Got €27,000? Might as well fly!

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I think this is a turning point in individual mobility. For a price of a good car you now can get a single seat mini plane with waterdrome.

This is FlyNano.

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Starting this summer you can travel on air and land on rooftops, for parking, coming out of buildings in a tuxedo while leaving others jammed in traffic and dust. :sly:

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Specs
-Wingspan: 5 m / 16,4 ft
-Weight: 70 kg / 154 lbs
-Max speed: 140 kmh / 87 mph
-Max height: 3 km / 1,8 miles

Between, I don't mean this as an advertisement. I just wanted to share a news story I saw squashed on a newspaper that I found vastly interesting. 👍
 
Yeah, most rooftops don't have pools big enough to make that work unfortunately.
 
I don't trust people in $30,000+ cars, I sure as hell don't trust those who can afford this to be any more responsible.
 
Looks like it could stand to have some control surfaces too. A rudder isn't all that useful.
 
Is it a bird? Is it a plane?

Whatever it is, it's heading straight down whenever someone tries to fly it.
 
It would be stable but hard to maneuver due to the lack of proper control surfaces. Also, have fun stopping the damn thing during landing since there is a lack of flaps, etc.

Plus it isn't pressurized (obviously) and likely short range... would be easier to have a car for sure.
 
Rather get a car.

Like a Civic Type R and making it better(roll cage, more engine power)
 
Azuremen
It would be stable but hard to maneuver due to the lack of proper control surfaces. Also, have fun stopping the damn thing during landing since there is a lack of flaps, etc.

Plus it isn't pressurized (obviously) and likely short range... would be easier to have a car for sure.
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It's probably very manoeuvrable because judging by the lack of control surfaces you have to control it by shifting your weight, much like a hand-glider.

I'd much, much rather one of these!
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With one of those you CAN land it on an office building. It could be fun but it would just bring up so many different problems that I'd rather own a decent car and save the rest I save on insurance. Plus I don't trust being around anyone or me with that machine, I know I've never been good with flight sims.
 
I wonder, how much would it cost to insure that thing? I'm pretty sure the annual premium will at least be equal to its price tag.
 
Well for those who have the money and are interested in it, wouldn't be a mistake. But I'd rather buy a car with the sum of those cash... Or something else a lot more useful.
 
Deliveries start summer 2011 and yet they don't have a single real photograph. I somehow suspect they won't be able to meet that delivery schedule, although I'm sure they'd be happy to take your money.

Max range of 25 miles (40 km) for the electric version, and a whopping 45 miles/70 km for the other versions.
 
ExigeEvan
It's probably very manoeuvrable because judging by the lack of control surfaces you have to control it by shifting your weight, much like a hand-glider.

I'd much, much rather one of these!
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That sure needs a pilot's licence, but FlyNano is so light that you don't need licence for it in many countries.
 
McLaren
I don't trust people in $30,000+ cars, I sure as hell don't trust those who can afford this to be any more responsible.
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Yeah, but there's much more open fields and such (especially around here) than there are roads. That means these people can crash all they want and kill only themselves. Clean up the gene pool a bit.
 
If everyone flew planes and stuff, parking would SUCK. We're not exactly Coruscant just yet.
 
Jedi2016
Yeah, but there's much more open fields and such (especially around here) than there are roads. That means these people can crash all they want and kill only themselves. Clean up the gene pool a bit.
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Except for the time when they decide to crash into someone on a street or into a building because they were attempting to land or be cute. All it takes is 1 specific accident in this thing, & it'll be off the market in the US.
 
You realize that, in the States at least, this will require an extra $3,000 of flight training...AT LEAST...as well as paying for aero fuel, all the hours you have to log, et-cetera...

and then there's that this isn't a homebuilt - it has to be certified to even be sold here as an aircraft. Granted, it'll be an LSA, but it's still an aircraft.

Not to mention, you can't fly at night without IFR certs, which is even MORE training and hour-logging. James May and Richard Hammond found that out, and lost to a Veyron. I doubt such a light plane will even have IFR equipment.
 
Jim Prower
You realize that, in the States at least, this will require an extra $3,000 of flight training...AT LEAST...as well as paying for aero fuel, all the hours you have to log, et-cetera...

and then there's that this isn't a homebuilt - it has to be certified to even be sold here as an aircraft. Granted, it'll be an LSA, but it's still an aircraft.

Not to mention, you can't fly at night without IFR certs, which is even MORE training and hour-logging. James May and Richard Hammond found that out, and lost to a Veyron. I doubt such a light plane will even have IFR equipment.
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All this only makes me happier that one of these will probably not make it over here in the states except to be some product placement in a millionaire playboy-type movie.
 
So tempted to press the Vaporware button on this. While it's possible that the gasoline versions aren't, good luck getting 40 km of range and 130 km/h out of an electric with essentially zero kilograms of batteries (spec weight for the electric version is the same as for the gasoline version).

I'd suspect something more along the lines of an extra 50 kg of batteries to achieve anything resembling a flight range.

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Essentially, you're looking at an ultra-expensive ultralight made of CF. Clever wing... double your surface area and make the wing stiffer than a standard single wing at the same time. Looks like it'll be very stable, too.

But groundbreaking? Hardly.
 
niky

Essentially, you're looking at an ultra-expensive ultralight made of CF. Clever wing... double your surface area and make the wing stiffer than a standard single wing at the same time. Looks like it'll be very stable, too.

But groundbreaking? Hardly.
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The wing is smart in that it effectively includes winglets as a structural component.

It's stupid because at even moderate alpha angle you're going to stall the upper surface and the rudder too.
 
I don't think it's possible to actually achieve those angles... you would have to be moving forward and pointed almost straight up to stall the top wing... and even then, it looks like the lower wing is built to do most of the lifting. Looks like it's designed to resist rolling, too, from the wing configuration.
 
niky
I don't think it's possible to actually achieve those angles... you would have to be moving forward and pointed almost straight up to stall the top wing... and even then, it looks like the lower wing is built to do most of the lifting. Looks like it's designed to resist rolling, too, from the wing configuration.
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If you've seen a bi-plane come into land they have a remarkably steep approach because they're designed for low speeds and high lift. By shifting the top surface rear of the lower surface I'd think they're placing it straight in the draft, and without flaps I can't see that lower surface having the lift to keep that airborne at low speeds. But hey, pure speculation.




[Until they give me tech drawings and a day with ANSYS ;) )
 
Looking at the vertical separation, it doesn't seem to be close enough... in fact, it reminds me of one of Rutan's more ambitious designs, which has a semi-canard (into which the landing gear is built) below and forward of the main surfaces.

But yeah, without seeing the thing in actual flight or having a diagram, can't really tell much about it yet.
 
McLaren
All this only makes me happier that one of these will probably not make it over here in the states except to be some product placement in a millionaire playboy-type movie.
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It's one of the reasons that the majority of planes sold today are homebuilts...and those that aren't are 30+ year old designs that have been mildly updated over the years. They're still selling the Cessna 172.
 

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