FIAT 500 Autuumn mini Set up helping please

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Onboy123
Well, as the original setting was something like 5/40/5, I'm guessing it's the latter, though trying it wouldn't hurt. Is it really so hard to get a 500 around a track? :lol:
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Nope. It's hard to tune out those last tenths though. :p
 
VTiRoj
Nope. It's hard to tune out those last tenths though. :p
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Especially when most of the tenths are from my utter lack of sensitivity with the throttle. :lol: :grumpy:

Anyway, slightly back on track, I think the best combo so far is to slightly modify CyKosis' gearbox with his versions of my settings, but depending on how it drives, it'll have Roj's contribution in the form of that diff. :D
 
thank you, thak you everybody.
I got 43.6 this weekend with one of your great settings.
Today i´ll try CyKosis1973´s and onboy´s settings
INITIAL R: 8
ACCEL R: 24
BRAKE R: 7
RH F: -17
RH R: -25
SR F: 12.5
SR R: 2.0
EXT F: 6
EXT R: 4
COMP F: 8
COMP R: 4
ARB F: 2
ARB R: 7
CAMBER F: 2.3
CAMBER R: 0.6
TOE F: -0.10
TOE R: -0.40
Brakes F: 4
Brakes R: 7

Default
FG - 5.000
Max Speed - 87
1st - 2.898 (0%)
2nd - 2.249 (25%)
3rd - 1.785 (50%)
4th - 1.457 (75%)
5th - 1.226 (100%)
FG - 3.900
i know the other racers are about lows 42......
Thank you again gentleman...
thank you very much indeed
this night (european time zone) i will do a race....maybe i won´t be the last.Of course with my bad and poor settings i would be the last.
Thank you again.
and i´ll try to get (after the race) the settings for the 42.0 42.1 that they said and i´ll post it as soon as i get it
 
Ah bugger. I knew something was missing. The online physics! In that case, you might not get the understeer us lot have been talking about. In fact, you might get the opposite effect and have slight/ridiculous oversteer.

Bur anyway, you're welcome, glad we could help.
 
mm, by the way, when you talk about the gears....
say
Default
FG - 5.000
Max Speed - 87
1st - 2.898 (0%)
2nd - 2.249 (25%)
3rd - 1.785 (50%)
4th - 1.457 (75%)
5th - 1.226 (100%)
FG - 3.900
does it mean that i must use:
first the default
then put the FG up to 5.000
then the max vel
after that the correct gear ratio from first to fifth
and finally the FG to 3.900
I hope it will be correct....
Thank you again....
And if someone of you need something....and i can help....👍
 
Onboy123
Ah bugger. I knew something was missing. The online physics! In that case, you might not get the understeer us lot have been talking about. In fact, you might get the opposite effect and have slight/ridiculous oversteer.

Bur anyway, you're welcome, glad we could help.
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oh man you talk about diference between normal and online physics, i´m sure you are a great driving-master.well i knew it when you told your 42.6 42.7, but know i´m really shocked....
I´m a roockie, i play against the machine and i have lot of problems when i don´t use driving helpings....And today i began racing something similar to an online championship....
I will pray for your help in my next races....
thank you all, and onboy....well you are really amazing...:cheers:
 
lady ice
oh man you talk about diference between normal and online physics, i´m sure you are a great driving-master.well i knew it when you told your 42.6 42.7, but know i´m really shocked....
I´m a roockie, i play against the machine and i have lot of problems when i don´t use driving helpings....And today i began racing something similar to an online championship....
I will pray for your help in my next races....
thank you all, and onboy....well you are really amazing...:cheers:
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Lulwut? Master? No no no no, it's common knowledge around here. :lol: I'm not too sure about it, but it seems to make the cars oversteer more. Oh, my times weren't that fast, 43.2 was the best I can manage.

And yea, that's how you set the gearbox. 👍
 
lady ice
mm, by the way, when you talk about the gears....
say
Default
FG - 5.000
Max Speed - 87
1st - 2.898 (0%)
2nd - 2.249 (25%)
3rd - 1.785 (50%)
4th - 1.457 (75%)
5th - 1.226 (100%)
FG - 3.900
does it mean that i must use:
first the default
then put the FG up to 5.000
then the max vel
after that the correct gear ratio from first to fifth
and finally the FG to 3.900
I hope it will be correct....
Thank you again....
And if someone of you need something....and i can help....👍
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That's correct, do them in them in that order. It's a fairly 'standard' way of doing the gearbox. As OnBoy has mentioned above, the gears can be better tailored for this track, at the moment they're mathematically set. It's not the usual way I like to set my own gearboxes up, but it will provide very close gearing that reaches the max speed you're likely to hit on this track.

