G25 clutching vs dfpgt

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I have a question. Can I turn off the red bar when changing gears on my dfpgt? I know that you can switch to clutch mode with the G25. On a replay I saw it seems when you clutch you lose less speed with that wheel then the dfpgt. It seems a little unfair. Does this mean I have to get G25 just to reduce my lap times?:grumpy:
 
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I have a question. Can I turn off the red bar when changing gears on my dfpgt? I know that you can switch to clutch mode with the G25. On a replay I saw it seems when you clutch you lose less speed with that wheel then the dfpgt. It seems a little unfair. Does this mean I have to get G25 just to reduce my lap times?:grumpy:
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No ,you just have to become a faster driver...:sly:


Some of the worlds fastest timetrail times are done without clutch...so yes you can get a bit faster "cheating " with the clutch,but this doesn't meen you will automaticly beat everyone who doesn't...:)




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Yeah, even so the clutching makes (IMO) a significant advantage. Every second counts even if im not the best driver in the world. Id be happy with even a mere .500 of a second difference every lap time because those seconds add up throughout the lap. Not only that but i think the G25 wheel probably feels better anyways. I assume you have better control yet with that wheel.
 
spyrrari
...so yes you can get a bit faster "cheating " with the clutch,.
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I would like to see you use the clutch full time then come back and tell me you're cheating. It's much more work with much more risk. It isn't uncommon to miss shift and you loose waaaay more time than you could ever have gained.

I have done many races testing the difference in times with both and now especially without the ability to flatshift you gain a very small amount on a clean run (that took much more pedal dancing to achieve). Not to mention you can't left foot brake in many corners which often is a advantage.
 
I drove very much Timetrials in GT5P. Over 160 i think. I hold 44 Worldrecords or something. at the moment Some Records i hold with clutch, some i hold without clutch, and some i hold with clutch mod (dsg mod).

YES, definetely its an advantage to drive with clutch, BUT at first u need the skills to handle the clutch.
It´s not as easy as it seems. Clutch driving also got disadvantages: 1st is, u cant break with the left foot, because u need your left foot for clutch pressing. 2nd sometimes u will miss gears if u change the gears too fast.
so what happend if you are on a good lap and you miss one gear? u are ****ed :sly:.

the best thing on paddle driving is, u have always 2 hands on your wheel ... and u have autothrottle while downshifting. with clutch u need to do heel/toe technique - its hard to perform, but its possible. i have done all of my clutch times with heel/toe.

the time advantage per lap is hard to say overall. it depends always on the combo - car and track.
example: with the f430 on suzuka u have very much shifting processes per lap. my best lap with paddles was a 02:10:190 or something... and my current best with clutch is a 02:09:960. the difference is about 2-3 tenths per lap.

on london is the clutch more or less a bit of a handicap. the course is very tight and short... u have not really much shifting processes there, so not a big time advantage.
 

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