Ferrari FXX '07 vs Pagani Zonda R '09

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I am obsessed with testing 100% stock cars at Suzuka. The only modification I make are the addition of Sport Hard tires to cars that don't come with them from the dealership.

I've tested over 580 different (stock) cars and every single replay is on my youtube channel.

That's 99% of all the cars in the entire game that do not come with adjustable suspensions, transmissions or LSD's.

I will put all my stuff in this thread from now on. Here's what I've done in the past:

Reviewed: Shelby Cobra 427 '66

All Toyota Celica Suzuka Comparison

All Chevrolet Corvette Suzuka Comparison

All BMW "M" Suzuka Comparison

All Honda/Acura "SiR/Type R" Suzuka Comparison

All Ford/Shelby Mustang Suzuka Comparison

All 13 Mazda Roadster Suzuka Comparison

Suzuki Cappuccino '91 versus '95

Daihatsu Storia CX 2WD versus CX 4WD versus X4

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR '92 versus Subaru WRX STi '94

Today I will bring you my review/comparison of the...

Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren '09 and SL 65 AMG '04

These two have a lot in common, mostly the transmission in both cars being identical. Let's compare specs and Suzuka lap times.

SLR McLaren - 2:12.996
5.4L
616 hp / 6,500 rpm
576 ft-lb / 3,000 rpm
1,768 kg
576 pp

SL 65 AMG - 2:19.696
6.0L
603 hp / 5,300 rpm
738 ft-lb / 2,500 rpm
2,028 kg
546 pp

So we see a difference of 13 hp, 162 ft-lbs, and 260 kg. Most of the reduced weight of the SLR is due to the carbon body and lack of a retractable roof. The AMG makes up a lot of its time with its incredible 738 ft-lbs which peaks 500 rpm sooner than the SLR's measly 576 ft-lbs.

Now, which is more fun to drive? No contest, it has to be the SLR, built by the magical folks at McLaren.

Top speed at Suzuka in mph:
SLR - 163
AMG - 158

The SLR can run a 2:13 all day long, but it took me an entire half hour to break into the 2:12 range. Wheel users should be able to see 2:12 without too much difficulty, but I would be hard-pressed to believe anybody who says they achieved a 2:11 without some kind of power increase or weight reduction.

The SLR is a hair faster than the Ferrari F430 and a hair slower than the Nissan GT-R Black.


 
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All Impreza/Legacy/Evolution Comparison!

100% stock + Sport Hard tires + limited power for some cars that should be 276 hp.

2:20.146 - 470 pp - Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec C '09
2:21.169 - 478 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII RS '03
2:21.618 - 461 pp - Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi spec C (Type-II) '04
2:21.642 - 464 pp - Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi '10
2:21.738 - 475 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR GSR '04
2:21.918 - 472 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI RS T.M. Edition '00
2:21.918 - 472 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M. Edition '00
2:22.232 - 461 pp - Subaru Impreza WRX STI '07
2:22.876 - 458 pp - Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi spec C Type RA '05
2:23.270 - 455 pp - Subaru Impreza Coupe WRX typeR STi Version VI '99
2:23.559 - 456 pp - Subaru Impreza Coupe 22B-STi Version '98
2:23.734 - 457 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR '04
2:23.891 - 457 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR '04
2:24.284 - 463 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR P.P. '07
2:24.563 - 444 pp - Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version (Type-I) '00
2:24.608 - 450 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII GSR '01
2:25.057 - 449 pp - Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi (Type-II) '02
2:25.587 - 449 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR '05
2:25.902 - 449 pp - Subaru Legacy B4 2.0GT spec.B '03
2:25.989 - 451 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR '98
2:26.351 - 442 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR '96
2:26.705 - 430 pp - Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi '94
2:27.095 - 439 pp - Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Version II '95
2:27.850 - 438 pp - Subaru Legacy B4 Blitzen '00
2:28.834 - 435 pp - Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon GT-B '96
2:28.876 - 433 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III GSR '95
2:29.424 - 435 pp - Subaru Legacy B4 RSK '98
2:31.977 - 427 pp - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution GSR '92
2:32.544 - 419 pp - Subaru Legacy B4 3.0R '03

Fastest of the bunch:

315 hp / 6,500 rpm
328 ft-lb / 4,500 rpm
1,450 kg
470 pp
 
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Ferrari F40 '92 versus Jaguar XJ220 '92

2:12.009 - 563 pp - Jaguar XJ220 '92
2:14.805 - 528 pp - Ferrari F40 '92

F40
3.0L
471 hp / 7,000 rpm
425 ft-lb / 4,000 rpm
1,352 kg

XJ220
3.5L
515 hp / 7,000 rpm
473 ft-lb / 4,500 rpm
1,372 kg

These two cars were direct rivals produced in 1992. Both are mid-engined. Both touch 160 mph on the front straight. Only 20 kg difference between them. The F40 sounds meaner, probably because it's a premium car. The XJ220 has more refined handling.

