GIULIA TZ2 basically pretty but useless?

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I won this car on b-spec historic race, but am I doing the tuning right if the car maxes out at like 200 hp? What the hell kind of race car is this? Still pretty AR car and fun cockpit mode but how on earth would this car compete with other race cars of its era? Unless I'm missing something...:guilty:

I also noticed it's a 10mil credit car in the AR dealership...why again would I pay 10 million credits for a vintage racer that can't compete in the game it's featured in?
 
It was probably built for more of the tight tracks.
 
It was probably built for more of the tight tracks.

Think you might be right. I threw BOB in the cockpit for the historic race at the mountain course just to see how it fared for fun. I noticed it actually held some ground in the tighter parts of the circuit but as soon as a straight came around it got dusted.

I just find it odd that, with the stock AR, my 2000 Tiburon had almost as many horses...
 
Think you might be right. I threw BOB in the cockpit for the historic race at the mountain course just to see how it fared for fun. I noticed it actually held some ground in the tighter parts of the circuit but as soon as a straight came around it got dusted.

I just find it odd that, with the stock AR, my 2000 Tiburon had almost as many horses...

My guess would be that your Tiburon is also about twice as heavy as the Alfa.

Also, don't you think it's pretty unfair to compare cars that are about 40 years apart?
 
My guess would be that your Tiburon is also about twice as heavy as the Alfa.

Also, don't you think it's pretty unfair to compare cars that are about 40 years apart?

Haha true, true. I was just making a point about it's not really being able to be used in GT for much aspec or bspec. Maybe online for specialized vintage races or something. Don't get me wrong I like the look and feel of the car. But it would be funny to match it up against the Tiburon in game and see how the race turns out :P
 
Have you driven it yet ?

I've beaten DTM cars on a round of Nurburg with that little car.
 
It's a beautiful car!

Race Cars from the sixties could be dusted by many 'family' hatchbacks nowadays - it's just the way that technology has improved.
 
Try driving it on a twisty track, it's beautiful from the driver's seat as well. This is less of a race car and more of a time machine to the technology, looks, and feel of the 60's. Brings a tear to my eye :( (haha, no)
 
I won this car on b-spec historic race, but am I doing the tuning right if the car maxes out at like 200 hp?

There's your problem. The quality of a car is not described by what it 'maxes out at'.

Stop tuning and start driving. 👍
 
Download "On Days Like These" from the Italian Job and take it around Eiger Nordwand on cockpit view.

Before you know it you'll have bought leather gloves and a single-lapel suit...
 
That car will roll over if a stiff breeze blows...
 
One of my favorite drives in the game. I had not used it until the FR seasonal came out. I used them as an excuse to try it out and loved it. Sure it is no power house, but a lovely thing to drive and listen to.
 
Useless? Hey, that's my absolute favorite car you're talking about there. ;) (At least in the game it is anyway). Cars don't have to have 500+bhp to be enjoyable. And you don't even really need to make any performance upgrades to appreciate what it can do. With some hard running and an oil change, your power will probably increase to 177~178. And with a 620-kg curb weight, it has a pretty impressive power to weight ratio. The problem, I agree, is the lack of other cars in it's class. It's a light weight racing car from the early 60s with a 1.6 liter engine. On long straights, heavier but more powerful cars will make short work of it. Even after adjusting the transmission, it will max out at around 255-kmh. But it's so light and so well balanced that you can really throw it around curves with little fear.

None-the-less, I should point out, along with the PDI kart, this is one car that truly highlights some holes in the PP system. It's really not as 'beefy' as it's PP would lead you to believe. The car is good on a tight, twisty track. Try it on the Nürburgring. But a few suggestions first.

Aero(F/R): 15/30
Transmission: 270 KPH
LSD
Intial: 7
Accel.: 38 36
Braking: 17 15
Ride Height (F/R): -21/-20
Spring (F/R): 6.1/4.7
Damper E (F/R): 5/6
Damper C (F/R): 3/4
ARB (F/R): 6/6 5/6
Camber (F/R): -2.7/-1.8 -2.8/-1.9
Toe (F/R): -0.07/+0.20
Brakes(F/R): 3/0
ABS: 0
Tires: Racing Hard

And if you can, drive it from cockpit view--brilliant. In January I hosted (a pre-arranged race) from La Sarthe--about 1.5 hours of racing with pit stops and night to day changes. Everybody in the field was driving this car--absolutely epic.

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Also use it for the 4hr Nurb without the Audi R8 and the S2000 GT1 turbo in the lineup.
Use Racing softs.
 
Have you driven it yet ?

I've beaten DTM cars on a round of Nurburg with that little car.

This!

I find it 1 of the most responsive and balanced cars in GT5, if an online race breaks out upto 400bhp I bring this old girl out and embarrass most of the field, I love it lol

From the pics above am I right in thinking it can be repainted or does it come in more colours then red?
 
use it for drifting ;)
 
From the pics above am I right in thinking it can be repainted or does it come in more colours then red?

Yes it can be painted, it looks amazing in chrome, the numbers stay white so it looks like they are ghosted on.
 
I guess I really haven't given this car a fair shot. I'm not saying I'm a horsepower nut and that all cars are good for are shooting into space in a straight line. I was more referring to its usability in the game for aspec or bspec. I'll try it out for the seasonal thingy and have a few free runs on nurburgring to get a "feel" for it. and thanks for the tune as well I'll give that a shot.
 
Also, as this car is more responsive on turns, would you guys suggest a mid-range or high-range RPM turbo kit?
 
Its actually really nice to drive, but I think I might of prefered like 2D or 2J because you cant get them from the dealership and they cost loads of cr when they show up in the UCD.
 
Can anyone do a comparison of this car and the Caterham Seven?

That would be interesting :D
 
It's one of my favourite cars in the game :) It's a beauty to drive and watch :)
Give him a shot! :dopey:
 
okay foot in mouth it is a blast to drive and won all the races in the FR challenge pretty easily. Not my favorite car by any stretch but quite an enthusiast's kind of model. I can always go do 1make races, right? :)
 
That's a beautiful car, and I love to drive it.
 
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