for all u GTR lovers....

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well although im sure its been mentioned here and there, i just thought id give u a first hand account on my solution to the skyline=understeering pig problem.....
dont replace the LSD. it leaves the ATTESSA-whatever AWS and AWD intact. this is a go0d thing because in my opinion nissan engineers know a WHOLE lot more than me when it comes to effectively distrubting torque. just some thoughts...:D
 
go to underneath the post by me to admin options and go down the bar on that to copy/move thread and move it to gt3 settings please

thanks;)
 
Saying "I suggest you don't replace the LSD on a Skyline" is really a fairly general statement. He's not suggesting specific LSD settings, so there's no reason to complain about him putting it in the main forum.

More importantly, he's suggesting that there is something special about the way the Skyline performs with the stock LSD, and that it's actually worse to upgrade it. This is very interesting, and I'd certainly like to see some other people's opinions on this.
 
I think it's probably better to change the LSD, because then you can tune it to suit your needs...
 
to each his own, i just thought id give my .02 on what worked for me... the help is really evident in a high powered (500+hp) gtr because the increase in oversteer is very evident and u can almost "feel" the front wheels being forced to rotate as the ATTESSA engages...

ok, here's a something a little off topic...does anyone think winning the the pro 4wd series with a nismo 400r, tuned to about 600+hp, everything else tuned (save the LSD :D ) while running t2's is an accomplishment?? this is with asm and tcm off and no pit stops, i lapped the last three cars in just about every race...sorry i wish i would have written down my lap times... i think my deep forest(2 maybe?) time was along the lines off 1:17 or such...just want an idea if im progressing :)
 
It shouldnt have an effect, the LSD only goes in front and rear, not the middle (you can have a VCD and LSD at the same time as far as i know). And the center diff is the only thing special about the car, the front and rear are open (afaik). However, an open diff in the front is a good thing if you dont want a car to understeer heavily(or setting the cumstom one well), or even over-steer a bit, so the same goes for any AWD/FWD car.
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
Saying "I suggest you don't replace the LSD on a Skyline" is really a fairly general statement. He's not suggesting specific LSD settings, so there's no reason to complain about him putting it in the main forum.

More importantly, he's suggesting that there is something special about the way the Skyline performs with the stock LSD, and that it's actually worse to upgrade it. This is very interesting, and I'd certainly like to see some other people's opinions on this.
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Here's the way I feel about LSD. On 4WD cars, use none or as little as possible. On race cars that have to have the LSD equiped, set it as low as it'll go. On cars that you can buy the LSD, don't buy it. It induces understeer and understeer is bad in a 4WD car. But on MR or FR cars, use LSD. I don't know about FF because I have not tuned one and not really willing to mess with one. I would get way too frustrated trying to rid of understeer. And since I learned my tuning from Fumes at GTVault and he has done extensive tuning on GT3, I have to agree with his statement on LSD introducing too much understeer to a 4WD car to be beneficial whatsoever.
 
The Skyline I use is not AWD so I can't comment there. I do know the Skylines with AWD that I have used don't give me much problem.

I never use ACS, LSD or whatever that crap is, so I can't comment there either. :lol:

I do use VCD for some AWD vehicles and I am not completely satisfied with it when it comes to eliminating any vehicle control problems. I always put the setting at 10%. I don't know if I'm using it correctly or what, but from my understanding this setting gives 90% power and torque to the rear tires and 10% to the front. I like my AWD vehicles to handle like FR vehicles.
 
Originally posted by Solid Lifters
The Skyline I use is not AWD so I can't comment there. I do know the Skylines with AWD that I have used don't give me much problem.

I never use ACS, LSD or whatever that crap is, so I can't comment there either. :lol:

I do use VCD for some AWD vehicles and I am not completely satisfied with it when it comes to eliminating any vehicle control problems. I always put the setting at 10%. I don't know if I'm using it correctly or what, but from my understanding this setting gives 90% power and torque to the rear tires and 10% to the front. I like my AWD vehicles to handle like FR vehicles.
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You are correct on the VCD settings. When you put it at 10%, only 10% of the power and torque is going to the front wheels, the rest is going to the rear's.
 
Yeah, with VCD I always leave it with rear bias...:)
 
Yep, I have to agree, my R34 V-spec performs waaay better without LSD :)

I think for good 4wd drifts with the aforementioned car, you need sim tyres, customisable suspension and brakes, thants about it :cool:

And oh, I also think that it's 'sweetest' to drive at 345 hp. I have won 591 hp races with my R34...with a keyboard:D

Comments?
 
in response to Goumindong, i just did a little research on the ATTESA E-TS PRO found on the GTR v-spec ll's and this is what ive come up with... the ATTESA E-TS PRO works with a center differential that distrbutes as much as 40% of the engines torque to the front wheels if needs be; as well as a rear differential lock that is engaged with a series of clutches. so in part, we were both right; the system is controlled by a central diff. but alos involves a rear, so although a new LSD wouldnt affect ALL of the ATTESA E-TS PRO system, i think it would intrude enough to at least offset the balance of what seems to be some very fine nissan engineering :) ...here's the source if anyone else wants become enlightened...its about 3/4 down the page;)
 

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