Gr2 at Monza, what a disaster.

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Doesn't matter if you start in the 1st half dozen places, you will be rammed at the first corner without fail and end up about 13th or more.

Although one time I was in 4th and was rammed straight through the whole thing and took 1st place (until the next lap at the same corner).

Good place to shed some of that BS or BA ranking too.

A number of times every car in front of me (and probably behind too) had the red penalty flag flying.

Started BS, now BD. Just a glutton for punishment I guess.

Oh, my qualifying time is 1.41.1.
 
Dalone
Doesn't matter if you start in the 1st half dozen places, you will be rammed at the first corner without fail and end up about 13th or more.

Although one time I was in 4th and was rammed straight through the whole thing and took 1st place (until the next lap at the same corner).

Good place to shed some of that BS or BA ranking too.

A number of times every car in front of me (and probably behind too) had the red penalty flag flying.

Started BS, now BD. Just a glutton for punishment I guess.

Oh, my qualifying time is 1.41.1.
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There is not much we or PD can do... Some people are just not good enough to make it thru the first chicane without killing everyone.
 
I went through the same thing as you and I paid too dearly I had the pilot class of A-S And after that race I ended up in D-E now I recovered my classification and I went back to B-B in summary never braking in the first corner
 
Raced 5 times and all end with Sr up without 1st chicane issue. But I was sent to sand at race 2 and 4 at 2nd chicane and Ascari respectively. Both put me to the last place after rejoined the race. What frustrated me was both dive-bombers finished ahead of me. 10 seconds penalty is not enough. It took me more than 10s to rejoin the race. Though I didn’t get any penalty for that 2 bumps.
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Havent raced Gr.2 there yet but most of my races at Monza were pretty good. Maybe i've been lucky but havent noticed much of the T1 drama allot of people seem to be dealing with.

Only time i had problems there was when they ran without the first chicane and in Gr.1 cars. I got fastest time in EU that day so started pole every race but it was impossible to keep that position as i got drafted by every time before the first braking zone. The entire field approaching that chicane with 340 kph did cause some trouble for me that day as well.
 
I had a few decent races, unfortunately the last 2 were dirty and in those 2 races I dropped from 99 SR to 56 SR.
Here's a little clip of how to lose mucho SR in a couple of seconds.

I already got punted in T1 yet that's a given, started 2nd in that race, laggy 1 bar connection in 3rd did not brake in time.
 
Sven Jurgens
I had a few decent races, unfortunately the last 2 were dirty and in those 2 races I dropped from 99 SR to 56 SR.
Here's a little clip of how to lose mucho SR in a couple of seconds.

I already got punted in T1 yet that's a given, started 2nd in that race, laggy 1 bar connection in 3rd did not brake in time.
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Wow that must have really been a pinball highscore or something :p
 
I had some brilliant races at Monza last night. I was hit once at the first corner but otherwise mostly clean racing.

Sven Jurgens
I had a few decent races, unfortunately the last 2 were dirty and in those 2 races I dropped from 99 SR to 56 SR.
Here's a little clip of how to lose mucho SR in a couple of seconds.

I already got punted in T1 yet that's a given, started 2nd in that race, laggy 1 bar connection in 3rd did not brake in time.
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You did put yourself in that position. You were slow off the first chicane and then decided to take middle of the track? Pick a side and let the faster cars drive by. Its the first lap at Monza, you'll likely get those positions back, it's not overly difficult track to pass on and the risk of being in a collision is much higher as you experienced.
 
Sven Jurgens
I had a few decent races, unfortunately the last 2 were dirty and in those 2 races I dropped from 99 SR to 56 SR.
Here's a little clip of how to lose mucho SR in a couple of seconds.

I already got punted in T1 yet that's a given, started 2nd in that race, laggy 1 bar connection in 3rd did not brake in time.
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Did you carsick:lol:
 
Whew, dodged a bullet there (in more ways than one :lol:). I thought that PD would hold the first Gr.2 outing on the chicane-less Monza. It would only have made perfect sense.
 
I think maybe they should consider taking out the chicane for races at Gr.3 and above, they have done it before.
 
Dalone
Doesn't matter if you start in the 1st half dozen places, you will be rammed at the first corner without fail and end up about 13th or more.

