G27 - Should I Take The Plunge?

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I have used GT3,G27 and DFGT in GT5 and G27 is still my favorite wheel. G27 helical gears is better DFGT standard gears. G27 wheel has leather which I like better than GT3 suede which is a little harder to keep clean. I like G27 paddles better than the other two. So there are more reasons to prefer G27 over DFGT than just the h-shifter (IMO better than Fanatec loud plastic shifters) and clutch.

Clutch pedal is the least used item on the G27. Gt5 like most sims doesn't take advantage of a clutch which you could easily assign it to a button rather than a pedal. I mostly used the h-shifter without pressing the clutch.
 
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ive got a broken g25,packed in just before gt5 came out(wont turn car ingame)its over 3/4 years old now,emailed logitech told them about it and said i was lookin at getting a new g27,guy came back to me with a 50% discount code,thought great i'll get it now,but i also had a 20% discount code i got from the trade in old product...i tryed both code's and it worked..i am now the pround owner of a new g27 for the price of £99 + i payed £25 for express delivery(2 to 3 working days)..ordered wedensday night.had in my hand friday 3pm
 
I upgraded from a DFPro to a G27, and it was definitely worth it. Just for GT5 I wouldn't have, but I play on PC too and for those games + GT5 it's worth every bit. Make sure you wait for a sale, G27s when in stock can quite regularly be bought for up to %50 off...

The pedals with the G27 are FAR better than the DFPro/DFGT, to me a better upgrade than the h-Shifter and better paddles.

Easy choice I think, if won't feel guilty afterwards for spending the money on a G27 then go for it, if you will then you probably can't afford it yet so don't buy it or get a cheaper one :P
 
In the end, it's up to you but In my opinion, it's worth it. I got mine for Christmas and am absolutely loving it! However, if you are at Uni and are short on money, you might want to consider the Driving Force GT. Although it obviously isn't as good, it is fully compatible with GT5, for half the price! If you're not hell bent on getting a clutch, this may be the option for you. However, the G27 is still (deep breath) the better wheel. Hope this helps. :)
 
Sounds like you've decided, and that's great, I love my G27... but if I was a little more strapped for cash, I might consider the Fanatec Carrera, which for about half the price includes a clutch and shifter that can be upgraded with Clubsport versions later!
 
Unidos
Why spend money on a steering wheel when your probably going to get bored of this game in a few weeks??
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Uh, because he probably won't. And the incredible amount of control, immersion, and realistic driving experience you get when one buys a wheel is completely worth the price if your even a mild sim racer, simple as that.

If you got bored of the game, sounds like a personal problem ;), haha jk, but seriously since myself and others are even at least mild sim racers you seriously want a good wheel.
 
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Clutch pedal is the least used item on the G27. Gt5 like most sims doesn't take advantage of a clutch which you could easily assign it to a button rather than a pedal. I mostly used the h-shifter without pressing the clutch.
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Uh, GT5 does use the clutch, what do you mean exactly?
 
My mate brought his G27 round this weekend and we compared it to my DFGT.

Here's the summary;

Noise - The G27 is quieter but the DFGT isnt so noisy that you'll hear it above the voume of a TV.
Wheel quality - Not a lot of difference here although the G27 has a nicer feel.
Buttons - The DFGT wins hands down.
Paddle Shifters - The G27s are nicer but the DFGTs are more than sufficient.
Pedals - The G27 is a mile ahead. It's the DFGTs worst feature.
H-Shifter & Clutch - Really really well done but totally pointless in Gran Turismo.

See,...what the G27 does well are the things that you won't really use in Gran Turismo. If you're looking to play other games, especially on the PC, the G27 is worth the money.

If you're only looking to play Gran Turismo then I feel the G27 is a waste.
 
Gunstar
Okay... explain?
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I think he means that if you're constantly grinding, you'll probably use the paddles all the time...

Sure, I use the paddle shifters for most important races, but I love going into arcade or practice mode and running laps with an H shifter just for fun.
 
