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seagullgeet

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seagullgeet01
Hi all..i have a question its been doing me nut in for ages.i race alot online mainly the ring at like 500pp and it seem like all my car's are allways slower on the straights than everyone els's. this is how a race usually goes down with me race start get stuck behind someone and cant make clean pass. finally get past maybe make it to 2nd or 3rd beast it round the corner nicely done on the inside of the guy in front only to be taken back when i comes to a straight or even taken back as i leave the corner.or when i get into someones drag 98% of the time they still pull away the car's i usually use are s2000 r1, nsx,m3 csl,m3 gtr, the usual cars you will see in 500-550pp races i cant understand why my cars are like it.the only good thing about it is that am a beast through the corners haha yours truly the geet
 
Its not you. M3's are "cheap" cars except premium one. Nsx is just beast. Usually you hope they ban Mr around 500pp.
 
iamjajo
From your description it sounds like your transmission needs to be adjusted for better speed and overtaking in the draft.
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thats what i thought but cant seem to get it right ive been messing around with the s2000 on the speed test track. its soo good in the corners if it had better straight line speed it would be unbeatable.what transmission help can anyone give me
 
seagullgeet
Hi all..i have a question its been doing me nut in for ages.i race alot online mainly the ring at like 500pp and it seem like all my car's are allways slower on the straights than everyone els's. this is how a race usually goes down with me race start get stuck behind someone and cant make clean pass. finally get past maybe make it to 2nd or 3rd beast it round the corner nicely done on the inside of the guy in front only to be taken back when i comes to a straight or even taken back as i leave the corner.or when i get into someones drag 98% of the time they still pull away the car's i usually use are s2000 r1, nsx,m3 csl,m3 gtr, the usual cars you will see in 500-550pp races i cant understand why my cars are like it.the only good thing about it is that am a beast through the corners haha yours truly the geet
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seagullgeet
thats what i thought but cant seem to get it right ive been messing around with the s2000 on the speed test track. its soo good in the corners if it had better straight line speed it would be unbeatable.what transmission help can anyone give me
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Seriously. what is wrong with you dude.???

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you likely run a gawdawful wing on your car which is a detriment on the 'ring at anything below ~550-600pp. get rid of it and use the points you wasted on aero on horsepower.
 
As a general rule, fast round corners = slow on straights, you need to find the right setup for what you need, quick round corners is probably best for qualifying but fast on straights helps overtake and defend.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
As a general rule, fast round corners = slow on straights, you need to find the right setup for what you need, quick round corners is probably best for qualifying but fast on straights helps overtake and defend.
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To emphasise on this, it sounds like your advantage in the corners is wasted as you can't pass there. If you can go faster on the straights then you only need to match them in the corners and make it all back on the straights.
 
seagullgeet
the car's i usually use are s2000 r1, nsx,m3 csl,m3 gtr, the usual cars you will see in 500-550pp races i cant understand why my cars are like it.
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Atleast the NSX does well with the stock transmission, so no need to touch that.

Do you have aero on your cars? Try lowering it or taking it out altogether.

As someone pointed out, fast in corners is good for attacking, fast on straights is good for easy overtakes (unless you've been left too far behind by the corners) and defending. Try to overatke them as early as you can after the carousel (in case you've been left behind by the straight before it) and build a big lead up until the straight and you might make it.

JrDarknes
Its not you. M3's are "cheap" cars except premium one. Nsx is just beast. Usually you hope they ban Mr around 500pp.
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Many people ban MR which really pisses me off as almost every single one of my favourite cars is MR.

NSX, Miura, Countach, Stratos, Elise, Espirit and the list goes on... Usually then I'm left racing the BTR and Yellowbird but against most racers those aren't very competitive. I don't have a single good FR 500pp car except for the RX7 Spirit which I should try tuning up to 500pp.
 
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How many times have you lapped the Nur and in how many different cars? If less than 500, you need to keep practising. Online Nur Drivers have agerage 9,000+ laps under their belts:) and still make mistakes! :) keep it clean, even though one out of every 2 races has more than 2 drivers that won't, and yet blame you for it. It is an unsettling culture of online US Regional drivers, but keep your chin up. And never quit out of a race, no matter what your downfall. (unless your wife is bringing the dinner plate while you are still finishing a lap)

Rising up out of every crash, will enhance your driving skills on the Nur, you will surprise yourself, and others, in the long run.

/6:49s in Lotus Evora, no aids. 500pp. (nudging out concept NSX drivers) ~ at times :grumpy:
PS3, is my GT5 hardware.
Hint, if you want a fast car on straights, make sure you select one that can at least accelerate past 235km/hr on the long winding uphill straight (top of the track) @ Kesselchen section. Prefereably one with matching Torque line and HP line in high rpm range.

