Ford GT Tuning (speed)

[///M5_POWER]

Ok i have searched but cannot find a good tuning/setting for the FORD GT to compete in the Pro Supercar Festival. I keep retuning mine and its still acting up, mabe should leave traction on..

Everytime i slam on the brakes, the car loses control and spins out.

The Gearing for first and second is not working very well, jumps into redline and burns out causing the car not too move/launch very fast.

I am a complete noob at this game, but know my cars/ tuning..but my knowledge is not helping me in this game.

Mods, Please do not Lock this thread, i really need some help from experts..

Keep the advice coming guys!

 

[mustangGT90210]

Well turning up the TCS will help to a point, but I suggest leaving it off. Just tune 2nd to be a taller gear and you should be a little better.

 

[Austin343]

If you have wheelspin on a GT in second gear, then you probably have a bunch of power loaded on it, unless you're on a very bumpy track. The same advice is given to people having problems winning the Gran Turismo World Championship; adding a Stage 4 turbo to a Minolta Toyota 88C-V will only exacerbate control problems, so take the added power off, and if you can't keep up with the opponents, putting on some racing tires will almost certainly help a lot with corner speed and you should be able to win. Remember to be smooth with your throttle/steering inputs, too. And by the way, GT4 is pretty notorious for its settings affecting the car in ways completely unlike real life. You need to experiment with each setting in the game to have any idea what it will do to the car's handling.

 

[///M5_POWER]

Yea i'd rather leave TC off. The problem here is the amount of low end torque this car has with the Mods causing it to wheelspin a lot and have a very sensetive steering do to its traction control unit & the limited slip setup.

I just need to car to be more stable and calm in order to complete these races. Right now, the car just feels straight up like a drift animal..

Need a lot more advice guys! thank you

 

[///M5_POWER]

If you have wheelspin on a GT in second gear, then you probably have a bunch of power loaded on it, unless you're on a very bumpy track. The same advice is given to people having problems winning the Gran Turismo World Championship; adding a Stage 4 turbo to a Minolta Toyota 88C-V will only exacerbate control problems, so take the added power off, and if you can't keep up with the opponents, putting on some racing tires will almost certainly help a lot with corner speed and you should be able to win. Remember to be smooth with your throttle/steering inputs, too. And by the way, GT4 is pretty notorious for its settings affecting the car in ways completely unlike real life. You need to experiment with each setting in the game to have any idea what it will do to the car's handling.

Great info man! I will try to take more power off, and focus more on adjusting suspention and braking in order to gain back the distance i lose on the straights. Feel free to give me more input on the tuning of this game! thanks

 

[Austin343]

Oh, you'll have to figure the tuning out yourself; that's the part of the game I'm clueless at. I just know it's unrealistic. I just learn how to drive the cars and figure out their handling as they come, which is what I love about GT4. Tuning is a great way to go, too, though, and that's certainly a good way to win races. But if all else fails and you simply cannot win Supercar Festival, try taking the GT to any track in Arcade Mode (time trial) and do laps, continually trying to better your times. That's a great way to familiarize yourself with the car and get better at the game so you don't need the supercharger or whatever to beat those slow AI drivers.

 

[///M5_POWER]

Oh, you'll have to figure the tuning out yourself; that's the part of the game I'm clueless at. I just know it's unrealistic. I just learn how to drive the cars and figure out their handling as they come, which is what I love about GT4. Tuning is a great way to go, too, though, and that's certainly a good way to win races. But if all else fails and you simply cannot win Supercar Festival, try taking the GT to any track in Arcade Mode (time trial) and do laps, continually trying to better your times. That's a great way to familiarize yourself with the car and get better at the game so you don't need the supercharger or whatever to beat those slow AI drivers.

I noticed in GT4 a lot of cars drive similar to how they would in real like (I tested the ones i have driven in real life) But the tuning is for sure different in the game by far. I am just going to keep tuning the GT and practice laps with it..but again, more info would be great!

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Besides tuning issues, it also sounds like you haven't mastered the art of modulation yet. Sounds like you're jamming on the throttle as you leave corners, and then jamming on the brakes (causing you to spin) as you enter them.

To some extent, you'll have to start learning to ease in that throttle, and start braking earlier and not so abrubtly. Like give partial throttle and partial brakes, before fully appying either.

HTH 👍

 

[///M5_POWER]

Besides tuning issues, it also sounds like you haven't mastered the art of modulation yet. Sounds like you're jamming on the throttle as you leave corners, and then jamming on the brakes (causing you to spin) as you enter them.

