, directions, what it takes to be a judge and how the scoring works will be covered in this thread.

GTPDCs and GTPCs offer an environment to drifters who would like to compete against one another in two separate events.

The GTPDCs are like the D1GP, where drifters can compete on a course and battle it out. Each competitor will submit their entry to the head judge and the judges will evaluate them. It is very fun, and whoever wins will win the bragging rights around the forum :P

The GTPCs are like the battles seen in Initial D. One drifter can challenge another drifter on a course, and sometimes with certain limitations to tires, horsepower, drivetrain, etc. Teams in the forum can also duke it out to see who is better than the other! Like the GTPDCs, the winner gets the bragging rights around the forum.

These competitions will be incorporated into the new Gran Turismo 4 game, so there can be actual battles on courses! See how good you are amongst other drifters in the forum and meet new people! Do not worry if you think you are bad, because the drifting community is there to help you improve your skills as a drifter.

Go ahead and sign up to be in the next GTPDC! The next one will start soon, so drift your way there ;)
 
RULES AND DIRECTIONS

-RULES- *Statements mentioned below apply to the GTPDC and the GTP Challenges*
  • Entries must include these items in the replay: Speedometer, Lap Time and Steering Wheel. Entries that do not include these items will be disqualified from the competition/challenge.
  • The entry must NOT contain the name of the competitor. If the entry does include the name of the competitor, then the entry is disqualified.
  • An unedited replay of either a full lap or a particular set of corners which the competition/challenge is to take place must be submitted.
  • The competitor must make sure that they will have enough time to obtain an unedited replay to turn in as their entry before the due date. If the due date has passed and the competitor has not turned in their entry, then they are disqualified from the competition/challenge.
  • It is suggested that the entries must be kept around a file size of 10 to 15 megabytes to keep the file easily downloadable for the judges and for those who have a narrowband internet connection.
-[GTPDC]-

->Directions<-
  1. Upon entering a GTPDC, the competitor must provide what car they will be using and what division they will compete in to the Coordinator of the WEEK. They must concur to the requirements mentioned in each division before entering.
  2. Once the competitor has submitted their entry to the Coordinator, they must make a video file of their replay on their computer. For more information, please go to this thread (How to make videos) or use the search function.
  3. When the competitor has finished working on their best entry, they must contact ******* either on AIM or through Private Messages to see how they can upload their entry onto his server.
  4. Once ******* has confirmed that the entry is fine, wait until the Coordinator says that they have sent the PMs to the judges and wait for a week. By the beginning of the following week, the scores shall be posted.
-[GTP Challenges]-

->Directions<-
  1. Upon making a GTP Challenge, a competitor must challenge another competitor in order to qualify a challenge, or a team challenging a team.
  2. The competitors/teams must discuss what course, horsepower limits, tire limits, a due date and/or certain corners where the battle will take place.
  3. After making an agreement upon the minimum circumstances (among others that can be made between the challengers), each challenger, or team captain of each team, must contact one of the head judges to confer on making an official thread.
  4. Once a thread has been made with the challengers' names in the title: "GTP Challenge: (Team A) vs. (Team B)", the challenge has officially begun.
  5. When the challenger has finished working on their best entry, they must contact ******* either on AIM or through the Private Message System to see how they can upload their entry onto his server.
  6. Once ******* has confirmed that the entry is fine, wait until the Coordinator says that they have sent the PMs to the judges and wait for a week. By the beginning of the following week, the scores shall be posted.
  • The head judge that the challengers have contacted will be the Coordinator of the Challenge.

In any moment, any of the statments above may change, depending on the situation. This post will be updated as soon as it possibly can. Some new points may be added, which will be in bold and at the end of the statement, have a date upon when it was added.

If the directions are not comprehendable, do not make sense, or cannot find what you were looking for, please contact Thio either through a Private Message or on AIM at dn12tennis.
 
