General tuning for drag racing

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Hello.

I come to you with a question in hopes of enlightenment and further enjoying this marvelous game.

Usually, like a lot of people I thoroughly enjoy an ol' fashion drag race amongst friends. But a lot of times, under same car circumstances I get beat.

My question is, what are the overall methods, rules to follow, steps when tuning to get the most of a car for drag races?

For example, I know that to achieve maximum top speed, I must lower the downforce. But when it comes to drag racing, what must I do to increase acceleration in short tracks, and overall speed in longer ones?

Thanks a lot for any help I get.

Cheers.
 
ReVoLuT1oN
Hello.

I come to you with a question in hopes of enlightenment and further enjoying this marvelous game.

Usually, like a lot of people I thoroughly enjoy an ol' fashion drag race amongst friends. But a lot of times, under same car circumstances I get beat.

My question is, what are the overall methods, rules to follow, steps when tuning to get the most of a car for drag races?

For example, I know that to achieve maximum top speed, I must lower the downforce. But when it comes to drag racing, what must I do to increase acceleration in short tracks, and overall speed in longer ones?

Thanks a lot for any help I get.

Cheers.
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How long of a drag are you setting the car up for?
 
I try to tune my cars around SSR7 tunnel. Suspension will always be the same. Maxing the gear box isn't always the best, but long gears are better then short in drag racing, provided you stay in the power band.
 
articzap
I try to tune my cars around SSR7 tunnel. Suspension will always be the same. Maxing the gear box isn't always the best, but long gears are better then short in drag racing, provided you stay in the power band.
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I see. So in terms of drag racing, suspension does not come into the equation? Interesting, appreciate the help.
 
ReVoLuT1oN
I see. So in terms of drag racing, suspension does not come into the equation? Interesting, appreciate the help.
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It does, but it doesn't matter if its short or long run. Your goal is get off the line the fastest, not about what it's doing at 180 mph. Still needs tuning.

Downforce is a gray area. For short drags, I like it maxed to get the power planted faster, versus long races were you need to be slippery to keep pulling up top.
 
If you are draging 4wd cars, which is best for traction, drivetrain 50/50 och 25/75? Any opinions? I Try to drag the Nissan R35 and honestly i don't feel any differance.
 
TT3AZ
If you are draging 4wd cars, which is best for traction, drivetrain 50/50 och 25/75? Any opinions? I Try to drag the Nissan R35 and honestly i don't feel any differance.
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Yeah. I've heard that putting it 50/50 helps, but I also haven't noticed much difference.

So for short distance 1/4 mile drags, is increasing the downforce beneficial for non-AWD as it increases grip on the road thus greater acceleration?
 
I'm kinda dissapointed I could not get the help and information I wanted out of this thread :(

Anyone out there who could enlighten us even more?

And again, thank you to those who have already chipped in what they know.

Cheers.
 
Downforce is really dependent on how much the car spins. Most of my cars spin till about 60 then hook hard. Downforce wasn't really active at low speeds from my own testing. In a true quarter mile race though, I'd rather have the downforce.
 
articzap
Downforce is really dependent on how much the car spins. Most of my cars spin till about 60 then hook hard. Downforce wasn't really active at low speeds from my own testing. In a true quarter mile race though, I'd rather have the downforce.
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ENTERSANDMAN13
for drag racing you need to setup lsd properly, acceleration sensitivity set to max, traction control off and abs on for best launch. i like to set my transmission to 255 mph , that setting is good for long and short drags
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Thanks!

These 2 suggestions helped me out a lot on 1/4 mile drags.

I tested on Susuki Escudo against a handful of people with the same car, the result? I beat them every time!

I maxed out the accelarator sensitivity. And I also bumped the Initial Torque a bit, not sure how and if it helped but I guess it did?

And maxed out the downforce. I was also able to beat some Bugatti's.

So thanks to everyone who's helped.
 
I would guess to set camber to 0 on the driven wheels and set toe's to 0 aswell, maximum tyre contact least rolling resistance.
Obviously this is just for straight lining, and will handle like a mexican sports car on the bends

try it for comparisson and see if it works
 
Seriously, the launch is the most important thing, if you go exact after for example 35 seconds, and the other guy goes at 35:200 seconds, you will be likely the ones that pulls away first, if you both have "okay" drag setups. I have been dragracing alot in the ssr7, and let say it 50/50 who wins, it all depends on who has the best launch. I have drag raced cars that had extreme camber, much areo etc, with my drag tuned car, and some times they win. Why? Because their reaction are faster than mine while launching.

I think you can have better or worse drag setup, but if you only rely on the setup itself and not good launch, you are smoked. I really question the impact that different setups have in straight line drag in gt5.
 
ReVoLuT1oN
Thanks!

These 2 suggestions helped me out a lot on 1/4 mile drags.

I tested on Susuki Escudo against a handful of people with the same car, the result? I beat them every time!

I maxed out the accelarator sensitivity. And I also bumped the Initial Torque a bit, not sure how and if it helped but I guess it did?

And maxed out the downforce. I was also able to beat some Bugatti's.

So thanks to everyone who's helped.
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-Maxing out the Downforce.. not really the greatest idea for top speed.

-Maxing out the Accel Sensitivity gave your differential 60%(or 100% depending on how you take the numbers) lock. Meaning more traction.

