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Message: [QUOTE="Dresden, post: 11720404, member: 285629"] The point that Breyzipp was trying to make is that Turn 10 makes little baby steps instead of being real innovators in the racing world. And in that regard he is correct. Many times I am playing Forza 3 and I swear the RWD physics and car handling is superior to the modern game. And I have seen little change in the series in many other things- Career mode, baked lighting on tracks, lack of new game engine, ffb, liveries, tuning / upgrading, dynamic weather etc. Forza 7 is a huge moment for Turn 10. Horizon has great metacritic scores and is moving way ahead of the US boys across the pond. The fans should scream from the mountains if the game does not improve in the key areas. The have now released the same game 4 times in a row, and that cannot continue when many other games now offer more. [/QUOTE]