Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[Nakano219]

For those who want GT7 on PC, here you go.

First Gran Turismo 7 PC Gameplay Surfaces Using Custom KytyPS5 PS5 Emulator Build

With Sony shelving plans for an official PC port Gran Turismo 7, one of the few games from the Nvidia driver leak years ago that never did surface on PC, unfortunately, the emulation community has…

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It runs like crap even on a monster PC and I’m not sure how they are connecting to the servers, but the AI helpers will probably figure it out.

It's a bit depressing how the video game community was anti-AI, and then suddenly as soon as it can be used for console warring (or in the case of these "ports" PC-versus-consoles warring) suddenly it's all A-OK and everyone's fine with it.

 

[RACECAR]

It's a bit depressing how the video game community was anti-AI, and then suddenly as soon as it can be used for console warring (or in the case of these "ports" PC-versus-consoles warring) suddenly it's all A-OK and everyone's fine with it.

And now, its causing distrust amongst the Community last I checked.

 

[LeMansLambo14]

It's a bit depressing how the video game community was anti-AI, and then suddenly as soon as it can be used for console warring (or in the case of these "ports" PC-versus-consoles warring) suddenly it's all A-OK and everyone's fine with it.

Yup, it's a shame it's being used for builds like this that are just wrong. Just buy a console if you really respect GT man, y'know what I mean?

 

[IngWeltschmer]

For the series I'm doing, I have found abit of a workaround for this: You save the race settings, you actually save the grid you've already set up. This is something that helped quite abit with testing and BOP as all I had to do was load those settings and then proceed to change the track or laps (Or the weather). I'm at a point where I now have custom settings for each round so when those come up, I have the distance and time cycles setup the way I want from the get go and likewise, all the cars without having to sift through my garage.

Yes, that's the same way I try do to it (for example, I tested the transmission ratios on SSRX by loading the race configuration that was defined for Tokyo), but what if I want to see all the cars I engine swapped? What if I want to see all those I widebodied? Or a folder with "meme cars" (a yellow evo, a pink GR yaris, the Avantime with the huge F1 wing and stickers to make it look like it's wooden), a folder with "RMs" from the previous games and so on. Imho, the best way for them would be to allow us to label our cars inside the garage, just like we can name the tunes (which are fixed to the exact car as far as I rmember, i.e., if I save a tune for a Viper Gr3, then I buy a second Gr3, it should not have that previous tune available, right?)

 

[snc]

It's a bit depressing how the video game community was anti-AI, and then suddenly as soon as it can be used for console warring (or in the case of these "ports" PC-versus-consoles warring) suddenly it's all A-OK and everyone's fine with it.

It's even funnier when they frame piracy as a fight against Sony going all digital 😆

 

[Fezzik]

It's even funnier when they frame piracy as a fight against Sony going all digital 😆

Especially as they've now hacked the Switch 2, with Nintendo being the last big defender of physical games.

 

[RobertHammer]

Especially as they've now hacked the Switch 2, with Nintendo being the last big defender of physical games.

well "defender" - Game-Key cards are physical but only a licence on them

 

[hawkeyez]

Seeing this screenshot made me angry at PD for the total lack of categorization and tagging in the game. If they gave us the possibility to use our own self-defined tags and folders for our own garage, it would increase QoL by a lot. Just think of people who create their own racing series and then have to scroll through the entire garage to add them! The other day, I did a "F1 swapped brick race" where I put the Espace, the StepWgn, the Alphard LFA (ok, not a proper F1 but still) and had to scroll through the garage to add each of those...
At least, add a tag to ngine swapped cars so they are easily findable! It is clear they are internally flagged in some way, since engine name is in green and they are forbidden from entry in sport mode.

Yep it’s ridiculous. The only way we have to sort of categorize them is via liveries. We had a Mustang vs Mini thing and I just painted my Mustang and Mini exactly the same. Or my grand am tunes I tried to make my paint jobs similar.

And I’m sure some custom folders wouldn’t be that hard to do. It’s like they don’t even bother or we’re all playing the game not how they want us too lol

 

[kjb]

It's even funnier when they frame piracy as a fight against Sony going all digital 😆

They have to justify their behavior and frame themselves as the good guys against the big bad mean vidoegame company

 

[MroczMR]

It's a bit depressing how the video game community was anti-AI, and then suddenly as soon as it can be used for console warring (or in the case of these "ports" PC-versus-consoles warring) suddenly it's all A-OK and everyone's fine with it.