It did occur to me to test the car online, let us know how you get on with it. When I tested the car offline, I did turn on Tyre Wear and set the Grip to Real, so it was as close to online as I could be without actually being online 👍

{Cy}
 
Onboy123
Stiffer front springs? Or...extreme ride hieght difference? Say...0/-25? :lol:
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Why not. I'm thinking of raising the whole car. CSLACR makes a good argument for raising the ride height in order to improve front grip. I've also been blatting the Dream Car Seasonal in an Avid Corvette ZR1 RM that runs +1 ride height front and back. I know it has downforce and sticky tyres, but it grips like a needy child does to it's mother.

VTiRoj
10/60/5 LSD. Do it. :lol:
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Again, why not. I've seen you guys apply some huge diff numbers with great effect. I've also seen some strange stock diff settings on a couple of cars that drive pretty well with them installed. Two Mazdas off the top of my head, RX-8 and premium MX-5. Pretty certain one of them has an INT of 80..!!

lady ice
i´m sure you are a great driving-master.well i knew it when you told your 42.6 42.7, but know i´m really shocked....
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I'm no Master Driver, but I have spent a life-time driving under powered FF cars in real life, so I'm fairly skilled at maintaining momentum. There are only 5 places on the track that I brake, corners 1, 2, 5, 8 and 10. Provided your line and speed are good, just lifting off a little will get you through the rest. Smooth and steady 👍

lady ice
I´m a roockie, i play against the machine and i have lot of problems when i don´t use driving helpings....And today i began racing something similar to an online championship....
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We were all rookies once and I rarely race online these days. I compete (stop laughing OnBoy) mostly in FITT Events, which are hosted by members of these pages, you can find details at the top of this thread. I also build cars for the Seasonal Events that Polyphony Digital release to us.

lady ice
I will pray for your help in my next races....
thank you all, and onboy....well you are really amazing...:cheers:
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Steady, we can't have OnBoy thinking he's been useful, there's no telling what'll happen once he starts developing an ego :sly:

Onboy123
And yea, that's how you set the gearbox. 👍
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Sorry, missed that you'd confirmed that one. Sorry for the double post too :indiff:

{Cy}
 
lady ice
oh man you talk about diference between normal and online physics, i´m sure you are a great driving-master.well i knew it when you told your 42.6 42.7, but know i´m really shocked....
I´m a roockie, i play against the machine and i have lot of problems when i don´t use driving helpings....And today i began racing something similar to an online championship....
I will pray for your help in my next races....
thank you all, and onboy....well you are really amazing...:cheers:
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Well thats got to cheer you up :bowdown:
 
First, i must say that not only onboy is amazing, all of you gentlemen are amazing.
I´m new here, and i´m a foreigner...but you , all of you have answered my questions.
All of you dear friends have helped me, thank you very much indeed.
And now the great new...i got it i did it, i didn´t be the last....increidible.We were 10 and i got 7.I must say that may be i could be 5 or 6 but i suffered a bug, my tyres where iron-tyres 42 laps with hard sport without pitstop and the tyres as well as the start....of course the grip was very poor.I told this to the rest at the end and they talk about it was a bug....
No problem, 7 is great for me, may be next week at london, 38 laps without pitstop, (there is no pit at london)i can reach the 5 , may be....
Thank you all, thak you.
As i said, i got two settings after the race.here i post one, and after i will post the other.
this settings are agresive(the owner said to me)are thought to race 21 laps in autuumn and do one pitstop for a race of 42 laps.
he´s best lap 42.4 and the race(42 laps) completed in 30.50
Suspension:
altura: -5/-16
indice: 10.2/2.0
extension: 5/4
compresion: 4/4
barras: 5/1

alineacion:
caida: 0.6/0.0 CAMBER
eje: 0.30/-0.70 TOE

diferencial: DSL
5/5/5

frenos: 8/10 BRAKES

aleron al maximo AERODINAMICS PARTS…MAXIMUN

caja: GEAR BOX
1ª 3.610
2ª 2.569
3ª1.993
4ª 1.578
5ª 1.356
FG: 3.438
Velocidad maxima: 170 (at the top you see 173) IT´S ON KM/H
ohh by the way, i didn´t remember say that aero parts are allowed, so in this setting he used aero 20
 
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Hah! I told you the -0.50 on my original 500 wasn't that mad, Cykosis! :p

Edit: Actually…Looking at the settings, the toe in particular, its a very OTT version of my original ones…Looks like I was heading in the right direction after all. :dopey:
 
I suspect the high toe angle counters the lack of camber, which in turn may be set low or at zero in an effort to negate tyre wear.

So, back to the drawing board in terms of building for online and for tyre wear.

London, here we come 👍

{Cy}
 
CyKosis1973
I suspect the high toe angle counters the lack of camber, which in turn may be set low or at zero in an effort to negate tyre wear.

So, back to the drawing board in terms of building for online and for tyre wear.

