Few drifting issues in DS

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Well ive tried 2 cars already to drift and neither worked. Today i went to car #3 (the honda s2000 Type V).
Ive also bought the Amaso S2000 R1 for later use in attempt of drifting. i also have the NSX-R Concept in my garage so i can use that too and i recently bough the S15 which im planning on moving to next after this s2000

Anyways for the Type V S2000 Honda iam using this setup
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1499804&postcount=125

Well i set it exactly as it says and I took this car on a ride on trial mountain track. I tried to go into a drift by feint and i spun out so i said ok thats normal i overturned but no when i pushed the analog less the same thing happened i spun out. Thats 1 problem.
Another problem is that if i do get into a drift and i try to counter steer i ALWAYS spin out. This happened with previous cars too. So yes i would like to know what the problem could be. I am using DS2 controlling throttle and brakes and such with buttons and as for the steering i use the analog. I tried turning the analog very little and i spin out. I tried pulsing the gas and i still spun out. What do you guys think my problem is? Is this car too much for a beginner? Should I just move on to the Stock s15 and modify it to one of the settings i have or what should i do?

If anybody is able to help me out Please post here or please pm me

thx in advance

EDIT #1 I just tried drifting AGAIN and for ONCE i got lucky and kind of drifted but then again ended up spinning out so yes any help again is appreciated
 
It's called a lack of experience. Noone started out drifting like a god. Just keep doing it and you'll get the hang of things.
 
Coderedpl
Well ive tried 2 cars already to drift and neither worked. Today i went to car #3 (the honda s2000 Type V).
Ive also bought the Amaso S2000 R1 for later use in attempt of drifting. i also have the NSX-R Concept in my garage so i can use that too and i recently bough the S15 which im planning on moving to next after this s2000

Anyways for the Type V S2000 Honda iam using this setup
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1499804&postcount=125

Well i set it exactly as it says and I took this car on a ride on trial mountain track. I tried to go into a drift by feint and i spun out so i said ok thats normal i overturned but no when i pushed the analog less the same thing happened i spun out. Thats 1 problem.
Another problem is that if i do get into a drift and i try to counter steer i ALWAYS spin out. This happened with previous cars too. So yes i would like to know what the problem could be. I am using DS2 controlling throttle and brakes and such with buttons and as for the steering i use the analog. I tried turning the analog very little and i spin out. I tried pulsing the gas and i still spun out. What do you guys think my problem is? Is this car too much for a beginner? Should I just move on to the Stock s15 and modify it to one of the settings i have or what should i do?

Mods please do not lock this topic as I couldnt find the answer to my questions using the search. So please.
If anybody is able to help me out Please post here or please pm me

thx in advance

EDIT #1 I just tried drifting AGAIN and for ONCE i got lucky and kind of drifted but then again ended up spinning out so yes any help again is appreciated
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There are several ways to spin out.
#1 - When entering a drift you over rotate and spin off the track backwards towards the outside of the corner
#2 - When entering a drift you over rotate and spin out towards the inside of the track
#3 - When entering a drift you apply too much counter steer and sling-shot out of the drift and off the track opposite to the direction to the corner.

Be more specific in you problems. When you say you spin out chances are they fall under one of those categories.

#1 - When entering a drift and you over rotate and spin off the track backwards towards the outside of the corner - try reducing you speed and using less aggressiveness to enter a drift... Try to to make sucha big inertial force to get you car sideways. A little sideways momentum and then accelerating then backing off to get the car into a slide is sufficient.

#2 - When entering a drift you over rotate and spin out towards the inside of the track - You probably need more entry speed and maybe just a little less sideways force acting on the car.

#3 - When entering a drift you apply too much counter steer and sling-shot out of the drift and off the track opposite to the direction to the corner - This is probably the second most common reason for spinning out. Its really all about patientice and getting to know how the car responds to movement and input regarding the steering. Chances are a maximum input will spin the car out.....a way i get around this is by doing a full lock entering the drift and then quickly reducing the degree of input by about half, this way i have more sideways force acting than i have countersteering. it will take time for you to get the hang of it but thats what i do...EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.

The S2000 isn't impossible to drift...but it will take a lot more practice to get good at it. because there are only 5 gears for it the ratios naturaly have to be higher to get about the same performance out of the engine as a 6 speed trans would. This higher ratio means that the car will usually drop to low revs, out of the power band and you will lose you drift.....my tip is to use a real low ratio and space the gears close together. When tuning your transmission you know that looking at the gears the length of the lines gets shorter. when tuning your gears only do 3rd, 4th, and maybe even 5th (not that you would really use it) and when you do, when you shorten the gear try lining the bottom of the line you are tuning to the length of the higher gear next to it. You'll see both moving and just tune till they are roughly the same level. then go to the next higher gear and repeat it until you have done 3rd, 4th and 5th. You might need to repeat the process 2 times to get a failry responsive transmission...but leave 1st and 2nd alone. If you dont get what i mean PM and ill make a vid for you showing you what i mean.
The bonus about 5 speeds gearboxes is that the gears hold out much longer than a 6 speed....what i mean is that say your in 3rd near the top end of it it will usually sit RIGHT on the edge of the maximu revs whereas in a car with 6 gears if you're in 3rd the gear will usually bounce.

If you struggle with the S2000 try practicing in the car with a long wheel base like a 2.5L supra twin turbo (the car I learnt in). The reason I say this is coz you have a bit more time for control.

Oh and try using BOTH analogs to make gas and brake inputs more refined. Im not telling you to just reccomending it.....if you want to improve you advice is to start using both.
 
one problem I noticed with those settings, was the mixing of N3 and N1 tires. many people still do that, but ALL of the drifting veterans from the GT3 boards would strongly reccomend using the same compound tires front and rear to provide balance for the car. Try using the same tires front and rear on that car, like N2s.

Another thing to try is a few more settings, to really find which kind of setups suit your driving style. TankSpanker's settings are generally harder in the front and softer in the rear, providing alot of oversteer, making it easy to initiate drifts without feinting manuvers. Sheron just posted a few settings, which are use the same spring and shock rates front to rear, which I have yet to try but I imagine provide a more neutral feel. And many others settings, including my own, are harder in the rear and softer in the front. Also pay attention to what drivetrain you are using, as RWD and AWD require different drifting technique.

Dont forget to check out the Drift Reference Guide by Swift and Tankspanker (link is in my sig)!
 
Coderedpl: The issue is not the DS2. It's your technique. You simply need to practice and use the guides on this site to get started. I'm not trying to be a jerk. But that's the simple truth. Once you're able to keep the car sideways for a bit. Then we'll be able to help you fine tune your technique.
 
well i tried the Nissan S15 Varietta today and i must say WOOT i did some very nice drifts :D

I guess its a good starter car then i can move on from there or stay on it :)

I might still need help in the future
 
I setup the volvo wagon according to Ten's settings, and found it alot easier than some of the other setups I had tried, it's not real tailhappy, so its easier to control the drift but slightly harder to start a drift.
I also found what helped was to take the car i was learning on, with full drift setup and try to grip race around the track a couple times, this helped me learn the limits of when it starts to lose grip in different circumstances.
Well good luck to you, maybe we'll both be drifting experts competing for glory someday!
\cheese :sly:
 
Now I clicked on the link to your settings and......watched for 1 sec ad immediatly saw: "front N3 tyres" and "back N1 tyres". Now that's one problem for sure.
 

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