For those people who love IE...

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Well, I know there are a ton of you out there, simply because FireFox doesn't support some sites (a really miniscule amount of them). Well, here's a much better version of IE, but there is a small downside. It is a pay for product.

Winferno Software's Secure IE has a much better security level than Microsoft's Internet Explorer, which means you don't have to download 10 toolbars just to surf the internet. It will help you save on resources as well, because those toolbars sure do take up some.

There is a 15 day trial available, so you can test it out. And, if you ask me, I'd say it's worth a try atleast, maybe even the purchase, for a good IE replacement.

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I'm gonna stick with Firefox. I just can't give up my tabbed browsing! :D
 
Hear hear.
 
I'm a big fan of FireFox myself, but if I ever find sites where I need IE, (aka eBay seller's portions, and some larger music labels) that's when this comes in handy.
 
Event Horizon
I'm gonna stick with Firefox. I just can't give up my tabbed browsing! :D
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That and the Gecko rendering engine. It tans the IE engine's arse.
 
It requires IE though - not what I call a true 'browser'.
 
You have to admit that IE is starting to catch up with these 3rd party browser providers.........look at 6.5 in sp2.......it offers great functionality aswell as standard things such as pop up blocker......I don't really see the problem with IE, I have never had any problems with sites, technical problems etc.....

It really is down to user choice......
 
robin2223
You have to admit that IE is starting to catch up with these 3rd party browser providers.........look at 6.5 in sp2.......it offers great functionality aswell as standard things such as pop up blocker......I don't really see the problem with IE, I have never had any problems with sites, technical problems etc.....

It really is down to user choice......
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Run Ad-Aware, then you'll see the problem with IE. Although IE does look like it performs better after SP2, it's really just masking the problem, instead of facing it. You still get a ton of spyware compared to the 3rd party browsers, which makes it undesireable.
 
I use IE and when I run adaware, which is usually once a week, it doesn't find much of anything. Sometime 2 or 3 cookies, but not much.

I think all this other browsers are great thing is all in your mind. It is just because you guys don't support Microsoft, or Microsoft products.
 
cardude2004
I use IE and when I run adaware, which is usually once a week, it doesn't find much of anything. Sometime 2 or 3 cookies, but not much.

I think all this other browsers are great thing is all in your mind. It is just because you guys don't support Microsoft, or Microsoft products.
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Um... no.

Don't put words in my mouth. I said IE is a crappy browser for a reason. I use FireFox, because it makes up for what IE doesn't have, doesn't support, and right out doesn't do. Try going to GTP for instance, without all the ads on it. Not possible if you're using stock IE is it? But, with the help of FireFox and it's lovely Extensions, I can basically get rid of whatever image I want from a website for good. Oh yeah, and I'm offered what cookies I want or not.

And, if I wasn't a Microsoft user, why would I have Office, or even Windows XP? There's alternatives out there for them as well.
 
robin2223
You have to admit that IE is starting to catch up with these 3rd party browser providers.........look at 6.5 in sp2.......it offers great functionality aswell as standard things such as pop up blocker......I don't really see the problem with IE, I have never had any problems with sites, technical problems etc.....

It really is down to user choice......
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What? You call disabling all that Active X junk, that caused users to switch browsers to begin with, by default and adding a pop-up blocker 'catching up'? Microsoft needs to virtually rework the whole rendering engine so it's not only standards compliant but faster and more secure, such as the Gecko engine used in Netscape/Mozilla. They also need to add in more innovative features, such as tabbed browsing and extensions like Firefox. IE has no chance of a comeback within the geek world if they don't bring it up to par with what others are offering.

cardude2004
I use IE and when I run adaware, which is usually once a week, it doesn't find much of anything. Sometime 2 or 3 cookies, but not much.

I think all this other browsers are great thing is all in your mind. It is just because you guys don't support Microsoft, or Microsoft products.
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Funny that, I'm typing this on a Windows XP machine with Office 2003 and Visual Studio .NET 2003 installed...
 
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I use IE and when I run adaware, which is usually once a week, it doesn't find much of anything. Sometime 2 or 3 cookies, but not much.

I think all this other browsers are great thing is all in your mind. It is just because you guys don't support Microsoft, or Microsoft products.
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Funny that, I'm typing this on a Windows XP machine with Office 2003 and Visual Studio .NET 2003 installed...
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What does your statement have to do with mine. I don't understand. I must have missed something.

BTW, you can set your IE securities to ask you about what cookies you want and don't want as well.
 
cardude2004
BTW, you can set your IE securities to ask you about what cookies you want and don't want as well.
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So?? That's built-in on FireFox as well. Nothing too extravagent there, bud.
 
Meh, IE, Firefox, Oprah... It's all the same internet. There's bound to be vulnerabilities in any browser, including Firefox. People just have to take the time to find them, and then you users of Firefox succumb to the same fate as IE users. There's no real problems with IE, as long as you know how to safely browse the internet, and know what to download and what not to. The only way i can see someone getting a crapload of spyware, is if they accept every little download that is proposed to them. Im probably wrong, but whatever.

Don't think your better than anyone if you use Firefox. That's all i have to say.

Also, if you're so against using Microsoft's software, then why even bother buying windows? Firefox is alright, but to me it's just a waste of space on my hard drive. It never gets used.
 
cardude2004
What does your statement have to do with mine. I don't understand. I must have missed something.