JUDGING

-[Becoming a Judge]-

->Requirements<-
  1. Must be recommended by GTP community members.
->Responsibilities<-
  1. Turn in scores a week after entries have been sent to judges.
  2. Evaluating entries with an unbiased vision and give an adequate score upon what s/he think is the best score for that entry.
  3. Being a positive influence in the GTP community.
->Rules<-
  • Judges cannot compete in the events. Exception: they can make an entry for the competition, but it will not be scored.
  • Judges have the responsibility to evaluate entries based on what they think is the best score for the entry. If there is any sign of a biased judge toward one entry, they will be dismissed from duty.
  • Judges must be available for judging a competition or challenge. If a judge is not available, then they must provide a reason why. Unless excused, they must be available at all times.
  • Judges will have the responsibility of participating at least in 4 events, either in a GTPDC or a GTP Challenge over a two month period.If it is not met, then they are dismissed until the next round for a new panel of judges.
  • Once judges are obliged to an event, either a GTPDC or a GTP Challenge, they are bound to fulfill their duty unless there has been a terrible situation happening with the judge. If so, the Coordinator of the event must be contacted immediately and must be excused from the Coordinator.

-[Becoming a Head Judge]-

->Requirements<-
  1. Must be recommended by GTP community members.
  2. Must be an established GTP memberfor more than half a year.
  3. Must have a drift video or display an adequate knowledge of drifting.
  4. Must be able to communicate with other judges and handle events.
->Responsibilities<-
  1. Handle events.
  2. Keep event(s) in check, making sure everything is on time (scores, entries, due dates, etc.)
  3. Evaluating entries with an unbiased vision and give an adequate score upon what s/he think is the best score for that entry.
  4. Being a positive influence in the GTP community.
->Rules<-
  • Head judges cannot compete in the events. Exception: they can make an entry for the competition, but it will not be scored.
  • Head judges should be able to help each other out if the one in charge is in need of help.
  • Head judges have the responsibility to evaluate entries based on what they think is the best score for the entry. If there is any sign of a biased head judge toward one entry, they will be dismissed from duty.
  • Once head judges are obliged to an event, they are bound to fulfill their duty unless there has been an unexpected situation on the judge. If this is the case, then contact one of the other head judges to handle the event. Pass on the necessary information (scores, entries, etc.) to make sure that the transfer of power is smooth.
*GTPDC*
  • The Coordinator (1 head judge) must manage the GTPDC while the others assist.
  • The Coordinator must send the entries to the panel of judges on the GTPDC.
  • The Coordinator must compile the scores and post the results along with the entries.
*GTP Challenges*
  • The head judge that has been contacted about the challenge will be the Coordinator. They will manage the challenge and make sure that everything is going as specified.
  • The Coordinator must manage the GTP Challenge while the others assist.
  • The Coordinator for the challenge must send the entries to the panel of judges on the GTP Challenge.
  • The Coordinator must compile the scores and post the results along with the entries.

If you want to know how the entries will be scored, please look further down the thread.
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There are four positions for Head Judge and ten positions for the panel of judges. Here is the most current update (August 2004):

Head Judges
  1. bengee
  2. BreakerOhio
  3. silviadrifter
  4. Thio
Panel of Judges
  1. battle_stage
  2. bustwave.
  3. Der Alta
  4. ForcedInduction
  5. nightkids4ever
  6. Ottoman
  7. Ryen49
  8. Sheron
  9. vinkento
  10. ---------------
There will be a thread every nine weeks for a new Panel of Judges and new Head Judges. This is to help keep the Panel of Judges fresh.

I hope to see many new judges in the future!

Drift on...

-Thio

In any moment, any of the statments above may change, depending on the situation. This post will be updated as soon as it possibly can. Some new points may be added, which will be in bold and at the end of the statement, have a date upon when it was added.

If the any of the statements above are not comprehendable, do not make sense, or cannot find what you were looking for, please contact Thio either through a Private Message or on AIM at dn12tennis.
 
SCORING

-Exhibition Drift Scoring Procedure-

Points will be awarded out of the maximum amount listed below:
  1. Smoke (5 points)
  2. Style (10 points)
  3. Angle (10 points)
  4. Control (10 points)
Explained...
  1. Smoke makes the drift more exciting. The more the better.
  2. Style consists of how a person controls their car differently from the average drifter (how they drift the course). Points are awarded for uniqueness... etc...
  3. Angle... the more the better. Because the above is completely left to personal judgment no point scale will be developed, but judges are expected to judge in an unbiased fashion.
  4. Control consists of how smooth the car is being handled while drifting, Points are taken off for wall hitting/sliding, lots of stuttered counter-steer, poor line taking, etc...
The challengers must decide where the judges are expected to judge drifting. This must be stated in the first or second post of each challenge so judges can do there job fairly and efficiently. Specify one of the following:
  1. Just in corners
  2. Linking some corners without drifting in straights
  3. Drifting the entire lap
If nothing is specified, individual judges may count drifting in straights and linking corners as either positive or zero points in style and control categories, but not in smoke or angle.

