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[MroczMR]

True, there have been other Stealth cars, though the pattern was that the Manufacturers Cup ones were always a Gr.3 (which makes sense as it's on-theme), but the Nations Cup ones were looking to follow the GT4 secret black car roster up until Singapore.


While technically possible for both of the 2 remaining car slots at the Grand Final event to be the R92CP and a R390 GT1, the Manufacturers Cup one would most likely remain a Gr.3 car as it always has this year.
It would be odd for the R92CP to not be chosen for the Singapore live event if the pattern was a legitimate hint/teaser. Why have the Super Formula replace it, just because it's being used in the SUGO qualifying race? It's not like the car in that race is new, only the track.

While I would love to see the Nissan R390 GT1 return at some point, I now doubt this theory is the way it happens. It already seemed like a bit of a stretch & tinfoil hat idea, but it's likely just a funny coincidence with the Toyota GT-One & Mazda 787B, now that there wasn't an R92CP for Singapore.
But I hope I'm wrong.

As you see from the discussion below, the Ford GT already broke the Manufacturer series theme, since Ford has not been a part of manufacturer cup.

It is still possible imho. Off course yhis is just debating. We both don’t know what Kaz will think next sure thing that the last 6 cars of spec iv could be exciting.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

 

[Ande3200]

Will it be ok to open a thread to predict the last 6 cars I suspect the 6 cars already shown will be part of the October update.

 

[Famine]

Will it be ok to open a thread to predict the last 6 cars I suspect the 6 cars already shown will be part of the October update.

As we already have a Spec IV thread - and predictions threads are used for update threads once the update details are announced - what exactly is wrong with putting it in there as others already have?

 

[05XR8]

So, the XR8 would fit in Gr.3.

 

[PSN offapple]

One of the tracks currently absent from the Tracks Suggestion Forum.
A lot more of a traditional city street circuit compared to the highway circuits of Tokyo Expressway & Special Stage Route 5/7/11.
I do wonder if we'll see a street circuit in this sort of style again, with how much longer they take to develop than the already-long development process for regular countryside circuits.
Long Beach has become surprisingly common in other modern racing games, maybe because it's quite short & next to the ocean, but at Polyphony's level-of-detail even that would be a huge challenge I'd imagine.

 

[VlackSiper12]

True, there have been other Stealth cars, though the pattern was that the Manufacturers Cup ones were always a Gr.3 (which makes sense as it's on-theme), but the Nations Cup ones were looking to follow the GT4 secret black car roster up until Singapore.
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While technically possible for both of the 2 remaining car slots at the Grand Final event to be the R92CP and a R390 GT1, the Manufacturers Cup one would most likely remain a Gr.3 car as it always has this year.
It would be odd for the R92CP to not be chosen for the Singapore live event if the pattern was a legitimate hint/teaser. Why have the Super Formula replace it, just because it's being used in the SUGO qualifying race? It's not like the car in that race is new, only the track.

While I would love to see the Nissan R390 GT1 return at some point, I now doubt this theory is the way it happens. It already seemed like a bit of a stretch & tinfoil hat idea, but it's likely just a funny coincidence with the Toyota GT-One & Mazda 787B, now that there wasn't an R92CP for Singapore.
But I hope I'm wrong.

Yeah, it was always "it's worth keeping an eye out to see if this third car keeps this speculative trend" rather than "this is definitely happening".

Also, on the other side of the rewards, anyone else think the Ford is an off-piste choice of car? Ford aren't in Manufacturers, and they aren't particularly close a partner to PD in the way manufacturers of the campaign cars usually are.

Not saying it means anything whatsoever, before anyone reads too much into me saying this - I just wonder how they came to choose that car specifically as the giveaway.

I'm gonna really reach on this observation and take, but with some of the cars from this year's viewers choice, we've gotten cars from one of the manufacturers that were on the viewers choice in the next update.


The example being the Porsche 911 GT3 (992), we ended up getting the 963 and the 911 safety car the update after Round 1, and with the Toyota FT-1 VGT Gr 3 being one of the prizes from the manufacturer cup viewing, we ended up getting the Chaser Tourer V and Mark II Tourer V after Round 2.

The car for the manufacturers viewer campaign is the Ford GT Race car and it had seem to get a car from said manufacturer in the next update after the GTWS round. Again, I'm just reaching and grasping a lot of straws with this observation and nothing is certainly concrete, especially since this is PD we're talking about here, but I thought it was a fun observation.

 

[05XR8]

One of the tracks currently absent from the Tracks Suggestion Forum.
A lot more of a traditional city street circuit compared to the highway circuits of Tokyo Expressway & Special Stage Route 5/7/11.
I do wonder if we'll see a street circuit in this sort of style again, with how much longer they take to develop than the already-long development process for regular countryside circuits.
Long Beach has become surprisingly common in other modern racing games, maybe because it's quite short & next to the ocean, but at Polyphony's level-of-detail even that would be a huge challenge I'd imagine.

PD doing CGV kind of helps. They could do Long Beach as well as Albert Park.

 

[PSN offapple]

PD doing CGV kind of helps. They could do Long Beach as well as Albert Park.

...oh yeah, for some reason Albert Park being found in a Scapes Datamine alongside Circuit Gilles Villeneuve slipped my mind.
That one is a parkland street circuit, with the city buildings not directly next to the track unlike a Tokyo R246, so that'll help Polyphony. CGV being on an island has a similar benefit.