Know and respect the track, suddenly you will become competitve in most any car at 500pp.
The track will Not reward you for showing off, in fact quite the opposite. The ghosts of the green hell will claw you into the bushes behind each rail, lol. I died at least 100 times on it so far. but my death rate is forever decreasing. Perhaps I should give my subconcious a break, and take over now.
 
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Ahh the title says it all, in a PP limited race. If you are faster in the corners that means your car is light and well balanced in handling, but that will not translate into high speed on straights. This is why I love PP races forces you to try to strike a balance between overall speed and handling ability. Cars like the NSX usually never need to lose weight as it's pretty light on it's feet to begin with and it's top end is pretty high(thanks to it's shape and NA engine). If you are already good at cornering just add more power and see how well you can handle the car in the corners. Depending on the tires you run on you may not need aero parts at all. If you run a street car on race tires you'll never need aero parts, as the grip the tires give far outweigh any downforce you'll get from aero and it just adds to drag.

Balance is the key to a fast car, many cars are already balanced to beat the competition handily. That's half the fun, finding your own machine and tuning it and still placing and or defeating the key player cars like NSX, M3's and other advantageous machines.
 
In my experience low straight speeds and good cornering = too high a final gear, lower it and try again. If you find the turns speed down too much, raise it some. The transmission should match the motor. If you go all out and the red over rev light is on, you have under geared your trans, go back move the highest speed limit up, keep doing that until you dont light that light any more
 
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oh!.OK mate not sure what i did but thanks for the input. cheers 👎

esoxhntr
you likely run a gawdawful wing on your car which is a detriment on the 'ring at anything below ~550-600pp. get rid of it and use the points you wasted on aero on horsepower.
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no mate. Not using a wing their is no need for it on 500pp cars really. The only difference it makes is like 4-5 mph anyway. Cheers:)

pezzarinho17
To emphasise on this, it sounds like your advantage in the corners is wasted as you can't pass there. If you can go faster on the straights then you only need to match them in the corners and make it all back on the straights.
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Yes precisely. But what would i need to do get it a little quicker on straights?
 
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"Average online racers have 9000+ laps at Nurburgring."

What? I highly doubt that. That's 1500 hours! I've ran daily on the Ring since launch, I'm lucky if I have 1000 laps.

Don't post inaccuracies, it helps no one.
 
As someone pointed out, fast in corners is good for attacking, fast on straights is good for easy overtakes (unless you've been left too far behind by the corners) and defending. Try to overatke them as early as you can after the carousel (in case you've been left behind by the straight before it) and build a big lead up until the straight and you might make it.

yea that's what i usually try to do before the long bends. Get as far as i can ahead.But its hard sometimes when you have some of the idiots that you get online now a days.
 
Lambob
How many times have you lapped the Nur and in how many different cars? If less than 500, you need to keep practising. Online Nur Drivers have agerage 9,000+ laps under their belts:) and still make mistakes! :) keep it clean, even though one out of every 2 races has more than 2 drivers that won't, and yet blame you for it. It is an unsettling culture of online US Regional drivers, but keep your chin up. And never quit out of a race, no matter what your downfall. (unless your wife is bringing the dinner plate while you are still finishing a lap)

Rising up out of every crash, will enhance your driving skills on the Nur, you will surprise yourself, and others, in the long run.

/6:49s in Lotus Evora, no aids. 500pp. (nudging out concept NSX drivers) ~ at times :grumpy:
PS3, is my GT5 hardware.
Hint, if you want a fast car on straights, make sure you select one that can at least accelerate past 235km/hr on the long winding uphill straight (top of the track) @ Kesselchen section. Prefereably one with matching Torque line and HP line in high rpm range.

Know and respect the track, suddenly you will become competitve in most any car at 500pp.
The track will Not reward you for showing off, in fact quite the opposite. The ghosts of the green hell will claw you into the bushes behind each rail, lol. I died at least 100 times on it so far. but my death rate is forever decreasing. Perhaps I should give my subconcious a break, and take over now.
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Haha.. that was inspirational mate.The whole rising up after every crash bit love it :).. But yea i have done many laps in many cars. I have probably done a lap in every car i have got. And i have about 400 cars. And i have probably done around 500 laps of online races.