-Racing Drift Scoring Procedure-

Points will be awarded out of the maximum amount listed below:
  1. Style (5 points)
  2. Time (10 points)
  3. Speed (10 points)
  4. Control (10 points)
If more than two wheels leave the track the challenger must enter another video.

Explained...
  • Style consists of how a person controls their car differently from the average drifter (how they drift race the course). It also includes a score for smoke (the more smoke is not better), unnecessary smoke as well as not enough smoke will count toward point deductions, but in general smoke from four wheels rather than two and moderate levels of smoke will be what the judges are looking for…
  • Time will be scored on how fast the drifter is going. The faster competitor will receive a score of 10, while the slower one will receive a deduction of 1 point for every second lost to the opponent. For fractions of a second this proportion will be used in determining points.
  • Speed: I have done the scoring in this way because exit and average speed take more skill than entrance speed.
    • Average exit speed in all sectors with corners will be 40% of the score for speed
    • Average average speed in all sectors with corners will be given 40% of the score for speed.
    • Average entrance speed in all sectors will be given 20% of the score for speed. In each of the above areas, the person with the higher average speed will receive a score of ten and for every MPH the slower individual will receive a deduction of .2 points in exit and average speed and .1 points in entrance speed.
  • Control will include line taking and slip angle, and will be judged by individual judges due to its nature. 40% of the score will be devoted to line taking, which involves proper apexing and the choice of a well chosen line (one that utilizes the road to the driver’s greatest advantage). 40% will be devoted to slip angle. Here the greater the angle does not necessarily grant a high score. Rather, the way that the slip angle is used will be of more importance, and things like clean exits and fast but controlled entries will be rewarded. 20% of the score will be reserved for deductions resulting from things like hitting walls and stuttered counter-steer (if these do not occur then they receive the full 20%).
*Speed and time will be determined by a submission of the following from the analyzer: speed, average speed, sector times, and lap time. Only the head judge will score this portion.*

In any moment, any of the statments above may change, depending on the situation. This post will be updated as soon as it possibly can. Some new points may be added, which will be in bold and at the end of the statement, have a date upon when it was added.

If the explanations are not comprehendable, do not make sense, or cannot find what you were looking for, please contact Thio either through a Private Message or on AIM at dn12tennis.

-Thio

(The original Scoring was made by bengee)
 
Now that's good concise info. Thanx Thio!
 
clear and concise.. makes great for referencing all at once.. no need to shuffle around..really handy.. i know i'll be visiting this link alot in the near future:)

wish i had seen this before i made my judge post question :P

thanx thio..
 
There are very few people left as active "GT3 Drift Forum viewers", so good luck on finding someone to challenge...





;)
 
ahh i wanna drift challenge some one!! stupid gt4 disc scratched or else i could do it in the 4 forum... anyone wanna drift gt3?? somebody... annybody? lol
 
Uhm.... not to be mean or anything, but if you notice his post, he posted that in December. Last I checked, it is now August, which would mean that he most likely isn't interested in a competition.


Although I could be wrong, but this should be locked until someone maybe actually provides solid proof that they (and other people) have a GT3 drift competition set up (just a suggestion, GTPlanet mods do a good enough job without my help)
 
hey if you still wanna do it then let's.

to get it to your computer your probably gonna need a tv tuner/capture card., thats how i do it. you can then just hook up your ps2 to your computer through the capture card and watch/record your game.
 
some of the settings in the game are not precise.Even if you try to transfer it to a computer,the fixes wont change or modify.once i played against my bro and i lost because of the modifications
 
I might partake in some of these drifting challenges with my Aston Martin DB7, Nissan 240SX, or Nissan Skyline.
 

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