Although one time I was in 4th and was rammed straight through the whole thing and took 1st place (until the next lap at the same corner).

Good place to shed some of that BS or BA ranking too.

A number of times every car in front of me (and probably behind too) had the red penalty flag flying.

Started BS, now BD. Just a glutton for punishment I guess.

Oh, my qualifying time is 1.41.1.
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Totally agree, I started on pole 3 times yesterday and got knocked off the track on each occasion, I'm gobsmacked on peoples inability to remember to how to brake on that circuit.
 
Lion-Face
I had some brilliant races at Monza last night. I was hit once at the first corner but otherwise mostly clean racing.



You did put yourself in that position. You were slow off the first chicane and then decided to take middle of the track? Pick a side and let the faster cars drive by. Its the first lap at Monza, you'll likely get those positions back, it's not overly difficult track to pass on and the risk of being in a collision is much higher as you experienced.
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Yes, I was coming out of the sand trap after getting punted in T1, avoided the car that then slowed down to serve a penalty, wanted to move over to the left to get out of the way yet a car appeared there, then wanted to wait a bit to the right as the car on the right behind me seemed to ghost, yet he unghosted and then I already was in the middle.

I should have slowed down, however it was not a race I wanted to be in the back of as match making put a **** room together. It was carnage in the back. I actually got another 5 sec on lap 2 at the second chicane with people messing up in front of me, had to serve 15 seconds to drop back to 9th, then had a further clean race (dodging more wrecks and punt attempts) to finish 3rd.

Anyway that race even some SR.S people dropped to SR.B, you really did not want to be in the back half there, what a joke room.
 
Sven Jurgens
Here's a little clip of how to lose mucho SR in a couple of seconds.

I already got punted in T1 yet that's a given, started 2nd in that race, laggy 1 bar connection in 3rd did not brake in time.
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I can't blame you for sticking with it but that's usually what happens when you get boxed in the middle while running three wide on a narrow course. I didn't see any malicious behavior during that part, but that's why I avoid getting boxed in like that. It's not really driving; at that point it's just reacting to what the guy on either side of you is doing and trying not to get ping ponged to death.
 
BallPtPenTheif
I can't blame you for sticking with it but that's usually what happens when you get boxed in the middle while running three wide on a narrow course. I didn't see any malicious behavior during that part, but that's why I avoid getting boxed in like that. It's not really driving; at that point it's just reacting to what the guy on either side of you is doing and trying not to get ping ponged to death.
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Yeah it was a case of misinformation on my part. When I checked the mirror I saw the car on the right ghosting and assumed he was slowing down to serve a penalty, yet maybe that was just a glitch as when I looked again he was solid and next to me, then it was just holding on for the ride.

Assumption is the mother of all failures. I wish it was more clear when a car is slowing down for a penalty or just ghosting for no reason...
 
Alpha Cipher
Monza is an SR killer; I expect my SR do go down by at least a level whenever I race there

proceeds ro race there 10 times anyway
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Do you think they should just make cars auto ghost in chicanes? Have things reached that point yet?
 
Had some good races there but i always wait with the first corner and then take 10 people there. Pole would be very scarry haha
 
PorscheHD
Had some good races there but i always wait with the first corner and then take 10 people there. Pole would be very scarry haha
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Actually it's not a bad place to start, more so the slower the car is mind, I'd imagine you'll get swamped in Gr.1 for instance. You cover the inside so if you do get hit it's not too bad, maybe a dumb penalty but that's it unless it's a proper idiot not braking at all and no one in their right mind will try to go around the outside of you as they'll just get hit off.

Starting a few places behind is far worse as you are careful to not hit the guys at the front and someone quite a bit back is caught out by this and hits someone and then dominoes starts whilst the first couple usual drive off without any major trouble.
 
Sven Jurgens
I had a few decent races, unfortunately the last 2 were dirty and in those 2 races I dropped from 99 SR to 56 SR.
Here's a little clip of how to lose mucho SR in a couple of seconds.