I have had a 6.52 in the s2000 r1.But its very rare i get a lap where i don't get pitted. Or i can draft someone on the straights.

yea. I respect the track the widow maker lol.But to be honest i respect other drivers probably more than i should I might need to be more aggressive.But the thing with being aggressive is that the hosts are to hasty in kicking you if you accidentally knock someone of

Cheers for replying to my question Bud with such inspirational words. i'm going to slay some clowns at the ring now. You got me pumped Haha :) peaceee

SavageEvil
Ahh the title says it all, in a PP limited race. If you are faster in the corners that means your car is light and well balanced in handling, but that will not translate into high speed on straights. This is why I love PP races forces you to try to strike a balance between overall speed and handling ability. Cars like the NSX usually never need to lose weight as it's pretty light on it's feet to begin with and it's top end is pretty high(thanks to it's shape and NA engine). If you are already good at cornering just add more power and see how well you can handle the car in the corners. Depending on the tires you run on you may not need aero parts at all. If you run a street car on race tires you'll never need aero parts, as the grip the tires give far outweigh any downforce you'll get from aero and it just adds to drag.

Balance is the key to a fast car, many cars are already balanced to beat the competition handily. That's half the fun, finding your own machine and tuning it and still placing and or defeating the key player cars like NSX, M3's and other advantageous machines.
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So maybe add some weight? that's what type of car i am looking for. not the usual thing you see on the track but can keep up with the best of them.that's why i am using the r1. No other car i have used corners like it. Its just lacking the straight line speed if i could find that it would turn it from batman to the hulk on superman steroids with Thor's hammer as his Wang and chuck norris's beard with beast mode turned on full. haha or something like that lol:)

cheers for the input very helpfull.......
 
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esoxhntr
you likely run a gawdawful wing on your car which is a detriment on the 'ring at anything below ~550-600pp. get rid of it and use the points you wasted on aero on horsepower.
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Well assuming you could get any front downforce, then let us take a look at the nurburgring. It is a MASSIVE track filled with loads of mid to high speed corners, where downforce could improve your speed by 5+mph across the course, as opposed to -5 mph but only on the top end on that one large straight.. So with that extra downforce and clean driving, you get much more of an advantage than 5mph on a straight
 
I like my cars to have better handling over speed. :)

Check the rooms draft settings. I dont think I've ever found a public lobby that has one set to weak.
 
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seagullgeet
oh!.OK mate not sure what i did but thanks for the input. cheers 👎
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Dismissing good advice in this manner:

seagullgeet
oh!.OK mate not sure what i did but thanks for the input. cheers 👎
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isn't a good idea as you'll get the staff in here to tell you how to behave officially. It's your own fault if you chose to continue to ignore the rules after being told by "them" too.

Oh, look what's happened now. :sly:

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Thanks.

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Just use good grammar so that our fellow members (which English is not their native tongue) can understand your posts. 👍
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To be fair to seagullgeet English may not be his first language, Sir y Fflint is still quite largely Welsh speaking. ;)
No excuse for poor grammar though, the Welsh are quite good at it. I know, I've been to Glyndyfrdwy*. :lol:

*Yes that is a real place.
 
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1. AUP and its requirements are here for everyone's sanity and enjoyment. It's not asking anyone to cure cancer, nor is it rocket science.

2. I recommend time trials. Fiddling with tuning can sometimes ruin a good car, when all that's really needed is improved technique. Racing a ghost helps this, and can help guide your tuning in the future.
 
Lambob
How many times have you lapped the Nur and in how many different cars? If less than 500, you need to keep practising. Online Nur Drivers have agerage 9,000+ laps under their belts:) and still make mistakes! :) keep it clean, even though one out of every 2 races has more than 2 drivers that won't, and yet blame you for it. It is an unsettling culture of online US Regional drivers, but keep your chin up. And never quit out of a race, no matter what your downfall. (unless your wife is bringing the dinner plate while you are still finishing a lap)

Rising up out of every crash, will enhance your driving skills on the Nur, you will surprise yourself, and others, in the long run.

/6:49s in Lotus Evora, no aids. 500pp. (nudging out concept NSX drivers) ~ at times :grumpy:
PS3, is my GT5 hardware.
Hint, if you want a fast car on straights, make sure you select one that can at least accelerate past 235km/hr on the long winding uphill straight (top of the track) @ Kesselchen section. Prefereably one with matching Torque line and HP line in high rpm range.

Know and respect the track, suddenly you will become competitve in most any car at 500pp.
The track will Not reward you for showing off, in fact quite the opposite. The ghosts of the green hell will claw you into the bushes behind each rail, lol. I died at least 100 times on it so far. but my death rate is forever decreasing. Perhaps I should give my subconcious a break, and take over now.
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I like the way you mention it dude 👍
 

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