**Fossil Fuels**

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**Oil supplies**

  • No worries..

    Votes: 3 20.0%
  • Yes worries it's all over in the east and we're probably going to war plus it is damaging to the env

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • I don't give a damn..

    Votes: 6 40.0%

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I heard some statistic the other day that we'll be able to run our cars :car: for at least another 100 years :clock:. Now these predictions :magnify: are always wrong so I reckon take off maybe 25yrs to include oil spillages etc...say 75 overall?

Environmentalists will still winge but hey they can go plant some trees and then just let us carry on as normal?

And we'll all be dead by the time in runs out so hey why worry?
 
Well, I think pollution and traffic issues will put paid to the petrol engine before the oil runs out.

Some food for thought - if oil runs out, how will we power airliners?
 
It depends on the methods of extraction, I think according to my geography studies. We have only extracted a small amount of the worlds oil. As extraction methods become better, we will be able to go deeper and get more oil. Something like that anyway.

Although id rather see some other type of fuel being used. Natural gas, hydrogen etc.
 
The issue will be the cost - as oil gets harder to find, it will become more expensive, to the point that eventually other types of fuel will become more economic than petrol.
 
Well then we will just have to start using alternate fuel sources, I have nothing against that. AS long as my car goes and the fuel is relatively cheap to buy im not particularly bothered.
 
Originally posted by Race Idiot
and the fuel is relatively cheap to buy ....

...relative to, hmmm...,say, illegal plutonium?

The thing is, as volume increases for the replacement, be that hydrogen or whatever, it will get cheaper as economies of scale - there'll be a bit of pain through the transition process, though.
 
Transition, do you mean as in basically everyone having to convert to the new fuel type and then having to install equiptment to refine the stuff and then having to ship it to customers (or companies, well you know what I mean).
 
Originally posted by Race Idiot
Transition, do you mean as in basically everyone having to convert to the new fuel type and then having to install equiptment to refine the stuff and then having to ship it to customers (or companies, well you know what I mean).

Yup - got it in one - there'll be a 5 - 10 year changeover period.
 
Does oil not come from carbon-based life forms?

Does it stand to reason that as long as there are carbon-based life forms such as humans dying on Earth, we will never run out of fossil fuels? Screw those predictions. We've got an infinite amount of time.
 
But the amount of time that it takes your rotting corpse to turn into oil, we probably wont even exist. It takes a long time for that process to happen.
 
Trust me we extract it too quickly and it develops really slowly.

Yeah right its not going to run out.
 
We need a process to speed it up.

If we can invent something as worthless and pathetic as the Insight, we can invent a speeder-up process.
 
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FACT

· Deaths per year resulted from alcohol: 100,000
· Deaths per year resulted from tobacco: 430,000
· Deaths per year resulted from aspirin: 180- 1000
· Deaths per year resulted from legal drugs: 106,000
· Deaths that have ever occurred in result from Cannabis: 0 (that’s right zero)

FACT

· Farming 6% of the continental U.S. acreage with biomass crops (Hemp) would provide all of America’s Energy needs.
· Biomass can be converted into methane, methanol, or gasoline (which could eliminate our ties with the Middle East) at a cost comparable to petroleum and hemp is much better for the environment.
· Hemp fuel burns clean. Petroleum causes acid rain due to sulfur pollution.
· The use of Hemp Fuel does not contribute to global warming

FACT

· Hemp seed can be pressed into nutritious oil, which contains the highest amount of fatty acids in the plant kingdom. Essential oils are responsible for our immune system responses, and can clear the arteries of cholesterol and plaque.
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FACT

· Hemp is the oldest cultivated fiber plant in the world.
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· Hemp paper can be recycled 7 times, wood pulp 4 times.
· Hemp particleboard may be up to 2 times stronger than wood particleboard and holds nails better.
· Hemp is a softer, warmer, and more water absorbent, than cotton and doesn’t stretch out.
· Half of the U.S. pesticides are used to treat cotton, while hemp has a natural pesticide.

FACT

· Almost any product that can be made from wood, cotton, or petroleum (including plastics) can be made from hemp. There are 25,000 known uses for hemp.
· For thousands of years virtually all good paints and varnishes were made with hemp seed oil and/or linseed oil.
· One acre of hemp produces as much cellulose fiber pulp as 4.1 acres of trees, making hemp a perfect material to replace trees for pressed board, particle board, and concrete construction molds.
· Heating and compressing plant fibers can create a practical, inexpensive, fire-resistant constructions material with excellent thermal and sound-insulating qualities.
· In 1941 Henry Ford built a plastic car made of fiber from hemp and wheat straw. Hemp is biodegradable, as synthetic plastic is not.

FACT

· Presidents Washington and Jefferson both grew hemp. Americans were legally bound to grow hemp during the Colonial Era and Early Republic.
 
dispite all those uses, the #1 use if pot is legalized will be sitting around all day getting blazed and eating cheetos while listening to phish. damn hippies.
 
Originally posted by dredknot_420
. Deaths that have ever occurred in result from Cannabis: 0 (that’s right zero)
· Hemp fuel burns clean. Petroleum causes acid rain due to sulfur pollution.
· The use of Hemp Fuel does not contribute to global warming

Whilst I agree that hemp as a commercial product is very underused (it is a much more efficient source of paper and textiles than traditional plants) I would debate these three items.

No deaths?
- we're now seeing that smoking hemp is as, if not more, harmful than smoking tobacco
- we're also seeing some evidence that smoking hemp contributes to depression - if so, then there's a link to suicide

Also, whilst not debating the acid rain point, I was under the impression that any burning of a bio-source gave rise to gasses associated with global warming.
 
heh.
Bring on the tree-hugging hippie era. Bill can be out leader. Will smoke pot and listen to 70s records in reverse. And we'll flyyyyy everywhere. Smoke signals..death to the telephone. It'll be great.

On a more serious note, yes. There is a lot more oil to go. Don't worry just yet.
 
I heard you can run a diesel on Used or new cooking oil legally plus a small portion of another liquid (can't remember what).

It'd be very cheap when you fill in some new tax forms and visit your local fish and chip shop weekly :lol:

So even without the new technology there's scope for many alternatives it seems? :magnify:

And Hydrogen has already been proven just a matter of making it safe and equipment cheap :2cents: A :ford: focus somewhere in the :USA: has been converted for experimental purposes but cost around 2 million..mmmm

What's are those fuels they use in drag racing?

But even though I find all this alternative fuel stuff interesting I don't think it needs to be implemented for another 50yrs at least when what we've got works and there's quite abit left?
 
i saw a Discovery Channel special on these 2 college guys building a '73 VW bus engine to accept vegetable grease as fuel and drive in across America as a science project. the thing broke every 20 miles (Volkswagen, go figure), but they got it across the country.
then there's this commerical i'm seeing more and more of publicizing some corn-based gasoling alternative...the future looks weird.
 
Originally posted by j2s
i saw a Discovery Channel special on these 2 college guys building a '73 VW bus engine to accept vegetable grease as fuel and drive in across America as a science project. the thing broke every 20 miles (Volkswagen, go figure), but they got it across the country.
then there's this commerical i'm seeing more and more of publicizing some corn-based gasoling alternative...the future looks weird.

Wow good experiment :magnify:

Though the future looks weird it looks good in that we can keep our autos :car: running on the produce of a field :lol: if the scientists don't figure up anything good..:D

wazzuuup

I think it's 107 octane fuel. Either that or its methanol.

Yea methanol that's what I heard the commentator say, so what's it do better than ordinary petrol?
 
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