To some extent, you'll have to start learning to ease in that throttle, and start braking earlier and not so abrubtly. Like give partial throttle and partial brakes, before fully appying either.

HTH 👍

I understand what your saying, but i am not one of those people who just jams on the throttle and slams on the brakes before cornering and just "forces" the car through the turn and jams the throttle on the way out..I do autoXing with my bmw e60 m a few times a year (real life) and also have with my previous cars and i am by no means a noob driver. Abviously it is much simpler on the controller. But I'd say i drive pretty well in the game because of knowing the logics of real life racing and am familiar with tracks and have experience, but abviously i am not even close to some of the GT4 experts on this board.

That's the reason i am asking for advice on how i can improve my tuning instead of my driving. Thanks for your input tho

More help would be great!

 

[PF]

Are you using DS2? (Standard PS2 controller) If so, you've gotta use analogue controls and Auto transmission to have any chance of a good time. That's part of the reason I suck so hard at the game; I dont have the time to remember how to use MT, and I don't have the money to get a DFP.

Also, have you used tranny trick? It's a great way to get the most out of a smaller engine.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I understand what your saying, but i am not one of those people who just jams on the throttle and slams on the brakes before cornering and just "forces" the car through the turn and jams the throttle on the way out..I do autoXing with my bmw e60 m a few times a year (real life) and also have with my previous cars and i am by no means a noob driver. Abviously it is much simpler on the controller. But I'd say i drive pretty well in the game because of knowing the logics of real life racing and am familiar with tracks and have experience, but abviously i am not even close to some of the GT4 experts on this board.

That's the reason i am asking for advice on how i can improve my tuning instead of my driving. Thanks for your input tho

...my mistake.

 

[mafia_boy]

Are you using DS2? (Standard PS2 controller) If so, you've gotta use analogue controls and Auto transmission to have any chance of a good time. That's part of the reason I suck so hard at the game; I dont have the time to remember how to use MT, and I don't have the money to get a DFP.

I can't understand how some of you guys cannot accelerate or brake smoothly WITHOUT resorting to the analog sticks. The DS2 buttons are pressure sensitive so you just press softly on the buttons, not mash them!! It's a little bit harder to get it perfect but once it is, it makes things a lot more pleasurable. 👍
Although I'm guilty of mashing buttons through the control when I'm trying to hold off 600hp of Zonda with 270hp of Silvia in Family Cup +10!!

Also, have you used tranny trick? It's a great way to get the most out of a smaller engine.

Tranny trick works well when you want the most super-close ratios you can think of, be it for drag or top speed.

Back to topic, check out MFT, they have a Ford GT setup somewhere, Leo or Greycap can point it out. 👍

 

[Dark Elite]

Everytime i slam on the brakes, the car loses control and spins out.
The Gearing for first and second is not working very well, jumps into redline and burns out causing the car not too move/launch very fast.

I sympathise entirely with Parnelli Bone's post, in fact, he beat me to it. I'm sure you understand that this does read rather like the post of someone who has very little understanding of cars and physics, and drives by 'bucket inputs' rather than fine control.

As mafia_boy says, the DS2 is a perfectly useable tool for GT4, anyone who says otherwise just has lead thumbs

DE

 

[Skygrasper550]

Are you using DS2? (Standard PS2 controller) If so, you've gotta use analogue controls and Auto transmission to have any chance of a good time. That's part of the reason I suck so hard at the game; I dont have the time to remember how to use MT, and I don't have the money to get a DFP.

you don't need a DFP to play better or become a better player in GT4, just the DS2 will do..,, why use Auto?? it's very easy to use MT in a DS2 once you get the hang of it, just practice 👍..,

Also, have you used tranny trick? It's a great way to get the most out of a smaller engine.

the Ford GT has a V10 engine. you call that small??


@ ///M5_POWER - you're having problems on your Ford GT?? remove the FC Transmission. yes, leave the gears in stock.., 👍

 

[mafia_boy]

the Ford GT has a V10 engine.

FAIL!! It's a Supercharged V8.

 

[Skygrasper550]

^dang, i got it mixed up with the Saleen S7..,

 

[Adamgp]

^dang, i got it mixed up with the Saleen S7..,

Saleen S7 has a 427 cu in V8.

 

[Skygrasper550]

Saleen S7 has a 427 cu in V8.

darn it!! i have got to fire up my GT4 CD again! Armored Core : Last Raven and NFS : Carbon keep me from playing GT4..,

 

[sukerkin]

And by the way, GT4 is pretty notorious for its settings affecting the car in ways completely unlike real life. You need to experiment with each setting in the game to have any idea what it will do to the car's handling.