London, here we come 👍

{Cy}
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I'll send it to you tomorrow so you can dupe one, then we can work on it at the same time. 👍
 
CyKosis1973
Good plan. I'll see it I can find time to properly tailor a gearbox too...

{Cy}
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Just sent. 👍 I think the gearbox is good as is, just need to play with the final gear for the tracks. And as there's no pit stop, I think I can be pretty sure that the races are ran with tyre wear off. As such, we can go nuts with the settings and remove the pesky understeer with ease! :D
 
I'll grab it as soon as I've finished 2.0.3ing my game...

{Cy}

EDIT: I think PDiddy broke something, I'm unable to 'give' cars to people...
 
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hello again, my dear friends.
Now i post the ultimate setting, not as agressive as the last i got....well of course i didn´t do it, it´s a setting from a "master" like you gentlemen.
42.2 repeated, and the race of 42 laps in 30.35(the master not me of course)
hp 280
hard sport tyres
weigth the minimun
aero parts 0/20
RH F/R +10/-15
SR 12.0/7.5
EXT F/R 8/4
COMP F/R 4/8
ARB F/R 2/5
CAMBER F/R 1.0/0.5
TOE F/R 0.25/-025
DSL INITIAL/ACCEL/BRAKE 5/15/5
AND THE GEAR BOX
1 3.207
2 2.100
3 1.600
4 1.275
5 1.047 FG 3.461 AND VEL 240 IN KM/H I THINK 150 M/PH
With this settings i show the bests settings reached at this race and the best complete time for the race 30.35, this driver is really a beast, a champion....well like all of you...
i think the pole was in 42.1xx but well if you ran in repeated 42.2...the pole is not really very important, this settings i know are thought to don´t waste tyres and ran 21 laps in 42-43 if you do the count, 42 laps in 30.35 with 1 pitstop that sounds incredible, i´m not able to do this...imposible for me.
Any way the set up is great.I will run 20 or 25 laps in autuumn, maybe i´ll run 42.5 it would be great for me.I can run more in autuumn, because now my new objective is London
I will start working on this set up, changing gear ratios for London....
With this new friend i think i can learn a lot, and may be i will be able(in a future, now i´m just a pupil, student) to colaborate with you, my friends, in some settings in the tuning forum...this weekend i will take a look, you helped me so i will try to help if i can
Thank you very much again and again.
 
Ok, I'll just post it here for me to remember it, but…

Gearbox:
Final drive = 2.650/2.000

Ride Height:
8/10

And good job with the tune so far, CyKosis.👍 It might actually end up being good to drive. :lol:
 
Onboy123
Ok, I'll just post it here for me to remember it, but…

Gearbox:
Final drive = 2.650/2.000

Ride Height:
8/10

And good job with the tune so far, CyKosis.👍 It might actually end up being good to drive. :lol:
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Between us, we should make a passable lash up :sly: I'll endeavour to get some time with the car tonight, definitely will do on Friday afternoon. I ran the car briefly the other night before sending it back to you. Had some decent results with +8/0 ride height. I'm beginning to think CSLACR might be onto something. Will look at running reduced camber too, I think that might be what's causing the car to loose grip mid corner, particularly in the fast left-right after the first hairpin at London...

{Cy}
 
CyKosis1973
Between us, we should make a passable lash up :sly: I'll endeavour to get some time with the car tonight, definitely will do on Friday afternoon. I ran the car briefly the other night before sending it back to you. Had some decent results with +8/0 ride height. I'm beginning to think CSLACR might be onto something. Will look at running reduced camber too, I think that might be what's causing the car to loose grip mid corner, particularly in the fast left-right after the first hairpin at London...

{Cy}
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I know…though I have no idea what is the 'theory' behind running higher = more grip apart from just trialing. And can you try something for me, set the gearbox's final drive to 2.750, top speed to 87, then final down to 2.000, adjust the gears so they just about work without killing you, then tell me how it feels compared to the one you've set up? Because CSLACR, I think it was him anyway, said something about the lower the final gear, the faster a car accelerates or something…And one thing, the 500 has some mid-corner understeer in its current settings, though why, I'm not sure.
 
CyKosis1973
Willdo 👍

{Cy}
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Yay! Tell me your findings, I want to see if some guys theory of having a low final but the same actual top speed is better than just any old way of getting to said actual speed.

Did that make sense? :dopey:
 
Onboy123
Yay! Tell me your findings, I want to see if some guys theory of having a low final but the same actual top speed is better than just any old way of getting to said actual speed.

Did that make sense? :dopey:
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Sort of. I've spent some time playing with high and low FDs. It does affect the cars handling characteristics. Whilst I'm loath to compare real world to this game, in the real world a higher FD will yield better acceleration and a lower FD will yield a higher top end. Like I say though, that's real world and not GT5..!!

{Cy}
 

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