-Increasing the Initial Torque just improves the effects of both Accel/Decel settings of the differential. Too much though and it's a bad thing.. just like every setting.
 
For 4WD cars, is these LSD settings good:

Initial Torque - 10

Acceleration - 60

Deceleration - 60

I want maximun lock
 
TT3AZ
For 4WD cars, is these LSD settings good:

Initial Torque - 10

Acceleration - 60

Deceleration - 60

I want maximun lock
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According to Scaffs guide..

Initial Torque Settings
Opening (lower values) Improves the cars manoeuvrability. Reduces the effect of the accel. and decel. LSD settings.
Locking (higher values) Increase the effect of the accel and decel LSD settings up to a point, after which the effect will decrease. Reduces the cars manouverability.

Accel. Settings
Locking (higher value) Increases traction out of corners by limiting wheel spin. Limits the car’s ability to turn, particularly in tight corners.
Opening (lower value) Reduces traction out of corners by increasing the chances of wheel spin. Improves the car’s ability to turn, particularly in tight corners.

Decel Settings
Locking (higher value) Increases stability when decelerating into a corner. Limits the car’s ability to turn.
Opening (lower value) Reduces stability when decelerating into a corner. Improves the car’s ability to turn.
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So you'll want 60/60/60 for MAXIMUM lock. maybe.. 45/60/60
 
Just to throw in a spanner in with this, Diff's are for tuning a car whilst turning 💡

drag racing is straight lining, therefore no "diff" between the driven tyres ????
 
itstheDRE4M
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So you'll want 60/60/60 for MAXIMUM lock. maybe.. 45/60/60
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Maximum lock is 5/60/60... You need to have less torque to Lock when the Initial Torque setting is lower.
 
Okay, so for maximun lock, either it is 5/60/60, or 60/60/60. Very intresting, i have done som tests, and honestly i can really feel any differance on the straight ssr7. I think the one whos has the best reactión when launch is called, that person will win. Acordin to different guides, my gt-r is setup for drag, still some gt-r with huge camber, maximun aero etc, etc, beast me of the line. The question is, as told before, how accurate is the physics when driving straight line? Some people even clain that stiffening the rear suspension on rwd cars will make them launch even better.
 
TT3AZ
Okay, so for maximun lock, either it is 5/60/60, or 60/60/60. Very intresting, i have done som tests, and honestly i can really feel any differance on the straight ssr7. I think the one whos has the best reactión when launch is called, that person will win. Acordin to different guides, my gt-r is setup for drag, still some gt-r with huge camber, maximun aero etc, etc, beast me of the line. The question is, as told before, how accurate is the physics when driving straight line? Some people even clain that stiffening the rear suspension on rwd cars will make them launch even better.
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by rule of physics you would tend to make your rear softer in a rwd car so the torque really catches and makes the weight settle on the rear end and plants down the tires. However, this being a game i dont know the honest answer yet as i have seen little to no difference with tweaks in suspension during 1/4 mile drags. But i will keep trying
 
Now with the introduction of adjustable gear ratios in the transmission; it all has become even more confusing and/or extensive to properly tune for a drag race.

As far as I know everything from the toe angle, differential LSD, transmission, aero etc... affect the car in a positive/negative way when dragging (keep in mind, I am a noob)

Any further help and knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
 
ReVoLuT1oN
Now with the introduction of adjustable gear ratios in the transmission; it all has become even more confusing and/or extensive to properly tune for a drag race.

As far as I know everything from the toe angle, differential LSD, transmission, aero etc... affect the car in a positive/negative way when dragging (keep in mind, I am a noob)

Any further help and knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
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Yup. It could be argued that tuning a car for drag is more complex than tuning it for circuit racing. The win is given to the better tuned car, not necessarily the best driver. You can have a wheel or DS3 and still be competitive.
 
ReVoLuT1oN
I'm kinda dissapointed I could not get the help and information I wanted out of this thread :(

Anyone out there who could enlighten us even more?

And again, thank you to those who have already chipped in what they know.

Cheers.
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Well when dragging in SSR7 and indy, suspension is everything. Every car needs a different suspension setup to compensate for whatever the tourqe is. Having a low front can improve launch, But, Your top end will fail and you will possibly be caught 70 percent of the time. So you need to balance it out. As for the gears generaly first is quite long and 2,3,4,5,6 is short enough to stay in the power band.👍
 
d24689
Well when dragging in SSR7 and indy, suspension is everything. Every car needs a different suspension setup to compensate for whatever the tourqe is. Having a low front can improve launch, But, Your top end will fail and you will possibly be caught 70 percent of the time. So you need to balance it out. As for the gears generaly first is quite long and 2,3,4,5,6 is short enough to stay in the power band.👍
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So the front makes the bigger difference in the launch? I thought that raising the back was more important in the launch
 
savage388
So the front makes the bigger difference in the launch? I thought that raising the back was more important in the launch
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They BOTH make an equal difference. Dumbest way I can break it down for everyone is this:

Adjusting Front Suspension = Adjusting Top Speed
Adjusting Rear Suspension = Adjusting Acceleration

You've got to find the balance between the two. All cars work in their own way, be it high front/low rear, low front/high rear, high front & rear, low front & rear, or a balanced suspension where it's not sky high or slammed to the ground. Each car has their own unique benefit from one style of suspension or the other.
 

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