This is the only bit of Austin's advice I don't completely agree with.

There have been many lengthy studies done on this board alone which have shown that the tuning system within the game has simplifications, has a front-end bias and is affected by the limitating 'stops' which prevent your rolling a car.

It is also the case that some models in the game have been quite considerably 'nerfed' (especially if they aren't made by Nissan but are made by famed suspension specialists Lotus it seems ) but you can overcome most problems by sorting out the basic balance of the car before moving on to tweaking the corner-handling characteristics. Once the general balance is sorted, most changes behave exactly as you would expect them too (within the uncertainty that is the Black Magic of suspension tuning ).

I've been meaning to have a crack at dialing in the various GT40 models for a long time, I just keep getting distracted by other projects. Which specific model is the one under discourse here? I'll take a look at it if I get the chance in the next day or two and see what I can spanner out.

However, I'm not sure but I think I recall Scaff having some good advice on taming the snap-oversteer of the Ford GT. Perhaps a search using his username and a few choice key-words might dig up some mechanical gems?

 

[Skygrasper550]

There have been many lengthy studies done on this board alone which have shown that the tuning system within the game has simplifications, has a front-end bias and is affected by the limitating 'stops' which prevent your rolling a car.

i agree, all cars have even a slight bit of understeer in them..,

It is also the case that some models in the game have been quite considerably 'nerfed' (especially if they aren't made by Nissan but are made by famed suspension specialists Lotus it seems ) but you can overcome most problems by sorting out the basic balance of the car before moving on to tweaking the corner-handling characteristics. Once the general balance is sorted, most changes behave exactly as you would expect them too (within the uncertainty that is the Black Magic of suspension tuning ).

what's "nerfed" ???

However, I'm not sure but I think I recall Scaff having some good advice on taming the snap-oversteer of the Ford GT. Perhaps a search using his username and a few choice key-words might dig up some mechanical gems?

that's what I said, leaving your gears in stock will help correct that snap-oversteer the Ford GT has.., 👍

 

[sukerkin]

"Nerfed" is a slang term meaning "nobbled", "hamstrung", "weakened", "Made to artifically be worse than it should be"

I certainly concur with the advice on the gearbox - was that the point that Scaff raised that I'm remembering? I thought there was more?

 

[Skygrasper550]

"Nerfed" is a slang term meaning "nobbled", "hamstrung", "weakened", "Made to artifically be worse than it should be"

oh, i see, thanks for the info..,

I certainly concur with the advice on the gearbox - was that the point that Scaff raised that I'm remembering? I thought there was more?

yes, it is.., that can be found in his Tuning Guide Part 2..,

no, i think that was all, as far as i can remember.., i downloaded and read his 2 tuning guides..,

 

[Kurei]

Well if your not having luck with your GT, there are some Tuners around here who have gotten their hands on one of their own and produced a excellent tuner out of it

I know that MFT has one, and with an decent driver behind it, should be capable of winning the Pro Car championship as long as they drive with caution and don't push it beyond it's limits

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2978577&postcount=1827

Other than that, If you want to go the cheap way (as in kinda cheat)....

There's always R5's and GT Wings

 

[mafia_boy]

NFS : Carbon keep me from playing GT4..,

Welcome to 2006. Population = You.

Geez, atleast get NFS: Pro Street!! Carbon was a washed up version of NFSU2 in my opinion. But that's for another thread. 👍

 

[///M5_POWER]

Are you using DS2? (Standard PS2 controller) If so, you've gotta use analogue controls and Auto transmission to have any chance of a good time. That's part of the reason I suck so hard at the game; I dont have the time to remember how to use MT, and I don't have the money to get a DFP.

Also, have you used tranny trick? It's a great way to get the most out of a smaller engine.

I do use the Ds2 and i do use analog, but i do not use Auto transmission (millions of reasons)

What's a tranny trick and a V8 in the Ford Gt is not a small engine.

...my mistake.

Didn't mean anything by my post btw, no worries.

I can't understand how some of you guys cannot accelerate or brake smoothly WITHOUT resorting to the analog sticks. The DS2 buttons are pressure sensitive so you just press softly on the buttons, not mash them!! It's a little bit harder to get it perfect but once it is, it makes things a lot more pleasurable. 👍
Although I'm guilty of mashing buttons through the control when I'm trying to hold off 600hp of Zonda with 270hp of Silvia in Family Cup +10!!


