Gear Ratios for B-Spec. GET MORE WINS

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ollymus
Hi guys,

I have noticed if you put a greater emphasis on acceleration than you normally would for Bob during races he ll perform a LOT better.

Keep in mind that he rarely reaches the top speeds you do so in theory you are maximising his chances of overtaking.

I find my top speeds are easily 20% faster than his down the stretch.

Went from 10th to first using this on the Lambo 1 make race.

Olly
 
ollymus
Hi guys,

I have noticed if you put a greater emphasis on acceleration than you normally would for Bob during races he ll perform a LOT better.

Keep in mind that he rarely reaches the top speeds you do so in theory you are maximising his chances of overtaking.

I find my top speeds are easily 20% faster than his down the stretch.

Went from 10th to first using this on the Lambo 1 make race.

Olly
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This is indeed interesting. Please elaborate more on the gear ratio part (perhaps give us the stats for your Lamborghini? 👍 )
 
Sorry If I didn't explain myself well.

What I mean is, adjust the gear ratio to favour acceleration over top speed. Much more so than when you race in A spec.

As a lot of people have said, your driver consistantly brakes when he shouldn't so this helps to overcome the problem slightly.

My apologies, I didn't win the 1 race make, I won the Lambo exclusive event. Still he went from 10th to first doing this.....

I set the max speed of the lambo (in gear ratios to about 150-160 top speed).
 
Obviously this technique works best on the smaller tracks (Rome, Autumn mini) but on the longer tracks you tend to be able to win with superior bhp anyway.
 
Oh and you need to spend 20k on a custom transmission too. Some people might not find this acceptable, but considering I've sank 100's of ks in to bobs cars literally finding any advantage I can this seems cost effective in comparison.

Hope you guys find it useful and not just a waste of time.
 
ollymus
Oh and you need to spend 20k on a custom transmission too. Some people might not find this acceptable, but considering I've sank 100's of ks in to bobs cars literally finding any advantage I can this seems cost effective in comparison.

Hope you guys find it useful and not just a waste of time.
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Haha yeh, Bob the pleb is a hell of a waste of money. He has expensive tastes... :P

I never get anything I want, bob always seems to need the help more!
 
Ryno
Haha yeh, Bob the pleb is a hell of a waste of money. He has expensive tastes... :P

I never get anything I want, bob always seems to need the help more!
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i used a car that was gifted and have won all my races up to now but yes setting the speed to a set area means poor bob wont work overtime and sweat himself inside the stig suit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Khaddar
Sounds like a stroke of genius to me, will definitely give this a go for those races that cause lots of problems.
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I hope it works out for you. (especially after all of my plugging! :sly:)

Ryno
Haha yeh, Bob the pleb is a hell of a waste of money. He has expensive tastes... :P

I never get anything I want, bob always seems to need the help more!
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Ha! Yeh.... Jeez... I'm workin my @ss off on A spec trying to keep bob in the most pimped out rides humanly POSSIBLE.

My 100k+ Suzuki Wagon is a nice example....

Just got a first in the first mini K though using the absolutely shortest gear ratio. I was amazed! He actually overtook on Autumn Mini!!!
 
I suspect drivetrains may provide a more noticable difference in B-spec too simply because of Bobs gear changing habits (would burn out a clutch in about 30 seconds!). I haven't tested this yet though.
 
Oh and make sure you press speed up or overtake right from the grid (not sure which one is best) because with this gear set up its vital he makes the most of his accel advantage from standing.
 
I been doing this for a long time with Bspec. I usually adjust the gearing for lower top speed to help acceleration for Bob on harder races where I can't throw an overpowered car into the race. A good example would be the pickup truck and historic race car events. Bob in the same car with gobs of tuning parts money dumped in usually doesn't do that much better. He will still brake at the same spots and corner around the same average speed. The only exception is he'll get a tad higher speed on the straights in a power tuned car. The general idea I see it is, lots of straights then give bob more power and less downforce; technical tracks get more downforce and shorter gearing. It's easier to "save" money by just giving him a 20k transmission catered to his driving style.

This trick not only works for Bspec. It gives you the advantage too on technical courses for A spec. For instance, you will not want your car tuned for 200mph on Autumn Ring mini.

My Bob only needs to finish the Formula GT and the last German touring car races. This is only a problem with sourcing the car to throw him into. All other races, he won with a change in downforce and gearing (very important for the nascar races).
 
Overtake will make bob swing out to the side. Off the line this is good but if you're on a stretch and do that instead of speed up he won't draft to increase speed.
 