At best, the Jag is a low-to-mid 2:11 car while the F40 might be a high 2:13 car.


 
Pagani Zonda C12 vs. C12S vs. C12S 7.3 vs. Huayra

2:08.226 - 573 pp - Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3 '02
2:08.273 - 623 pp - Pagani Huayra '13
2:11.235 - 565 pp - Pagani Zonda C12S '00
2:13.379 - 519 pp - Pagani Zonda C12 '00

Let's compare the Huayra and C12S 7.3 specs...

C12S 7.3
548 hp / 6,000 rpm
553 ft-lb / 4,000 rpm
1,250 kg

Huayra
730 hp / 5,700 rpm
812 ft-lb / 2,000 rpm
1,350 kg

Top speed at Suzuka
Huayra - 182 mph
C12S 7.3 - 172 mph
 
Hi, like how you drive.
You play old school.
PS3 gamepad and not using the analog sticks.
I heard it from the tire screaming, then i see it at the front wheels
Found the shelby cobra onboard clip, and yup, D-pad and buttons.
You drive very good.
I also use gamepad like that, still can't handle the analog sticks.
Some people say it is better with a wheel or analog sticks.
Nice channel.

wow, i see clips for Fiat panda
Honda element
just a few cars need more then 3 minutes, the rest is below 3 minutes.
i was thinking of something like that when i'm done with uploading the full career mode.
I think another 5 uploads and i'm done.
Finished super licence today, the last two races.
That le mans 24 minutes is no joke, one pitstop too many and you can start again.
 
SRT Viper GTS '13 vs. Alfa Romeo TZ3 Stradale '11

Both cars share the same basic 8.4L V10 engine so I thought it would be fun to compare them. The Alfa is so much easier to drive at the limit, as it should be, and they only built 9 of them in total.

2:12.151 - 566 pp - SRT Viper GTS '13
2:12.501 - 565 pp - Alfa Romeo TZ3 Stradale '11

Alfa
640 hp / 6,400 rpm
601 ft-lb / 5,000 rpm
1,556 kg

SRT
600 hp / 6,000 rpm
561 ft-lb / 5,500 rpm
1,552 kg

The Viper is most certainly better, but it requires some talent.
 
I don't use the D-pad. I use left stick for steering, R2 for gas, L2 for brake, X for upshift, square for downshift.

I'd say 80% of the cars in GT6 can do a lap around Suzuka in under 3 minutes without any modifications. Some took over 4 minutes!
 
All SRT Viper Comparison!

2:11.933 - 580 pp - SRT Viper SRT10 ACR '08
2:12.151 - 566 pp - SRT Viper GTS '13
2:13.921 - 534 pp - SRT Viper SRT10 Coupe '06
2:14.762 - 532 pp - SRT Viper SRT10 '03
2:15.932 - 516 pp - SRT Viper GTS '02



 
All NSX Comparison!

2:17.739 - 468 pp - Honda NSX Type R '02
2:19.687 - 460 pp - Honda NSX Type R '92
2:20.452 - 454 pp - Honda NSX Type S '01
2:20.949 - 449 pp - Honda NSX '01
2:22.758 - 450 pp - Honda NSX Type S Zero '99
2:22.796 - 447 pp - Acura NSX '04
2:23.573 - 446 pp - Acura NSX Coupe '97
2:23.974 - 443 pp - Honda NSX '99
2:24.916 - 439 pp - Honda NSX '90
2:25.634 - 439 pp - Acura NSX '91
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For the showcase video, let's go with the Acura NSX '04. The NSX was cancelled in 2005. For its final two years, production assembly moved to Suzuka.
 
Nissan Fairlady Z 280Z-L 2seater '78 vs Dome Dome-Zero '78

Both use the same 2.8-liter engine, though for some WEIRD reason the Dome has 162 hp the second it leaves the dealership. I did not de-tune it to the correct 142 hp. Both are on Sport Hard tires and no other mods.