Tranny trick works well when you want the most super-close ratios you can think of, be it for drag or top speed.

Back to topic, check out MFT, they have a Ford GT setup somewhere, Leo or Greycap can point it out. 👍

I tried the Tuning by MFT, i didn't feel it very usefull, i might give it a try again tho.

I sympathise entirely with Parnelli Bone's post, in fact, he beat me to it. I'm sure you understand that this does read rather like the post of someone who has very little understanding of cars and physics, and drives by 'bucket inputs' rather than fine control.

As mafia_boy says, the DS2 is a perfectly useable tool for GT4, anyone who says otherwise just has lead thumbs

DE

yup. haha

you don't need a DFP to play better or become a better player in GT4, just the DS2 will do..,, why use Auto?? it's very easy to use MT in a DS2 once you get the hang of it, just practice 👍..,

the Ford GT has a V10 engine. you call that small??


@ ///M5_POWER - you're having problems on your Ford GT?? remove the FC Transmission. yes, leave the gears in stock.., 👍

If i leave the grearing in stock ratios, what does removing the FC have to do with anything?

And the ford has a S/ced V8 and not a v10 btw.

This is the only bit of Austin's advice I don't completely agree with.

There have been many lengthy studies done on this board alone which have shown that the tuning system within the game has simplifications, has a front-end bias and is affected by the limitating 'stops' which prevent your rolling a car.

It is also the case that some models in the game have been quite considerably 'nerfed' (especially if they aren't made by Nissan but are made by famed suspension specialists Lotus it seems ) but you can overcome most problems by sorting out the basic balance of the car before moving on to tweaking the corner-handling characteristics. Once the general balance is sorted, most changes behave exactly as you would expect them too (within the uncertainty that is the Black Magic of suspension tuning ).

I've been meaning to have a crack at dialing in the various GT40 models for a long time, I just keep getting distracted by other projects. Which specific model is the one under discourse here? I'll take a look at it if I get the chance in the next day or two and see what I can spanner out.

However, I'm not sure but I think I recall Scaff having some good advice on taming the snap-oversteer of the Ford GT. Perhaps a search using his username and a few choice key-words might dig up some mechanical gems?

thanks man!

Well if your not having luck with your GT, there are some Tuners around here who have gotten their hands on one of their own and produced a excellent tuner out of it

I know that MFT has one, and with an decent driver behind it, should be capable of winning the Pro Car championship as long as they drive with caution and don't push it beyond it's limits

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2978577&postcount=1827

Other than that, If you want to go the cheap way (as in kinda cheat)....

There's always R5's and GT Wings

Like i said, im gonna give the MFT tuning a try again. I'll update you guys on that

 

[///M5_POWER]

OOH My bad guys, i messed up.

I meant to say the (GRAND TURISMO WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP) NOT the Supercar Festival..

sorry guys..


So is there any hope for the Ford GT to even come close in the Grand Turismo world Championship?

 

[Parnelli Bone]

OOH My bad guys, i messed up.

I meant to say the (GRAND TURISMO WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP) NOT the Supercar Festival..

sorry guys..


So is there any hope for the Ford GT to even come close in the Grand Turismo world Championship?

Oh jeez... yeah the GTWC is a whole different ballgame than the Supercar Fest (which is not nearly as challenging as i'd thought it would be).

 

[Austin343]

Yeah, that's way, way different. You probably need a full-fledged race car to compete in GTWC. Unless you use the most power possible on the Ford GT (and you must put racing tires on!), it is quite an unlikely candidate for that set of races. People have trouble with it even in a car equal to the best AI car. So do you have any Le Mans cars at your disposal? Those would work much better, obviously.

 

[Skygrasper550]

Welcome to 2006. Population = You.

Geez, atleast get NFS: Pro Street!! Carbon was a washed up version of NFSU2 in my opinion. But that's for another thread. 👍

i already have ProStreet on my PS2.., and i can tell you one thing: it sucks. the graphics suck, the gameplay sucks.., even though I finished it 100%, it still sucks.., I like Carbon better.., why? it has better graphics and, because of the canyon stages.., :tup:

 

[mafia_boy]

i already have ProStreet on my PS2.., and i can tell you one thing: it sucks. the graphics suck, the gameplay sucks.., even though I finished it 100%, it still sucks.., I like Carbon better.., why? it has better graphics and, because of the canyon stages.., :tup:

And Most Wanted had better features than Carbon, yet that's in my obsolete pile, as will Pro Street be soon.