My biggest worry is that this tools will be used to create more and more sophisticated cheats and this will kill fun for those who want a fair multiplayer game.

 

[hawkeyez]

My biggest worry is that this tools will be used to create more and more sophisticated cheats and this will kill fun for those who want a fair multiplayer game.

I would be ok if it was used to eliminate cheating.

 

[MroczMR]

I would be ok if it was used to eliminate cheating.

Yes, but unfortunately it can be used both ways.

 

[hawkeyez]

Yes, but unfortunately it can be used both ways.

Well not having it sure isn’t working haha. Those cheaters always find a way, because they can’t play a game or can’t stand to lose so they get setup so their computer plays the game for them. That DSSL5 or whatever it’s called looks pretty crazy too and isn’t that AI? Isn’t Sony PS6 going to have some kind of AI upscaling?

 

[Ande3200]

I think we soon are overdue to see a trailer for next gt which I think happen for 30th year anniversary next year. It could be nice to have more new refreshing single player again, I don’t mind starting from scratch If pd could make a more enjoyable single player than gt7 did.

I think we can consider ourself lucky gt7 has had as long support it has.

 

[hawkeyez]

I think we soon are overdue to see a trailer for next gt which I think happen for 30th year anniversary next year. It could be nice to have more new refreshing single player again, I don’t mind starting from scratch If pd could make a more enjoyable single player than gt7 did.

I think we can consider ourself lucky gt7 has had as long support it has.

I will agree with this. The single player part of GT7 didn’t really draw me in at all and most of the time it felt like work. Hmmm, race with a friend or two or three online or drive around the track alone? I’ll always pick driving around with friends.

It always feels like collecting the cars is the name of the game. I wish there was some more focus on moving up through the ranks and unlocking cars rather than do mostly random races to earn credits to buy cars.

Start me at the bottom, I win races, move up in tiers all while opening new classes. GT Legends is a very good example of this. It was exciting and then you had to decide, so I buy the Pantera or the Capri or whatever. Eventually getting them all.

Sometimes Gran Turismo just feels like you’re aimlessly doing races and the name of the game is credits to collect it all. Meh.

 

[CTznOfTime]

I will disagree with the last 2 previous post above me

I see GT7 to be similar to Zelda BOTW in the sense that it feels like an open world and choose your own adventure, and have your own freedom in motivation.

I have tried to like Forza Horizon open world or other similar games, but I think I have gotten old and found them to be childish .. heck why getting points when you ram through trees, poles, gates and destroy properties in said open world... How is that thrilling.... It is childish.
It should be that you get points deducted for destroying the world Round you.

I like the clean respectful and chill vibe of GT7, and you stay focused on enjoying the car, doing clean and fast laps, without trying to push each other like savages...

I guess it must be an age thing...

And What's with all the UI in Forza Horizon that looks so disorganized colors all over, nothing is harmonious.
It is so cluttered.

It's a style thing. Two completely different philosophy.

Personally I find GT7 to be fine as is and there are still plenty of life in it, none of us has barely scratched the surface I guarantee you.

If they come out with GT8 next year I am not going to say no, why would I ?

But what I am saying is that, unless Kaz is really short on money, they really don't need to, and I would prefer they deliver a good polished product for once rather than rush ...

Of course they could always push out something for something sake ... Then add updates as done in this past several years... But how would you all feel ?

Probably continue to moan and complain as usual...

IMHO


Edit: Forza graphics and car design have come a long way... But when compared to GT, especially in past games, there is just NO debate.
The Forza cars still look below par, no passion or dedication, definitely rushed because of money (I get it, but I give priority to quality, and applaud PD for doing the right thing).

That was in the past.

With FH6 today, I recognize the cars look so much better !!
But the lighting and reflections still feels off in certain cases.
They have at least gotten to an acceptable level, but still not on par with GT.

But I am happy the game is keeping you happy.
The two should not be compared tho. Slightly Different mindsets.

 

[hawkeyez]

I will disagree with the last 2 previous post above me

I see GT7 to be similar to Zelda BOTW in the sense that it feels like an open world and choose your own adventure, and have your own freedom in motivation.

I have tried to like Forza Horizon open world or other similar games, but I think I have gotten old and found them to be childish .. heck why getting points when you ram through trees, poles, gates and destroy properties in said open world... How is that thrilling.... It is childish.
It should be that you get points deducted for destroying the world Round you.

