F090/s Attempt at F1 championship

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Greetings everybody, this is my first post. Been lurking around for a month or so and haven't found the answer to my question.

My next GT3 adventure is the F1 series in Pro - Sim. I'm running it in the F090/s and the first few tracks haven't been much trouble. I'm now at the test course and it's a sweaty nail biter.

Can someone point me to a thread with info about set-ups for this car and track so I can post a win?

First attempts, I've only managed 2 spots off the pole. I can keep with the F094 most of the way but it's not a sure win. Do I have a chance with this car, or should I screw it and exit out? Yes, My oil light is on and the car has 709 hp.
 
Test Course is really just a matter of max springs, minimum ride-height, and tweaking the transmission.

Originally posted by Ellegance
Yes, My oil light is on and the car has 709 hp.
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Are you sure? I think the F090/S has 690HP with dirty oil.
 
Yeah just mess with the Tranny so it topps out at like 250 MPH and draft the entire time. Also, DO NOT pit. It makes the race rather fun if your to the point of needing to draft to keep up but there will be about 2-3 laps of you by yourself
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
Test Course is really just a matter of max springs, minimum ride-height, and tweaking the transmission.
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And the least amount possible of downforce along with 0 Camber and 0 Toe.
 
Skip it and do it later with the F688, that apparently has a higher top speed, so once you've won the championship just do that one.
 
Thanks BadBatsuMaru!

You're right, my oil light hasn't come on yet. It'll be on shortly though.

DoZeRxXx, I don't think this little car can get to 250mph. I've already dropped the downforce to minimum, dropped the camber and toe to zero, reduced Ride height and tried tweaking the transmission.

I guess I'm outta luck if nobody knows a transmission setting. I do appreciate the input, thanks!

Looks like I'll take a third place finish unless I can keep in the draft for that long.
 
Common wisdom has it that the F090 just can't keep up at the Test Course. You may be able to win it if you set your gearing actually a little longer than ideal for open-air driving. In other words, if you have the gearing tweaked like normal - so the car is topping out just below redline - you may be geared too short to draft effectively. Try setting your gears tall enough that it tops out about 1000 rpm below redline. Then, tuck in behind the fastest car and draft as fast as possible. If you hit the rev limiter while drafting, nudge the final drive taller until you don't. Maybe that way you'll be able to keep up. You can make a slingshot pass in the last quarter of the last turn of the last lap, and maybe post the win.

Anyway, welcome to GTPlanet, Ellegance. Enjoy your stay here. Check out the Writeups board, and also Der Alta's excellent Compendium.
 
I'm in the middle of the Formula GT championship with an F090/S, and I'm leading the series. I skipped the Test Course, I'm thinking of completing that round with an Escudo later on.

Yes it's cheating, but all's fair in love and Test Course.
 
all those ideas are rubbish ones!!..all u need to do is not to pit in!! simple..no need to set up the car different..try ur hardest to keep up wiv em and slip steam em then when they pit in after 6 or so laps u just keep going..u dont need to pit in at all...the problems with the champ..are the tracks after the trest courcse i just cant seem to win...the 001 are to fast and i have no time to get an extra pit stop that i need!!..can any1 helpe me with this?
 
I doubt it. All our ideas are rubbish.

Your user name is offensive, and so is your attitude. Why don't you re-register with a new personality and a new name? Then everybody will be happier.

After the alleged "little brother" incident - and that's the oldest excuse in the book, which nobody buys - you're on very shaky ground here. Between that event, and your offensive name, you've used up two of your three strikes already. One more and you will be asked to leave.
 
why wud i care...its a forum not a bludy gold encrusted brothol with britney spears in there...get a grip man and stick to the post in hand!
 
I did stick to the post at hand. You told everybody that our ideas were rubbish, then you turned around and asked for help... not a particularly smart way to go about things.

And with that, see you later. Go find a different forum where people don't care about the community.
 
