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Does anyone have any ideas?
Might want to put this in the american tuners since its a Ford.
Indeed it is. In Europe there is a distinction between Ford and Ford USA, they are considered as two seperate brands; Ford is considered a German brand, as opposed to Ford USA, which is considered (surprisingly ) a USA brand. In GT5P, they are considered as one brand.But the Focus ST is based on the european Focus, cuz the Focus that they sell in the U.S. is a totally different one.
Indeed it is. In Europe there is a distinction between Ford and Ford USA, they are considered as two seperate brands; Ford is considered a German brand, as opposed to Ford USA, which is considered (surprisingly ) a USA brand. In GT5P, they are considered as one brand.
Ah, so according to you, a Lamborghini is a German car because Lamborghini is owned by the Audi Group? And an Opel (German) is a US car because it is owned by GM? Ofcourse not. Ford & Ford USA are two different companies, they are NOT the same company. Ford (the German one) is a subsidiary of Ford Motor Co., just like Ford USA is too. Like VW, Audi and Lamborgini are subsidiaries of the Volkswagen-Audi group.Doesn't matter where where the car is made it is who owns it that counts, Ford is an American company the last time I looked. There are Japanese cars made in the UK but they are still Japanese.
Actually no, they arn't classed as British, they are classed as European and more specifically German. There used to be a Ford Europe and a Ford UK (yes, again two seperate companies but they merged). As has been said, Ford Europe and Ford USA are not the same company, they share platforms and parts quite often but they are not the same company. That's like saying VW and SEAT are the same comapny becuase the cars are both owned by VAG and both widely share parts and platforms.Of course it is an American company, Ford UK is still owned by Ford in the US to deny that is nonsense. Ford's that are made in the UK are not regarded as British cars, ask Jeremy Clarkeson, lol.
No he isn't because Honda is Honda, Japanese. There is no Honda UK or Honda Europe that operate independant of Honda. Ford Motor Co owns several car manufacturers much like VAG owns several. Of thoes manufacturers Ford Motor Co owns Ford USA is one of them and Ford Europe is another, I do believe Ford Asia is the third unless they merged that. You see what I'm getting at, Ford USA and Ford Europe are seperate entities, they may both be owned by Ford Motor Co but that is no different to VW and SEAT both being owned by VAG, yet they are both still seperate companies, one being German and the other Spanish.Are you suggesting the nissans built at Sunderland or the Honda's built at Swindon are British? hahahahaha.
So, Rolls Royce and Jaguar are still British, just because they are owned by Ford doesn't change that. That's like saying Mazda is American or SEAT is German.There are very few British manufacturers left, Aston Martin are some other performance makes comes to mind. But Rolls Royce (VW) are not British any more and Jaguar was/is owned by ford.
No it's not, as I said just before Maza isn't American because some of the profits / losses get syphoned off / written off by a seperate company based elsewhere. If I go to work for a French company am I suddenly French even though I'm British. No your nationality is where you are from, not who you work for. Ford USA and Ford Europe are seperate compnaies that both lie under the Ford Motor Co umberella alongside Mazda and others.Who ever owns the company owns the car, it is logic. To suggest that Ford UK, Ford Germany are seperate companies to the Ford parent company is just plain daft IMO.
Irrelevent.When there are some workers laid off either in Germany or UK who do you think orders it?
Give me a time to aim for. I'm still messing around with the Alfa 147.
But I'll have a shot at the Focus later.
not that I'm any kind of tuning expert
So far I have this, just testing this on Suzuka 500pp as we speak.
Power : 225 (+2)
Weight : 108% (1544)
Tyres : R3 F / R2 R
PP : 500
Ride : -25 / -25
Spring : 9 / 8
Damper : 9 / 8
Toe : +20 / +20
Camber : 2.0 / 2.5
Brake : 6 / 5
Max Turn : 35
TC : 1
ABS : 1
1st : 2.851
2nd : 1.803
3rd : 1.330
4th : 1.100
5th : 0.886
6th : 0.767
Final : 5.000
Wow very good indeed!! It's hard to find someone with a good setup for this car. Well since I love this car so much, I've come up with my own setup.....you will probably see some things that are quite the same as yours.