2:28.033 - 402 pp - Dome Dome-Zero '78
2:39.979 - 364 pp - Nissan Fairlady Z 280Z-L 2seater '78

Dome
162 hp / 6,500 rpm
166 ft-lb / 4,000 rpm
920 kg

Z
142 hp / 5,200 rpm
166 ft-lb / 4,000 rpm
1,225 kg

I'm sure with 142 hp, the Dome would be about 3-5 seconds slower...

 
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Lexus LFA '10 vs Lexus LFA Nurburgring Package '12

2:11.573 - 547 pp - Lexus LFA Nurburgring Package '12
2:12.259 - 541 pp - Lexus LFA '10

Let me just say, I hate this car. It is very annoying to master. It's twitchy, understeery on some throttle applications and oversteery on others...Highly unpredictable car. I can think of a few better cars with similar times, such as the Ferrari Scuderia and Mercedes SLS AMG.

LFA Nurb
562 hp / 8,500 rpm
354 ft-lb / 7,000 rpm
1,480 kg

LFA '10
552 hp / 8,700 rpm
354 ft-lb / 6,800 rpm
1,480 kg
 
It sounds great and looks beautiful, but the handling (stock) is garbage compared with its competition...It feels heavier than it actually is, and it's hard to squeeze out the fastest time possible.

The Nurb edition should be way faster than the regular LFA. Funny how it isn't.

 
"Too heavy" Weighs 1480kg. I ring lapped both all the way back in 1.04, pulled 7:10.0s for both of them, that was faster than the best production GT-R, and the newest NSX, and the FT-1, which are all similar cars specs and PP wise.

I should revisit them, both feel different as of 1.09, more weight to them, and the nurb package feels abit more tailhappy.
 
I tested the GTR Black Edition (fastest production GTR) and got a 2:12.7 which, while a full second slower than the LFA Nurb, is more predictable/easy to drive. I don't enjoy holding my breath for an entire lap just to be a few tenths faster than a car that's much more relaxing to drive. In the real world where the GTR is 1/4 the price of an LFA, it's a no-brainer.

The ZR-1 is a few tenths faster than the LFA Nurb. I'd rather have that over the GTR and the LFA because it comes with a manual transmission.
 
I push the GT-R really hard, at the high limits it's very fun and terrifying. It feels like it weighs less than 1731.
 
All-Lotus Comparison!

2:19.787 - 488 pp - Lotus Elise Sport 190 '98
2:20.156 - 482 pp - Lotus Esprit V8 GT '98
2:22.001 - 438 pp - Lotus Elise 111R '04
2:22.568 - 460 pp - Lotus Evora '09
2:27.254 - 425 pp - Lotus Esprit Turbo HC '87
2:27.517 - 472 pp - Lotus Carlton '90
2:28.421 - 409 pp - Lotus Elise '96
2:29.241 - 411 pp - Lotus Elise '00
2:31.675 - 388 pp - Lotus Elise '11
2:34.056 - 404 pp - Lotus Europa Special '72
2:41.339 - 398 pp - Lotus Elan S1 '62
2:42.581 - 375 pp - Lotus Europa S.2 '68

The Elise 190 is a fantastic machine. Wish it were premium. 187 hp and 670 kg! The Esprit V8 GT has less than double the horsepower and a hair less than twice the weight of that Elise, which is why it's slightly slower.

The Elise '11 is a disappointment with 133 hp and 876 kg. PD should have included the supercharged version for sure.
 
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Ferrari FXX '07 vs Pagani Zonda R '09

Both of these cars are for circuit use only. That's why they are perfect for a comparison!

The FXX comes with SH tires but the Zonda comes with RH, so I changed the Zonda to SH to be 100% fair. This of course was a mistake. The Zonda is much harder to drive despite having better weight distribution. It weighs 187 lbs less while having more torque, which makes throttle applications more complicated.

2:05.163 - 629 pp - Ferrari FXX '07
2:07.530 - 630 pp - Pagani Zonda R '09

FXX
6.3L
788 hp / 9,000 rpm
506 ft-lb / 6,000 rpm
1,155 kg
F/R% 44/56

Zonda
6.0L
737 hp / 7,500 rpm
524 ft-lb / 5,500 rpm
1,070 kg
F/R% 47/53

With a wheel, the Zonda would be able to achieve a 2:05 without much trouble, and the FXX could surely make 2:03 at least.

 
SuzukaStar
I don't use the D-pad. I use left stick for steering, R2 for gas, L2 for brake, X for upshift, square for downshift.

I'd say 80% of the cars in GT6 can do a lap around Suzuka in under 3 minutes without any modifications. Some took over 4 minutes!
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That's exactly the same setup I have on my DS3!
 

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