BTW, you can set your IE securities to ask you about what cookies you want and don't want as well.
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If I didn't support Microsoft, I'd be using the latest Fedora linux distro with Open Office installed and some other open source programming IDE. There's lots of alternatives to those Microsoft products...

Acid X
Meh, IE, Firefox, Oprah... It's all the same internet. There's bound to be vulnerabilities in any browser, including Firefox. People just have to take the time to find them, and then you users of Firefox succumb to the same fate as IE users. There's no real problems with IE, as long as you know how to safely browse the internet, and know what to download and what not to. The only way i can see someone getting a crapload of spyware, is if they accept every little download that is proposed to them. Im probably wrong, but whatever.

Don't think your better than anyone if you use Firefox. That's all i have to say.

Also, if you're so against using Microsoft's software, then why even bother buying windows? Firefox is alright, but to me it's just a waste of space on my hard drive. It never gets used.
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Well, Microsoft's very own ActiveX is the reason for people leaving IE. ActiveX is the single greatest threat (security-wise) for IE users. There's a ****load of a holes in ActiveX, and considering it can do some serious stuff like install software from a webpage (ever wondered how Windows Update works), it makes a perfect target for hackers. Luckily, in IE 6 SP2 all active content is disabled and the user is prompted to allow any. But then, there will always be the computer illiterate people who will just click OK to everything and anything...

With that said, ActiveX and IE's holes isn't my main reason for leaving IE. Web developers usually hold a grudge against IE because of how poorly it renders pages and it's standards compliancy is little to none. Also, the Gecko rendering engine used by Netscape/Mozilla browsers is far superior (in terms of both rendering speed, security and standards compliancy) to IE's and with loads of bonus features such as tabbed browsing (I could never go back to multiple windows now) and 3rd party extensions, Firefox is the clear winner.

My main gripe however, isn't against IE itself, but against Microsoft. They seem to think that now they've won the browser war they can just sit back and not worry about updating their browser at all. Oh sure, a few security patches here and there and a pop-up blocker thrown in with SP2 is a real update. :rolleyes: IE hasn't seen a major update since 2001, when XP was released I believe. With new versions of Firefox being churned out every few months (every night if you get the nightlies!), Microsoft need to get off their arse and do something.

However, I have heard news of development of IE7 due to many users switching to Firefox. It seems the browser wars have started again and we might see some action on the IE front.
 
Shannon
However, I have heard news of development of IE7 due to many users switching to Firefox. It seems the browser wars have started again and we might see some action on the IE front.
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On my website, AMDGurus, we get about 50% IE users, 40% Firefox users, and 10% everything else, with the 10% including Mozilla.

If I were MS, I'd definitely get into IE work.
 
lets just put it this way...stock IE isnt great...even with service pack 2...and a lot of 3rd party browsers are way better becuase they are designed for ppl like us...they hav features that work well...unlke michrosofts crapola browser...both hav ups and downs...but i still like 3rd party ones such as Avant
 
I used to have to run Ad-Aware about once a week to get rid of the crap that IE used to allow onto my machine. Since I've switched over to Firefox a few months ago I haven't run Ad-Aware once. I've had no symptoms whatsoever of adware or spyware on my machine and I get almost no pop-up ads.

And even if IE had no adware or pop-up problem, I'd still continue to use Firefox. Tabbed browsing and the download manager means you don't need to have your taskbar full of Internet Explorer icons. If you can have multiple documents open in one instance of an application then why not multiple web pages open in one instance of an internet browser? It's much neater and with the Single Window extension, new windows will simply open up new tabs instead.

Firefox is simply a much more user friendly piece of software. It's got nothing to do with me not supporting Microsoft. If I didn't support them then I wouldn't be running Windows XP. I mean, I paid for Windows XP. Internet Explorer is free, not using is doesn't harm Microsoft financially.

Another complaint I've heard about Internet Explorer is that it doesn't comply to the W3 Consortium standards, which allows web designers who don't know any better to develop websites that won't work properly on other browsers that do comply strictly to the W3 standards. If everyone made their browsers comply to the same standards then all websites should run in all browsers.


KM.
 
Well said, and I agree with everything.
 
I use Firefox for the fact that it is faster for 56k users, there are much fewer sedurity holes, and tabbed browsing. I just love being able to quickly switch from page to page while they are loading, and not have a full taskbar.
 
Well I just switched from IE to Firefox. I must say, Firefox beats the unsecure pants off IE. I used to be one of you guys that thought: "Why switch from IE? It's fine with me. I never get any viruses or adware, and I'm fine with the speed."

Well, firstly, the pop-up blocker is plain fantastic. FF also seems a lot more secure than IE. Secondly, it is much faster than IE. At first, I was thinking that it would only be a real minor difference in speed, but after I used it I was very much surprised. As a 56K (and a future ISDN) user, speed is important to me.

But anyway, I do definately see the advantages of FF over IE, and anyone who is posting here about IE being fine, I recommend get FF before you comment.
 
You can't expect to post a thread about IE's security, and not get someone to say Firefox's is better.
 
ROAD_DOGG33J
You can't expect to post a thread about IE's security, and not get someone to say Firefox's is better.
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No, but not even you know what the topic of this thread really is. It's about a different IE, from another company, not Microsoft's version.
 
toyomatt84
No, but not even you know what the topic of this thread really is. It's about a different IE, from another company, not Microsoft's version.
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Yeah, it's about a more secure IE, that is called SecureIE.
 
Well then, sorry for that before, and back on to SecureIE...
 
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