Power : 270 (+27)
Weight : 91% (1301)
Tyres : R3 F / R2 R
PP : 500
Ride : -25 / -20
Spring : 8 / 10
Damper : 8/ 10
Toe : +20 / +20
Camber : 2.0 / 2.0
Brake : 2 / 4
Max Turn : 40
TC : Off
ABS : 1
1st : 2.851
2nd : 1.803
3rd : 1.330
4th : 1.100
5th : 0.886
6th : 0.767
Final : 4.098
This setup for me works great and it's really good for this track since it's so tight and plus you get the speed in the straightway!!
No it's not, as I said just before Maza isn't American because some of the profits / losses get syphoned off / written off by a seperate company based elsewhere. If I go to work for a French company am I suddenly French even though I'm British. No your nationality is where you are from, not who you work for. Ford USA and Ford Europe are seperate compnaies that both lie under the Ford Motor Co umberella alongside Mazda and others.
Irrelevent.
No I'm not, if I work for an American, I do not become American too. It is where you are from that counts.Sorry to bleat on about this but this is just plain wrong. I think you are confusing nationality with company ownership.
Ford Motor Co owns Ford Europe, they also own Ford USA, they also own Mazda and Vovlo.You might think ford Europe and Ford US are two seperate companies but please tell me who owns Ford Europe?
No, but Ford USA staff can't lay For dEurope staff off either. Ford Motor Co can, Ford USA can't. Ford Motor Co and Ford USA are different. Ford USA is the company that produces, sells and manages the cars in the American produciton line, Ford Motor Co is the unmbrella organisation that controls all the companies within thier portfolio, inclusing both Ford USA and ford Europe.And my point who orders workers to be laid off has EVERYTHING to do with it. You think Ford europe could lay Ford US staff off?
First of all it's mate not m8. Secondly no, who you work for does not change where you come from. It works on a business level. Infiniti is an American comapny that is part of Nissan's corporation, Lexus is an American company that under Toyota's ownership.No of course not but it can the other way around because Ford is the Parent company. To have a British Company it has to be British owned, thats law m8.
No, British Gas was setup in Britain, therefore it is British..Take for example the UK's enrgy suppliers, only one is British, Southern Energy. British Gas is German.
I'm not saying it is where the cars are built, if that was the case then a lot of companies would be multinational. I am not saying it is where the cars are built, if I was saying that I'd be saying Ford Europe were British and Honda were British but neither are, Honda is Japanese and Ford Europe is German.And Rolls Royce are no longer a Brit company, it doesn't matter where the cars are built it is who owns it.
Proof that you don't understand what I am saying, it is not where the companies cars are built, nor is it where the comapny operates or may have ofice and plants, nor is it which umbrella corporation owns it or established it, it is where the comapny is setup. If I setup a company in America that company is American, regardless of the fact that I am British. If I then setup another three companies in Italy, Japan and Australia thoes three companies are Italian, Japanese and Autralian. I can then create an umbrella corporation based in England that holds thoes first four companes within it's portfolio, but only the umbrella corporation is English. The 4 comapnies within it are still American, Italian, Japanese and Australian respectively.You seem to be saying that if Honda used Honda UK that would make them British, hahahaha don't think so.
No, there's are no major car manufacturers owned by British companies anymore but there are still major British car manufacturers. Comapies like Jaguar, Land Rover and Aston Martin are still British.There are no major Car manufacturers anymore that are Britsh, that is a fact just a few performance ones like Morgan I think.
No it's not, what I said was a general rule. I am English, if I go to work in America for an American company I will still be English.PS Your nationality argument is wrong as well, I regard myself as English but I was born in Cyprus are you saying that I'm a Cypriot? I think the RAF would want a word if you do, lol