Fuel usage in GT4...

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The threads are becoming so large now that getting a response is highly unlikely. Also, of course, I did search, but didn't come up with any recent info.

All I would like to know is, with fuel usage obviously implemented in GT4, just how is it implemented?

I'm going to assume that it will be like GT3, and the tire wear, so that only long-ish races (in particular, endurance races) will have fuel usage a factor in GT4.

However, what I would really like to know is, from those who have GT4 already, how does the fuel consumption differ from, let's say, a small econobox, to a full blown race car, in GT4? Do all of the cars just gradually decrease the amount of fuel in the tank, until you have to fuel up, or does it depend on the type of engine in use? (for example, a V8 using more fuel than an I4).

Thanks :)
 
The fuel gauge is always there working regardless of what kind of races you are in. It is the same as a real life gauge - it shows graphically in bars how much fuel is left in the tank. So it is really hard to tell how much more fuel a race modded car would use as compared to an econobox - it is all relative to the size of the fuel tank. I guess you have to back to back the cars and run them till dry to discern the difference in consumption. (You can also tell when you pit in and fuel up as there is a bar showing you the amount of fuel in the tank as it gets replenished. But you have to catch the figure before they start topping it up.)

In the shorter races you just ignore it. In the longer races I give it a glance every now and then to project how many laps I can do in a stint on that load.

And so far I have not figured out how to choose fuel load before a race, so I don't think it is an option.
 
jctg
And so far I have not figured out how to choose fuel load before a race, so I don't think it is an option.
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Thank you very much for your info :)
That was actually going to be my next question.
jctg
But you have to catch the figure before they start topping it up
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Could you please elaborate on this? I'm not quite sure I understand what you are trying to say :)
 
He means it shows the # of liters remaining in the tank, then they start to fill it up so the number changes...

so you hasve to be quick to see the original number.


Well that's how I understand it.
 
RotorPower
He means it shows the # of liters remaining in the tank, then they start to fill it up so the number changes...

so you hasve to be quick to see the original number.


Well that's how I understand it.
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Ahhh, thanks :)
 
I don't think this has been asked. when the fuel load decreases does it make a differance to the performance. ie changes the handling because change in weight balance. increase in acceleration as the car gets lighter. just thinking as the average small saloon will have around a 50kg weight differance between a full tank and an empty one. an f1 car will be neary 150kg's differant.

Jase.
 
barmyclown
I don't think this has been asked. when the fuel load decreases does it make a differance to the performance. ie changes the handling because change in weight balance. increase in acceleration as the car gets lighter. just thinking as the average small saloon will have around a 50kg weight differance between a full tank and an empty one. an f1 car will be neary 150kg's differant.

Jase.
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Haha, no, GT4 is not THAT real.
 
Barmyclown even if that is implimented I think that it would be hard to tell. Unless you can pick your fuel load which it sounds like you can't I can't imagine a way to notice the seconds that you would save from lap to lap. And credit it to the gas.
 
if you're in a Le Mans car w/ 900+ps spraying left and right, you will see more fuel consumption in 5 laps of tokyo R246 (or whatever that circuit name is) than in 5 laps with a stock FD3S
 
1twojay
Haha, no, GT4 is not THAT real.
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In that case, its a completely worthless feature.

Simply becuase you will not need fuel before tires (well, you shouldent at least).

If the fuel load doesnt effect the handling in transitions from weight transfer, and acceleration from weight overall, then wahts the point? :boggled:
 
MelloBoy
no
can't change oil
you can change tires AND Tire types (racing soft, racing super soft, street, etc)
you can refuel
that's it
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I'm mad you cant change the oil which I can understand but I'm happy that you can change the tire type. I hope you can change like frong, back seperatly.
 
Someone should work out how long (in laps) it takes to go empty at the ring endurence race and then restart the race and do like a 60km/h cruise around the ring and see if you can last longer (ie drive more laps) going slower before you go empty.

Now there is a worthwhile experiment. To figure out if driving style is related to fuel consumption. Anyone??? :)
 
What the hell? Mad because you can't change the oil in the pits?

Dude, jacking up the car, removing the oilpan, draining everything, and then putting it all back together would take forever!
 
There was a problem in the GT3 series where the oil would not be refilled during the series, i.e. between races. Is this still the case?
 
I read somewhere that this has been changed...

I think it was in the Nurburgring 24H thread.

C.
 
I think all the new features that are included in GT4 should be specified on the booklet. Thinks like the inclusion of flamage (backfire), etc etc.

That way, we know all the features that PD tried so hard to put in.

How awesome would it be to see fuel consumption differences in GT4. The racing stratergies that would develop to reduce the time spend in the pics (like shifting 1000rpm lower etc etc).

Reminds me of Bathurst 2003 (Aussie Enduro race).
 
Ten
What the hell? Mad because you can't change the oil in the pits?

Dude, jacking up the car, removing the oilpan, draining everything, and then putting it all back together would take forever!
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They change the oil, among many other things during pitstops in real 24 hour races, you know. I remember watching the 2000 24 hours of Le Mans, and Audi changed the ENTIRE REAR END of the R8 (I'm talking engine, gearbox, differential, etc) in under 10 minutes. That is not very long at all. Keep in mind, pitstops in 24 hour races are anything BUT quick. They change drivers, and many other things during those stops, so a stop of 1 or 2 minutes is not out of the ordinary.
I really do hope that you can change oil in the pits in an endurance race, because let's look at this, for example.
The Nurburgring is 22 km in length. Consider that, with a quick endurance car, the average time will be around 6 minutes per lap. The race is 24 hours long, so the car you are driving will cover roughly 240 laps in the race (24 hours X 60 = 1440 minutes / 6 minutes = 240 laps) so that is roughly 5280 km that you will be covering in one 24 hour race at the Nurburgring.
You can clearly see the need to change oil during an endurance race now. Let's say your oil goes bad every 150 miles like it did in GT3, that engine will be a steaming pile of cast aluminum at the end of that race, and will have a severe loss in power afterwards.
 
Ten
What the hell? Mad because you can't change the oil in the pits?

Dude, jacking up the car, removing the oilpan, draining everything, and then putting it all back together would take forever!
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I'm mad you cant change the oil which I can understand...

Thats what I said in my original quote. I know it would take a while so I understand why your not allowed to do it in a race. I just hate taking a car on the track and perminatly loosing HP cause of overused oil. Now that I think of it, they should of had over haul in this game, fix every thing up.
 

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