Ferrari F150/F150th Italia Launch

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Okay, so, we're going to do this the way we did it last year - one thread for each car launch. And Ferrari are traditionally the first cab off the rank. This year, Ferrari have the F150, named to celebrate 150 years since the unification of Italy (something of a political move by Luca di Montezemolo after he received a lot of criticism for the events in Abu Dhabi). The car will be unveiled at Maranello in about ten hours' time.

Just a quick note: because the releases are staggered, we don't nee twelve threads for twelve cars right now. Instead, I think we'll just have them created no earlier than the day before the launch. I'll delete any thread that is created too early.
 
Hope it's not front wheeled drive and a minivan after seeing the FF. (And yes, I know we are talking about race cars in this forum).

Then again, Ferrari, like the world, has gone crazy.

Btw, I tried googling Luca and Abu Dhabi, but Google hates me right now, and can't connect (While I can to GTP oddly enough).

Can anyone give me a brief history lesson?
 
sumbrownkid, Red Bull made an early strategy call to bring Alonso in to cover Mark Webber, who stood the best chance of taking the title from Alonso going into the final race. Alonso was in front of Webber when they went in and stayed there when they came out, but they got pinned behind Vitaly Petrov for nearly forty laps. Sebastian Vettel was leading the race at the time, and so in order for Alonso to win the World Championship, he had to get through the Russian and Nico Rosberg (and later Robert Kubica when Kubica pitted). Alonso couldn't make it, and while he beat Mark Webber, Vettel went on to win the World Championship (funnily enough, the only point during the season when he led the World Championship). Ferrari took a lot of heat in Italy for it, especially after a very strong late-season surge that saw Alonso dominate in Singapore and take full points in Korea when Red Bull failed to score at all. They eventually got rid of Chris Dyer, who they pinned the responsibility for the bad strategy call on, but several politicians in Silvio Berlusconi's government were very critical of the team and called for Luca di Montezemolo to resign over the whole fiasco. Luca has flirted with politics before, and I believe some people think he'd actually do quite well in politics full-time. I don't know if the name of the chassis was solely down to him, but since he basically guides and speaks for the team, he certainly had a lot of influence over it. By giving the chassis as significant a name as the F150, he'd be emphasising Ferrari Italian roots because most of the time, Ferrari use a chassis designation that is either the year (like F10) or important to Ferrari (like the F60, the number of years Ferrari was in the sport at the time).
 
Impressive knowledge interludes! Wouldn't have thought some of that information to be so widespread
 
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SuperShouden
Now watch Ford sue Ferrari.
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Whatever for? I see no problem here.

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Am I watching last year's unveiling by mistake?

I'm glad there's no shark fin. Hopefully Mercedes' pointed engine cover will be the common denominator between all cars.
 
Watching it now...never really watched F1 before but this is interesting. Maybe just because its live and its Ferrari...
 
Can this translator woman be any more dull??...And maybe do some English lessons?...lol

Itsa a cara witha wheelsa anda ita goosa very fasta...




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Ferrari World always seemed like a strange concept to me...especially because it is in Abu Dhabi. My first time really seeing it was when they had UFC 112 there.

Ferrari World kinda seems like shameless brand exploitation but I guess thats what happens when you get foreign investors...
 
I think it's ok but not a great looking car, can anyone explain the advantage of having the top of the engine cover flat like that, similar to the way Merc had it last year.
 
happycorey
It was kind of interesting at first, then a new lady started talking and I just X'd out...
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You didn't miss much - "We're very excited for the new car, we're going to be fighting for the World Championship, the car is the product of a lot of hard work, etc., etc."
 
I'm very happy with that as long as they don't shark fin it at the first test! Any car without a shark fin looks good in my eyes. Marlboro subliminal marketing is back too.
 