I saw some comments that the version of Sportsland SUGO we're getting is apparently from 2023, just after the new pit buildings were constructed & the lane adjusted/widened.
The most recent changes to Albert Park were in 2021 according to Wikipedia, which predates its discovery in the Scapes datamine (2022). Those changes were the widening of the track in places, and some layout reprofiling to speed the lap up.

 

[05XR8]

...oh yeah, for some reason Albert Park being found in a Scapes Datamine alongside Circuit Gilles Villeneuve slipped my mind.
That one is a parkland street circuit, with the city buildings not directly next to the track unlike a Tokyo R246, so that'll help Polyphony. CGV being on an island has a similar benefit.

I saw some comments that the version of Sportsland SUGO we're getting is apparently from 2023, just after the new pit buildings were constructed & the lane adjusted/widened.
The most recent changes to Albert Park were in 2021 according to Wikipedia, which predates its discovery in the Scapes datamine (2022). Those changes were the widening of the track in places, and some layout reprofiling to speed the lap up.

Plus, PD being in Australia for scanning Mount Panorama and the Melbourne Scapes. Whether they did both at the same time or not, we don’t know. Just some thoughts in the Speculation thread.

Sooooooo, we can scratch CGV and Yas Marina off the list. Can we believe some of the speculations?

I brought up Albert Park in another thread. PD have added classic Formula One cars from nearly every decade in GT7. Since the 1950s Albert Park been used off and on as an F1 circuit. It’s taken over duties as the Australian GP from when Adelaide last hosted the Grand Prix in ‘95(?). The last two circuits added to GT7 are indeed current F1 circuit locations on the F1 calendar.

The Albert Park Scapes locations are before 2018. We know this by the Etihad Stadium signage. That was changed to Marvel Studios on September 1,2018. That year’s F1 race was March 25(hey, my oldest son’s birthday!), 2018.
Since it’s a high use public road during the rest of the year, it’d be interesting to know when they shot the photos and if they did scan the circuit, when?

Etihad Stadium had the naming rights from 2009-2018. We saw Mount Panorama being scanned in beginning of March 2012.

Bathurst Circuit Scanned for Gran Turismo 6

GTPlanet's scouts have been out and about on Mount Panorama and can report significant news.

www.gtplanet.net

If PD were attending the Australian GP that year, they might have had access to scan Albert Park before the event on March 18, 2012. A crew could have flown(about an hour) or more likely driven(less than 10 hours) with their equipment to Bathurst. Then, made it back to Albert Park to scan the circuit. It takes a while to build the circuit, but easy to access before construction and after it’s dismantled. I took some photos when I lived there.
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I mean, PD could scan the layout at any time, but with the timing of the rumours and the actual Scape timing possibilities of when they took the photos, seems like a lot of trouble to be there and not take advantage of scanning the layout.

 

[bduddy]

One of the tracks currently absent from the Tracks Suggestion Forum.
A lot more of a traditional city street circuit compared to the highway circuits of Tokyo Expressway & Special Stage Route 5/7/11.
I do wonder if we'll see a street circuit in this sort of style again, with how much longer they take to develop than the already-long development process for regular countryside circuits.
Long Beach has become surprisingly common in other modern racing games, maybe because it's quite short & next to the ocean, but at Polyphony's level-of-detail even that would be a huge challenge I'd imagine.

R246 is one of the few city tracks I think has a realistic chance to come back, because it being so close to PD headquarters takes away a lot of the issues with being able to properly scan/model it. It's still a lot more effort than most permanent/fantasy tracks would be, but I think they might just see Tokyo as being worth it.

 

[tankuroded]

News from Asian Games:

 

[Greatbee]

R246 is one of the few city tracks I think has a realistic chance to come back, because it being so close to PD headquarters takes away a lot of the issues with being able to properly scan/model it. It's still a lot more effort than most permanent/fantasy tracks would be, but I think they might just see Tokyo as being worth it.

One of my favorite city tracks!

 

[LeMansLambo14]

So, the XR8 would fit in Gr.3.

Sorry but I think I missed the memo. Could you explain for me please?

How does this imply the XR8 would fit in Gr.3?

 

[05XR8]

Sorry but I think I missed the memo. Could you explain for me please?

How does this imply the XR8 would fit in Gr.3?

In the X video below, at R246, despite the XR8 being about 200kg heavier, rides on 17" wheels and doesn't have the same downforce, it's in the group of JGTC GT 500 cars.

Looking at Mount Panorama lap times compared to GT3(AMG GT3 pole time of 2:01 at the 2026 Bathurst 12H) and GT4(Mustang GT4 2:15 at the 2024 GT4 race) the XR8 is slower(2:09 pole lap at the 2002 Bathurst 1000) than a GT3 car, but much quicker than a GT4 car. If I were to guess it's performance in GT7, I'd place it about same pace over a lap, as one of the slower GR.3 cars.
Gr.3 Alfa 4C?

 

[Lilium]

If I remember correctly, unfortunately in GT4 the XR8 always stayed in last place with gt500's. usually with a gap.
But I did loved it as a child when I first saw it in GT3.

But I'm all for it to having Australian V8's in the game. Fun cars and category.
I remember racing them on Grid Autosport and it was a pretty fun category to race. The real races look super fun and eventful, but unfortunately, they are super under-represented.

 

[05XR8]

I read you, but trying to hide a real race car's 600hp in a Gr.4 BoP(leave the dang Veryon out of the discussion ), I'd be like:

 

[Lilium]

Haha, I bet.

If they added a holden or any other competitor together with it, at least custom races / lobby races would be possible.
Or even the ocasional Sport A race with the pair.

 

[05XR8]

I would really be tempted to get PS+ again, if both those brands returned.