I like the clean respectful and chill vibe of GT7, and you stay focused on enjoying the car, doing clean and fast laps, without trying to push each other like savages...

I guess it must be an age thing...

And What's with all the UI in Forza Horizon that looks so disorganized colors all over, nothing is harmonious.
It is so cluttered.

It's a style thing. Two completely different philosophy.

Personally I find GT7 to be fine as is and there are still plenty of life in it, none of us has barely scratched the surface I guarantee you.

If they come out with GT8 next year I am not going to say no, why would I ?

But what I am saying is that, unless Kaz is really short on money, they really don't need to, and I would prefer they deliver a good polished product for once rather than rush ...

Of course they could always push out something for something sake ... Then add updates as done in this past several years... But how would you all feel ?

Probably continue to moan and complain as usual...

IMHO


Edit: Forza graphics and car design have come a long way... But when compared to GT, especially in past games, there is just NO debate.
The Forza cars still look below par, no passion or dedication, definitely rushed because of money (I get it, but I give priority to quality, and applaud PD for doing the right thing).

That was in the past.

With FH6 today, I recognize the cars look so much better !!
But the lighting and reflections still feels off in certain cases.
They have at least gotten to an acceptable level, but still not on par with GT.

But I am happy the game is keeping you happy.
The two should not be compared tho. Slightly Different mindsets.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with the way it’s now. It works. It’s just not very exciting to play. It’s almost simply random races. Nothing wrong with having a little progression to the game. Maybe I played it wrong but it didn’t feel linear at all with any kind of goal in mind. Besides the championship races and it was annoying I could pause those. Sometimes I just didn’t have the time to complete in one sitting.

To each their own I guess.

 

[Theufcveteran]

I don’t think there is anything wrong with the way it’s now. It works. It’s just not very exciting to play. It’s almost simply random races. Nothing wrong with having a little progression to the game. Maybe I played it wrong but it didn’t feel linear at all with any kind of goal in mind. Besides the championship races and it was annoying I could pause those. Sometimes I just didn’t have the time to complete in one sitting.

To each their own I guess.

Maybe even they could patch in a light narrative throughline into GT7. Something where Sarah, Luca, or some other new characters discuss the kinds of races you're going to take part in, from a racing career perspective, the path you're taking, and the goal of racing in the fastest cars out there. But GT is not a pure motorsport game, so maybe that would not match GT entirely.

It would be cool if Luca is your "guy" and if you bring a road car against Gr.3/Gr.2/Gr.1 cars, he's like "Yeah I know these guys have massive downforce but we have a massive engine lol"

 

[CTznOfTime]

I don't know man... Why do we need a story or a plot ?

Sounds to me that some of you just want GTA6 rather than GT7.

It's just racing....
Give me a car, give me a track and I will just drive until I get the best possible time...

I guess when it comes to driving, I am more like Kimi



I don't need someone in my lap telling what to do...

 

[Nakano219]

I somewhat agree with @CTznOfTime - I personally really like that the cars are the stars of a GT playthrough rather than it being you the driver like it is in every other racing game ever made. I think that's why I never really connected with GT5 - that's the game where the drivers take more of a starring role what with B-spec and the famous driver cutscenes, and it's just not what I'm really here for.

I just also think that they can do something more with that than the now 30 year old formula of having a grid of vaguely connected races you work through because they're what's on the screen, or in GT7's case a grid of unconnected races you work through with cutscenes anyone who's ever played a previous GT or knows anything about cars will skip through.

 

[05XR8]

The cutscenes I do like are for the different regions. Those being new to the series, initially felt special.

It’s ironic that players don’t have the option to use those PD built cars, but in the Power Pack, players have the option to use cars built by PD.

 

[LeMansLambo14]

Like with everything else, there is a balance. You don't want the player to feel like a hero on day 1, yet you don't want them to plough through endless levels or a pointless sandbox. Likewise, there should be some reward to collecting cars and unlocking events, but but it can't be too hard or easy.

This is something GT has always struggled with, and it's good that they are at least reaching a broad audience with their current setup. But their needs to be an option where a "hardcore" player can enjoy a proper career mode with real racing and a competitive feel. This was essentially the Power Pack, but a story mode? I think it would be worth a try, but it would have to be optional.