I already got punted in T1 yet that's a given, started 2nd in that race, laggy 1 bar connection in 3rd did not brake in time.
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You are far more brave than I !!!! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
I tend to drive pretty defensively at Monza, at least for the first 1/2 lap or so until everyone gets sorted out as good as possible. Even doing so you can run the first lap and not be too far back because of all the penalties and everyone going off-roading. I have even taken to covering the brake pedal and watching my rearview mirror in braking zones so if I get nerfed in the rar I usually just go wide instead of off. I only raced there once yesterday but stayed at 99 SR but I lost a few DR points, I didn't qualify fast and didn't have time to run a few more laps, I knew I only had time for 1 race. For the life of me I just cant figure out why people do not know where the braking zones are, especially for the first chicane and on lap 1 you have to brake early if you not the lead car or else you will hit someone. I mean the first chicane isn't even a good place to pass, far from it, why not just follow everyone thru and pass elsewhere??? Brains=its not for GT-S dailys.
 
ASH32
Starting a few places behind is far worse as you are careful to not hit the guys at the front and someone quite a bit back is caught out by this and hits someone and then dominoes starts whilst the first couple usual drive off without any major trouble.
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Usually they bottleneck at the apex. If you're careful you can take an outside line and try to coast through once everyone has collided and ghosted. By taking a late brake, late apex approach; it leaves an inside hole and everyone darts to it for the barge pass colliding into each other. It's still a crap shoot but I've made it through the chicane with only a few bumps approaching it this way.

My biggest cause for penalties on this course are weave blocking idiots who will make as many as 3 or 4 defensive moves on the straight only to weave block into my braking line last minute, resulting in me ramming them off of the course and taking a penalty. I don't see what they get out of driving that way other than punted off of the course, but people are weird.
 
BallPtPenTheif
Usually they bottleneck at the apex. If you're careful you can take an outside line and try to coast through once everyone has collided and ghosted. By taking a late brake, late apex approach; it leaves an inside hole and everyone darts to it for the barge pass colliding into each other. It's still a crap shoot but I've made it through the chicane with only a few bumps approaching it this way.

My biggest cause for penalties on this course are weave blocking idiots who will make as many as 3 or 4 defensive moves on the straight only to weave block into my braking line last minute, resulting in me ramming them off of the course and taking a penalty. I don't see what they get out of driving that way other than punted off of the course, but people are weird.
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You have to be careful for cheaters as well on Monza. Yesterday one of my incidents was in the second chicance. I had a better exit from T1 (late race) and passed the car in front on the way to the second chicance. He was still hanging on next to my rear bumper, me on the inside, him outside. I brake on time to make the corner, he doesn't, steers into me to bump off me and takes a free pass ignoring the chicane. I get a penalty, he gets a free shortcut. He was going too fast to take the chicane, just timed it right to hit me in such a way the penalty system thought it was me hitting him.... I reported him after the race, not that that does anything...

There's plenty people trying that in T1 at the start as well. Come flying into T1, bump off the nose of a car turning in normally and 50% chance they get a free short cut, just need to miss the reset point and make it look like the other car T-boned you. I've seen it happen too often now to believe it's just dumb luck anymore.
 
xxxman1
Raced 5 times and all end with Sr up without 1st chicane issue. But I was sent to sand at race 2 and 4 at 2nd chicane and Ascari respectively. Both put me to the last place after rejoined the race. What frustrated me was both dive-bombers finished ahead of me. 10 seconds penalty is not enough. It took me more than 10s to rejoin the race. Though I didn’t get any penalty for that 2 bumps.
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@xxxman1 is that screenshot a personal spreadsheet you use to track race results?
 
I’ll probably get trashed for this but I think Monza is overrated. Two painful chicanes and some boring straights. The Lesmo is alright and the fast chicane(Ascari?) and parabolica are alright though.

Should be good for overtaking but since the slipstream effect is so low, it just becomes another braking contest.

I honestly would’ve preferred another fantasy track instead:boggled:
 
Sander 001
I’ll probably get trashed for this but I think Monza is overrated. Two painful chicanes and some boring straights. The Lesmo is alright and the fast chicane(Ascari?) and parabolica are alright though.

Should be good for overtaking but since the slipstream effect is so low, it just becomes another braking contest.

I honestly would’ve preferred another fantasy track instead:boggled:
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i agree with you Monza is a boring fest , along with a SR murderer
 

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