That's not a "GT5 fail" (of which there are many) that's a "you fail!" :lol:

I still maintain the pedals and shifter alone make the difference in a game like GT5 and are almost necessary. Yes paddles are efficient, easy to use, and kinda cool (!), but there's no excuse for a good old manual gearbox. If you're driving a '66 GT350 with paddles... you're missing the point!
 
Gunstar
Okay... explain?
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The support for the G27 in Gran Turismo 5 is very limited and, in particular, it's a known issue that the clutch works very badly. Reports include the clutch not engaging or disengaging correctly or happening very slowly.

It's not the G27s fault but even those that do use the H-Shifter seem to prefer, on a whole, that it's better without the clutch.

The H-Shifter is a matter of immersion. Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful, and occasionally, when pottering around, I'd love to use one. However, the simple physics of it determine that paddle shifting is faster and more efficient.



The G27 does a lot of things well but GT5 fails to take advantage of it. What the G27 does quite badly, GT5 seems to enthasize.


I'd totally buy one if I played any otehr game where clutch and H-shifter was either mandatory, or offered a real bonus, but £170 or $150 extra for that little immersion factor...it's hard to justify when a DFGT has much better button support.

For me the pedals would be the only thing to drive me to a G27 in GT5.
 
Rylan
The support for the G27 in Gran Turismo 5 is very limited and, in particular, it's a known issue that the clutch works very badly. Reports include the clutch not engaging or disengaging correctly or happening very slowly.
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SIGH...

Take it from a G27 owner and GT5 (pretty much exclusively) player... The G27 clutch works fine. If you can handle a sports car clutch in real life, you can handle the G27 clutch on GT5. And remember, just like the real thing, the higher revving the car, the better your clutch timing needs to be. Take a couple laps, pick a decent car (Mitsu Evo X works well) get the timing down, and you'll be just fine. I haven't gotten to compare it to a GT2 or GT3RSv2 yet, but I can't imagine it's going to work much differently, and the T500RS is still clutch-disabled, maybe after I get to spend some time in manual on one of those wheels I'll feel different.

And I'll admit, when I use a paddle shifting car like a 458 Italia, I'll use paddles, but when I use a classic, I use the stick. Efficiency be dammed, it's all about making it fun!

Finally, remember, it IS a GAME CONTROLLER, so it's not going to be just like the real thing, just a reasonable facsimile of. I can't emphasize that enough.

Now the infamous G27 speed wobble? That's less defendable. =P
 
I think the speed wobble can be defended tbh.
F1 2010 has zero deadzone and zero wobble with pretty good effects.

Supercar challenge, rfactor, LFS and many others.

I think the problem lies with the software but as it's not officially supported can't really moan.
 
Gunstar
Now the infamous G27 speed wobble? That's less defendable. =P
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My fanatec wheel does the exact same thing especially in the X1. Of course a lot of it is due to software as it's link to the g-force meter. It's how Gt5 tries to simulate "weight shifting" in the ffb wheels while in the real world you feel this more through your body and not the wheel. (If you are able to keep the G-force meter dead center you can let go of the G27 and it will stay centered)
 
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What is this, bust my chops day??? Okay, I feel that considering there is no dead zone adjustment, GT5 has excessive speed wobble, and the G27 seems to suffer a little worse than most other wheels. Your mileage may vary of course.
 
Gunstar
SIGH...

Take it from a G27 owner and GT5 (pretty much exclusively) player... The G27 clutch works fine. If you can handle a sports car clutch in real life, you can handle the G27 clutch on GT5.
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It does work fine but as you admit, "efficiency be damned", the stick is mainly about immersion and fun.

Is the extra cash woth that additional fun? I just don't think so.

Use the G27 on a different game and the extra functionality is totally worth it....just not for GT5.
 
Gunstar
SIGH...

Take it from a G27 owner and GT5 (pretty much exclusively) player... The G27 clutch works fine. If you can handle a sports car clutch in real life, you can handle the G27 clutch on GT5. And remember, just like the real thing, the higher revving the car, the better your clutch timing needs to be. Take a couple laps, pick a decent car (Mitsu Evo X works well) get the timing down, and you'll be just fine. I haven't gotten to compare it to a GT2 or GT3RSv2 yet, but I can't imagine it's going to work much differently, and the T500RS is still clutch-disabled, maybe after I get to spend some time in manual on one of those wheels I'll feel different.