I think the main reason PD has stuck with the chase-the-rabbit races is mainly for the sake of a less skilled audience. The more people who can enjoy GT7, the better. Now that we have the Power Pack, I'm curious to see what Family Mode is like. I'm competitive at heart, so I value good single-player content to enjoy other than online racing.

I hope GT can stay strong with good content in the coming years, whether it's in GT7's updates or a brand new title

 

[Antonio_22]

For those who want GT7 on PC, here you go.

First Gran Turismo 7 PC Gameplay Surfaces Using Custom KytyPS5 PS5 Emulator Build

With Sony shelving plans for an official PC port Gran Turismo 7, one of the few games from the Nvidia driver leak years ago that never did surface on PC, unfortunately, the emulation community has…

www.eteknix.com

It runs like crap even on a monster PC and I’m not sure how they are connecting to the servers, but the AI helpers will probably figure it out.

An online server that runs locally was released today, making all the game modes accessible. The developer says online multiplayer racing is in development, utilising the LAN mode. 😮

 

[CTznOfTime]

Like with everything else, there is a balance. You don't want the player to feel like a hero on day 1, yet you don't want them to plough through endless levels or a pointless sandbox. Likewise, there should be some reward to collecting cars and unlocking events, but but it can't be too hard or easy.

This is something GT has always struggled with, and it's good that they are at least reaching a broad audience with their current setup. But their needs to be an option where a "hardcore" player can enjoy a proper career mode with real racing and a competitive feel. This was essentially the Power Pack, but a story mode? I think it would be worth a try, but it would have to be optional.

I think the main reason PD has stuck with the chase-the-rabbit races is mainly for the sake of a less skilled audience. The more people who can enjoy GT7, the better. Now that we have the Power Pack, I'm curious to see what Family Mode is like. I'm competitive at heart, so I value good single-player content to enjoy other than online racing.

I hope GT can stay strong with good content in the coming years, whether it's in GT7's updates or a brand new title

Perfectly stated and summarized.

And that's why we need and we deserve the next title, GT8 to, not only incorporate the old formula, but also need to be innovative, not just copy others, but to provide with new ways to enjoy the game, and to guide the players in ways that is not so dry as right now in progressing in the game for some of you.... (I love the Cafe type of GT7 because I am an old man / spirit at heart, and it is reminiscing of the cars and coffee vibe, chill)
I understand some find that cafe boring, but I find it unique and no other games give it like that)
I understand some younger souls wants something more exciting, and GT7 does offer it with the meets and the gathering, unfortunately that's behind a paid wall, or requires subscription, which I believe most of you young folks should have, but still unfair that is required to be paid.

It is a very tricky situation and difficult to strike the right balance in trying to please everyone...

I don't want a race towards the bottom and have a similar arcadey open world experience like every other games out there .. let those games be what they are.

To me, GT needs to be that game that strives to push you to race towards the top, and yet remain accessible to most people, without having to build an entire computer...

GT8 needs to be a new formula that we have not seen anywhere else.

 

[hawkeyez]

I don't know man... Why do we need a story or a plot ?

Sounds to me that some of you just want GTA6 rather than GT7, It's just racing....

Give me a car, give me a track and I will just drive until I get the best possible time...

I guess when it comes to driving, I am more like Kimi



I don't need someone in my lap telling what to do...

It’s been awhile, but have you ever played GT Legends? There wasn’t really any story or anything like that. You started with low class cars, had to race a season or whatever you’d call it in say a mini or cortina, to unlock the next class. I know gran turismo sort of does this already but it was more like the championships of GT7 and not the cafe races (here’s a random challenge) type of thing.

Maybe they could do a decades approach. Championships but in the 50’s then 60’s then 70’s then 80’s etc. that would be epic. You could decide which ones to do first. Keeps with the vibe of gran turismo imo. History of the card etc.

I’m just spit balling ideas. Reason? I really wasn’t personally drawn to any of the single player racing aspect of this game.

I definitely don’t want any narration and if there is any, make it short as I’m with you, I just want to race. The difference being I want to feel like I’m accomplishing something other than earning credits. It was a good feeling in GT Legends to finally win the championship or season and unlock the next group of cars. Being able to see, just a few more and I can buy that Pantera!

I’m with you on get to the racing. I skip all call of duty cut scenes etc. I want the game to progress me through and tell a little bit of a story. I don’t want to watch a movie when I sit down to game.