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I wonder if the Scuderia ferrari logo on the engine cover is staying. That looks more like marlboro branding than the barcode ever was.
 
chippy1000
I think it's ok but not a great looking car, can anyone explain the advantage of having the top of the engine cover flat like that, similar to the way Merc had it last year.
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The 'shark fin' as it's known helps stability through turns, although the length of it is no longer allowed to reach the rear wing. Expect every team to use it on their car. :)
 
Bee
Expect every team to use it on their car. :)
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Ah, but with KERS weighing 30kg (and teams without KERS needing an extra 30kg of ballast to make up the difference), is the advantage gained by a shark fin going to be work the cost? A shark fin that cannot reach the rear wing is going to have to be more rigid to support itself than one that does reach the rear wing, and the more rigid a shark fin is, the heavier it will be. So with weight at an absolute premium, as the possibility for the shark fin to have a detrimental effect when the adjustable rear wing is down (as the shark fin also helps with the flow of air onto the rear wing), is it going to be worth the extra weight?
 
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Ah, but with KERS weighing 30kg (and teams without KERS needing an extra 30kg of ballast to make up the difference), is the advantage gained by a shark fin going to be work the cost? A shark fin that cannot reach the rear wing is going to have to be more rigid to support itself than one that does reach the rear wing, and the more rigid a shark fin is, the heavier it will be. So with weight at an absolute premium, as the possibility for the shark fin to have a detrimental effect when the adjustable rear wing is down (as the shark fin also helps with the flow of air onto the rear wing), is it going to be worth the extra weight?
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Fair point but I think for the additional corner stability it probably is worth it. Otherwise they wouldn't have used it last year with the ban on refuelling, (Sure, the F-Duct all but confirmed it's presence aswell), you just gotta look at the newer teams too, both Lotus and Virgin had shark fins in their first update packages but never had the F-Duct.
 
Pirelli not curving around with the tyres is what's really annoying me, a shame, because it's going to affect every other car. :indiff:
 
Bee
Fair point but I think for the additional corner stability it probably is worth it. Otherwise they wouldn't have used it last year with the ban on refuelling, (Sure, the F-Duct all but confirmed it's presence aswell), you just gotta look at the newer teams too, both Lotus and Virgin had shark fins in their first update packages but never had the F-Duct.
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Yeah, but there was a definite advantage there. Even if they didn't have the F-duct, the shark fin helped the funnel air onto the rear wing. The way the regulations are written for this year limits the maximum allowable length of the fin. It will still channel that air, but less effectively.

Stevisiov
Pirelli not curving around with the tyres is what's really annoying me, a shame, because it's going to affect every other car. :indiff:
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Yeah, it's a bit annoying, but what will probably be moreso is the way Pirelli want to mark their tyres recogniseable. Rather than having a white band in a tyre groove or a green circle around the tyre wal as Bridgestone have done in the past, Pirelli are talking about colour-coding the logos to represent the different compunds. I think they're using yellow, red, blue and green to distingiush them. Seeing a Ferrari with blue markings on the tyre will be very werid.
 
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Ah, but with KERS weighing 30kg (and teams without KERS needing an extra 30kg of ballast to make up the difference), is the advantage gained by a shark fin going to be work the cost? A shark fin that cannot reach the rear wing is going to have to be more rigid to support itself than one that does reach the rear wing, and the more rigid a shark fin is, the heavier it will be. So with weight at an absolute premium, as the possibility for the shark fin to have a detrimental effect when the adjustable rear wing is down (as the shark fin also helps with the flow of air onto the rear wing), is it going to be worth the extra weight?
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Extra weight? I don't see how a shark-fin engine cover is heavier than a non-shark-fin engine cover, nor do I see it needing to be massively more rigid, not to the point of being a weight issue.
Weight limits have been increased for this year too, so KERS is not a weight issue so much anymore. Pretty much the teams have the same amount of weight to play around with before with ballast and parts, just with the added complication of placing the KERS system in a good spot.

Its not like KERS is complicating matters as far as heavier parts are concered, all it means is there is less ballast to play with and weight distribution is more difficult to balance.

Put it this way, I doubt the shark fin is going to take up anything like 30kg.

Stevisiov
Pirelli not curving around with the tyres is what's really annoying me, a shame, because it's going to affect every other car. :indiff:
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I'm pretty sure its only for those promo images. The real things will look like this:

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