Originally posted by Ellegance
DoZeRxXx, I don't think this little car can get to 250mph. I've already dropped the downforce to minimum, dropped the camber and toe to zero, reduced Ride height and tried tweaking the transmission.[/B]
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I didn't say it could get to 250mph, Just set it to the auto Wide i think its 48 then lower your final gear by 2-4 L1 ticks.
I said to set it to top out at 250MPH so your not topping out at 215 like its set. I find the race fun if you car is forced to draft to go faster than 215
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
Go find a different forum
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He tried, but bobkart banned him from GT3Times as well. :D

F1 cars aren't very aerodynamically efficient - well, they're open-wheeled cars with huge great wings on... So they mostly suck at Test Course. I had the lap record for a solo-P001 run (no AI cars to slipstream) at Test Course, until someone took 0.020s off me, and I did it by:

Minimum downforce
Zero camber
Zero toe (in either direction)
Rear springs much harder than fronts (11.5/14.5)
Take the bottom line (some cars like to be run round the outside,
the F1s like to run down the inside). Stay at or below the yellow line whilst in the banks.

Now the gearing is tricky. I found that setting the car so it can almost, almost reach it's maximum geared speed was actually slower than setting the maximum geared speed well beyond the range of the car. Strange but true. I used the "tranny trick":
1. Set Final ratio full right.
2. Move AutoGear full right, then back full left.
At this point the game stores the Final ratio at which AutoGear was set.
3. Move Final ratio to desired value (3.150 for my P001), and only ever move the Final ratio again! Don't touch the AutoGear!.
Have a play around with this on Free Run for a while found out what point the F1 will stop accelerating, then decrease the Final Ratio a bit, and try again.

Not pitting-in has it's merits - you can lose around 40s for a stop at Test Course, and not reach full speed until the back straight.

But the problem is you've got a 700hp car with the aerodynamic efficiency of the Golden Gate Bridge. F1s are no fun at Test Course - F1s with no power... :D
 
Originally posted by CoCkRoCkEt
why wud i care...its a forum not a bludy gold encrusted brothol with britney spears in there...get a grip man and stick to the post in hand!
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Thanks Neon_Duke. Both for the info and getting rid of this guy. I was wondering who to tell that I thought this guys name was offensive (even to me). Der Alta's website gave me quite a bit of info, He pitted at the midway point.

Famine, Thanks for info on the tranny trick. I had picked that up after lurking here for a bit. It really makes transmission tuning much simpler.

So from everything mentioned here, I've got no choice, but to draft the fast cars to the finish line (maybe skipping the pit stop) and waiting until the right moment to step out of the draft and sneak the checkered flag. :D

Thanks guys. I'll let you know how it pans out.

And from testing...It looks like I'm up the creek at Tokyo R246. Maybe Pupik can give me a bit of info?
 
Hmm. I don't get it...

You're clearly using the NTSC version, but you spell properly, use English-slang, have a reference to a woman I wish they'd leave out of the papers for ONE day and list your location as Eric's house... Chipped PS2, or are you an ex-pat?

BTW most of what I said can only be specifically applied to the F094/S or P001 - since I'm a PAL player, I have no experience with the NTSC F1s and can only extrapolate on how the F090 would work.
 
Famine: I'm a born and bred US lady. Some of us did learn proper grammar over here. I have done a little bit of travelling, but not enough to pick up English slang.

"Ellegance" comes from my dancing background and a play on words with my real life name. Eric's House? Nope, just a song from a band I like.

Thanks on the F094/s vs. P001. Form a month+ lurking, I had figured out you were "from that side of the pond" ;) and knew the difference between the F1 cars.

Thanks again! Also, I've only got TT10 and the F1 series left to run to hit 100%, so I can drive halfway decent. Otherwise, I would have run the F094 in this series.

Thanks! :tup
 
Oh no! A female! *dissolves*

That explains your ability to use the English language - no mis-spelling of "colour" though... :D You join a small bunch of GT3/Online ladies. So small that I can only think of Lotus350 here, and.. Black Widow at GT3Times...