ItzGenX
I been doing this for a long time with Bspec. I usually adjust the gearing for lower top speed to help acceleration for Bob on harder races where I can't throw an overpowered car into the race. A good example would be the pickup truck and historic race car events.
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What care and settings did you use for the historic race car events?
 
ollymus
Oh and make sure you press speed up or overtake right from the grid (not sure which one is best) because with this gear set up its vital he makes the most of his accel advantage from standing.
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I usually "pace up" before or during the countdown. Immediately after I will mash "overtake" until his pace bar starts declining (from max) and then pace up again. Don't hit overtake if bob isn't kissing the back bumper of a car or draft sling shotting later on. If you tell him to overtake while he is 2-3 car lengths behind, nothing will happen and he'll just mess up his line. Also keep in mind his pace automatically gets higher when a car gets within range (in any direction). For non tire wear races, I keep the pace bar on maximum at the beginning of the race, even if in first. When Bob gets up to first place with a max pace bar, I will begin to mash "maintain pace" or whatever it is and never anything else if he is leaving the pack. Doing this will do two things. It will help gain a larger lead to prevent drafting cars, and his pace will automatically reduce even while saying "maintain pace" as he makes mistakes such as oversteer slides and dirt trips. This means his paces lowers automatically to keep him at his fastest without major mistakes vs his mental and physical strength. Later in extreme events, he'll roast tires prematurely and have to pit before the end of the race (not good). The two events I remember that I had to babysit his pacing was Grand Valley (Nascar) and Nurburgring (Dream Car Championship). Those two you have to be really careful to babysit his pace and find out his "maximum" efficient pace WITHOUT leaving rubber and eyeball the arrow to keep it there. The Nascar one I found was tougher on this. You'll have to get to the front of the pack asap (max pace) and after getting up there, you'll have to manage his pace (with AI two inches behind you trying to pressure your pace up). In these instances, "pace down" is your friend.

Hope this helps you guys having troubles in Bspec. Personally for me, Nascar was the hardest. Three of his races in championship were won by .02 seconds.
 
I like to setup all my cars for myself, and ultimately that helps R.Hu (the b-driver :D ) as well.
If Bob doesnt spin out in every corner you can shorten the gear ratio to help him accelerate faster. When Bob does spin out a lot it helps a bit to make the ratio longer.

But setting up the car for Bob is vital and can be very cheap. The problem with our Bob was that he always spun out while accelerating out of a corner. We now give him a rear wing on every car and max out the downforce. If possible we also set the differential under acceleration higher (tighter) so he has less wheelspin while accelerating.
Also set the brakes more forward so he brakes more into the corner.

While racing the (Japanese or Lupo) cup R.Hu won all the races with a 180ish BHP car while the competition had 210ish. We only bought the cheap BHP boosters ($750 air filter), a rear wing and sport suspension. Especially the race on that mountain track was very eventful to watch, our driver was in battle the whole race and got in the lead the last lap.

The point is you don't need to over tune your car really, just set it up perfectly for your driver. If he spins; make it tighter. If he doesnt spin; make it loose ;)
 
ItzGenX
I usually "pace up" before or during the countdown. Immediately after I will mash "overtake" until his pace bar starts declining (from max) and then pace up again.
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Thanks. Worked a treat for me.

When you think about it, you only really need to match your opponents top speed (on the straight), it doesnt matter if you re bouncing on the red as long as they re not over taking you.

The straights aren't where bob is the problem, he doesnt lose ground here, so try not to go too crazy. Its much better if you can have bob maximised for the rest of the circuit where it really matters

If you consider the possibilities for this for overtaking in higher BHP cars you ve got a nice situation!!!

I just set my gears to go SLOWER than the other cars down the straight but I still won because I pulled away at the grid and round the corners! (This was in the Vitz race on the Fuji Speedway which has a long straight).
 
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Winkie069
What care and settings did you use for the historic race car events?
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I used the Toyota 7 '70. Priced at 4.5 Give or take but, I won it Beating "Like the Wind" race in B-Spec mode, lol

Maxed downforce and droped the gears down to 149 top end, instead of 199, :)

The 2nd race took one too many tries for me..... other AIs would spin out and my driver would smack into them and be there for like 10 secs... Made me soo mad, If i bet money against him in amounts of 10k id'a won over a mil lol :P
 
Winkie069
What care and settings did you use for the historic race car events?
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I have a Ford Mark IV Race Car 69' (from birthday trick) fully modded (550hp 1000kg?). Given the car, it still wasn't easy for bob (Toyota 7 and Chap 2J are still faster on straights). Rear camber 1.5, Front 3.0 - Rear Toe +.20, Front 0 - Ride Height for both front and rear lowered all the way and downforce maxed front and rear. I forgot the exact speed settings I used but the first race (deep forest?) was around 170-180mph and the next race was like 155mph. You want him to bounce the rev limit just before he slams on the brakes on his fastest section. To tune, I usually have to start the race on that course just to observe his 'fast' sections and watch the rpm/speed when he begins to slam on the brakes and take the turn. Watching a lap, exit race, restart race with new settings and watch again. It's a tedious thing to do especially with the horrible load times of this game, but better then watching the entire race on the edge of your seat only to lose.
 
It's like the real Bob has suddenly been awakened!!!

Transmission = easily most important part for him!

It's golds galore since I've started doing this!

Now he has ridiculous acceleration he drives so much more aggresively, he's just span 2 people off in ONE RACE.
 
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