And I'll admit, when I use a paddle shifting car like a 458 Italia, I'll use paddles, but when I use a classic, I use the stick. Efficiency be dammed, it's all about making it fun!

Finally, remember, it IS a GAME CONTROLLER, so it's not going to be just like the real thing, just a reasonable facsimile of. I can't emphasize that enough.

Now the infamous G27 speed wobble? That's less defendable. =P
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+1, as someone who drives a significantly powered car with a manual trans as a daily driver, the clutch works just fine if you shift it like a real car instead of like you're trying to rip the transmission off the mounts. 👍
 
Rylan
It does work fine but as you admit, "efficiency be damned", the stick is mainly about immersion and fun.

Is the extra cash woth that additional fun? I just don't think so.

Use the G27 on a different game and the extra functionality is totally worth it....just not for GT5.
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Ummmm... okay.

I think the stick shifter, better pedals, actual paddles (not buttons) and quieter operation of the G27 is well worth the extra expense. YMMV of course.

So at the end of the day, GT5 somehow takes advantage of EVERY SINGLE G27 feature somehow. So it works fine for GT5. Are there better wheels? Yes! Are there worse? Sure! But it DOES work, despite not being an official PS3 wheel, and that's pretty cool.
 
G27 works great. The only thing you can't do is map the buttons (minor inconvenience) - I've read that PD will make that happen though.

the clutch works just fine if you shift it like a real car instead of like you're trying to rip the transmission off the mounts
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^Agreed
If you have never used one don't post about it. I do recommend a nixim type brake mod and flipping the gas / clutch pedal around, gives all the pedals a better feel - IMO.
 
I have never driven a manual car in real life. I now have 0 issue putting numerous clean laps around the Nurb in most manual cars with the H-shifter and clutch.

Its nowhere near as fast as paddles but it is a ton of fun when you're just going for a drive.
 
So, a little off topic, but those of you using the clutch, do you still do left foot braking, or do you use your right foot for acc and brake? What about heel to toe? I'm thinking very seriously about upgrading to a G27, to get it as real as possible.
 
robulus
So, a little off topic, but those of you using the clutch, do you still do left foot braking, or do you use your right foot for acc and brake? What about heel to toe? I'm thinking very seriously about upgrading to a G27, to get it as real as possible.
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I use my right foot for both gas and brake. I also heel and toe. Logitech set up the brake and gas peddles to make it easier to heel and toe as well.
 
robulus
So, a little off topic, but those of you using the clutch, do you still do left foot braking, or do you use your right foot for acc and brake? What about heel to toe? I'm thinking very seriously about upgrading to a G27, to get it as real as possible.
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Depends on the car, the track, and how fast I'm going. I'll tend to left foot brake only when needed to balance the car, especially really light RWD cars. The two turns that jump out at me are turn 1 on Sarthe, and approaching the hairpin on Suzuka (just the initial slowdown, I go back to right foot braking for the downshifting through the actual corner).

Most of the time I'll brake with my right, heel-toe shifting... but that's how I drive my daily driver :lol:
 
The G27 is great, I don't get why people wouldn't want the option to use an H pattern shifter and clutch. If you have the cash get the G27 you won't be disappointing. There's no point buying a DFGT if you want the Clutch and H shifter but want to save money, it's only $150 more or so. Get more bang for your buck and get a G27. Options make people happy!
 
I have just ordered the G27,also ordered the Wheel Stand Pro,ive been really impressed with the reviews they are both getting! This will be a massive upgrade for me,as ive never used a wheel with padels before! The wife will kill me when she finds out how much ive just spent!!!!!!
 
ruffymark
I have just ordered the G27,also ordered the Wheel Stand Pro,ive been really impressed with the reviews they are both getting! This will be a massive upgrade for me,as ive never used a wheel with padels before! The wife will kill me when she finds out how much ive just spent!!!!!!
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I've just received my G27 and wheelstand pro, its the first wheel i've ever had and i'm absolutely love it, so much more fun. You wont be disappointed.
 

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