22 Acacia Avenue is where Eric lives. But when Eric eats a banana he becomes... Bananaman! (very British cartoon - in the style of Dangermouse :D)

TT10 bites - but with enough practice it's okay. I picked it up for the first time in 6 months the other day and ran a 4'48 first time - and I remember the week I spent trying to do it the very first time... :D If you need any help, there's a few videos of runs around - you might want to pick up an Xport/Sharkport too, then you can download replays and use them as ghosts to chase (or even upload them and send them to us - or at least NTSC users amongst us - to chase :D).

Anyway, welcome to GTP and be sure to have fun. Y'all. :D
 
Originally posted by Ellegance
Famine:

"Ellegance" comes from my dancing background and a play on words with my real life name. Eric's House? Nope, just a song from a band I like.
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I think Famine thought it was "Bananaman's" house - Famine, am I right?

BTW, Ellegance, thanks for the info and insight into your background. I was just wondering what band / song is it?
 
Originally posted by Ellegance
I was wondering who to tell that I thought this guys name was offensive (even to me).
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I can certainly see how people would find the name offensive, but I'm sure it wasn't intended to be, however offensive he may be as a person. It's a reference to a scene from a Trey Parker movie:
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Originally posted by Ellegance
Der Alta's website gave me quite a bit of info, He pitted at the midway point.
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Der Alta's site is a great resource. I would put it second only to Kideng's database, but I still guarantee you that 99% of people on this forum will confirm that you don't need to pit on Test Course ever with any car. Even with bright red tires, you won't spin out unless you hit the wall very hard. You should just be able to draft until everybody has pitted in by about lap 10, then you'll just be way out ahead. Before they catch up, they'll pit again, and you'll have nothing to worry about.

Originally posted by Ellegance
And from testing...It looks like I'm up the creek at Tokyo R246. Maybe Pupik can give me a bit of info?
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Where are you losing time on Tokyo? You should be able to make it only pitting at the end of laps 6, 13, 19. You may have to lower your downforce a bit, raise your TCS to 3 or 4 to save your tires, and take lap 13 pretty easy (or whatever lap you have to stretch it on orange tires). The AI only pits 3 times, though, so it'll help a lot if you only pit 3 times.

One key to Tokyo R246 II is letting off the accelerator a little as you go through the big sweeping turns so you have a good tight line without braking and you get a good exit speed. There are also two places (the sweeping right when you first enter the narrow stretch on the right of the map, then the chicane on the backstretch at the top of the map) where you may think you have to slow down, but you don't have to if you turn hard at the right time.
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
Where are you losing time on Tokyo? You should be able to make it only pitting at the end of laps 6, 13, 19. You may have to lower your downforce a bit, raise your TCS to 3 or 4 to save your tires, and take lap 13 pretty easy (or whatever lap you have to stretch it on orange tires). The AI only pits 3 times, though, so it'll help a lot if you only pit 3 times.

One key to Tokyo R246 II is letting off the accelerator a little as you go through the big sweeping turns so you have a good tight line without braking and you get a good exit speed. There are also two places (the sweeping right when you first enter the narrow stretch on the right of the map, then the chicane on the backstretch at the top of the map) where you may think you have to slow down, but you don't have to if you turn hard at the right time.
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I think that I'm losing time simply because I don't have the HP to run with the fast guys. What I've been doing is qualifying attempts to see how well I place. I figure, if I can pole the start, I should be able to win. At Tokyo, I haven't been able to get closer than 3rd place.

Thanks! I'll try this again soon.
 
I had a run at Tokyo today in a woefully underpowered MX-5 1.8i (1989 version) at Amateur/FR Challenge.

I found that although I was losing time in the fast first and second sectors, if I kept it smooth through the hammerhead at the very top of the course I could get all my time back and more. I went from 1'53/1'54 in the first race to 1'51.0 in the second race, just by slowing down the entrance to the first part of the complex after T2...
 

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