Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.49 Revealed: Eiger Nordwand to Return, Plus Six New Cars

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Probably not the most popular opinion but I love GTs own tracks. They just have a great feel.

I like a few of them. And I can think of a few I’d have picked over Lake Luise and Eiger Nordwand however I know this is personal preference and not something we all have to agree on. ;)
 
🤷‍♂️that’s not what I said.
I mean, calling them non-racetracks sort of implies they're not for racing? It's fine to prefer real racetracks but it's silly to insinuate they're not racetracks because you don't like them.
 
I mean, calling them non-racetracks sort of implies they're not for racing? It's fine to prefer real racetracks but it's silly to insinuate they're not racetracks because you don't like them.

Semantics I guess, but I wouldn’t call a coastal highway a racetrack even if you do in fact race on it in the game. Much like my block isn’t a racetrack even if I drive around it really quickly.

When I think of a racetrack I think of Spa or Laguna Seca or Kyoto to bring up a fictional one.

I do realize my argument falls apart a bit when you think of tracks like Monaco 😂

Anyway, the recent track output doesn’t appeal to me, but I’m happy for everybody who is looking forward to Eiger.

And who knows - I might eat my words and really dig it in 2 days.
 
To be honest, even though Lake Louise is a cool track as an idea, I haven't enjoyed it, but that mostly falls on GT7's current awful rally physics.

I'm hoping that the update makes rallying better, which in turn would give me a reason to pay Lake Louise a visit.

Aside from that track, remember, the last one we could classify as a "circuit" came out all the way back in Feb 2023. That's 1½ years without a circuit.

I hope the next one we get is another fictional one, like Mid-Field, Red Rock Valley, Apricot Hill, or even Tokyo R246.
 
Semantics I guess, but I wouldn’t call a coastal highway a racetrack even if you do in fact race on it in the game. Much like my block isn’t a racetrack even if I drive around it really quickly.

When I think of a racetrack I think of Spa or Laguna Seca or Kyoto to bring up a fictional one.

I do realize my argument falls apart a bit when you think of tracks like Monaco 😂

Anyway, the recent track output doesn’t appeal to me, but I’m happy for everybody who is looking forward to Eiger.

And who knows - I might eat my words and really dig it in 2 days.
I don't think it's semantics really, I think your point was pretty obvious and given one could assume it's your second language, it's clear what you meant :)

I agree with you in that a racetrack as you meant it is clearly meant as a purpose built circuit for racing, it will have kerbs and most likely grandstands (although Willow Springs...?) and aesthetically it will clearly exist solely to serve the purpose of being a racetrack, and not as you say a road that has been repurposed as a circuit to race on.

The less said about Monaco the better :lol:

In contrast though I actually quite like the more 'road' style tracks, and enjoyed Eiger in previous games so am quite looking forward to experiencing it in GT7 and in VR.
 
To be honest, even though Lake Louise is a cool track as an idea, I haven't enjoyed it, but that mostly falls on GT7's current awful rally physics.

I'm hoping that the update makes rallying better, which in turn would give me a reason to pay Lake Louise a visit.

Aside from that track, remember, the last one we could classify as a "circuit" came out all the way back in Feb 2023. That's 1½ years without a circuit.

I hope the next one we get is another fictional one, like Mid-Field, Red Rock Valley, Apricot Hill, or even Tokyo R246.
The rally circuits in GT games have always been terrible. Either Kaz has a fundamental misunderstanding about what rally racing is or he consciously rejects it. Rally racing in games can be fun...really fun! The Dirt Rally games have been fantastic even with very limited content and repetitive environments. Can we seriously not get a single legitimate rally stage in GT? Or if we must do circuits, something more resembling rally cross? Fisherman's Ranch & Colorado Springs are staggeringly awful circuits which I avoid at all costs - both of them completely devoid of character, enjoyment or even a passing resemblance to their real life setting, particularly for Colorado Springs. (Seriously, this is approximately where the radar map in game places the CO circuit...)

Lake Louise is somewhat novel, but I wouldn't even rank it as the best snow circuit in GT's history...and that's not saying a lot.
 
Patiently waiting for the patch notes to leak so we can learn more about the physics update

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The rally circuits in GT games have always been terrible. Either Kaz has a fundamental misunderstanding about what rally racing is or he consciously rejects it. Rally racing in games can be fun...really fun! The Dirt Rally games have been fantastic even with very limited content and repetitive environments. Can we seriously not get a single legitimate rally stage in GT? Or if we must do circuits, something more resembling rally cross? Fisherman's Ranch & Colorado Springs are staggeringly awful circuits which I avoid at all costs - both of them completely devoid of character, enjoyment or even a passing resemblance to their real life setting, particularly for Colorado Springs. (Seriously, this is approximately where the radar map in game places the CO circuit...)

Lake Louise is somewhat novel, but I wouldn't even rank it as the best snow circuit in GT's history...and that's not saying a lot.
I felt like GT5 was the best rallying we had, with the randomly-generated stages and the pace notes. With today's technology, I'd love for it to return. Or at least see more point-to-point time attack stages, even if they're on tarmac like at Goodwood - something I'd also like to see return. If I did have to pick a more iconic point-to-point course, I'd pick the Monte Carlo rally stage, alongside the more obvious Pikes Peak. Better yet, maybe PD could create their own rally stages, perhaps through iconic locales like Ronda, Spain.

For what it's worth, I think Colorado Springs' naming format implies another layout is coming at some point, just like we've seen with Sardegna and Dragon Trail.

EDIT: I also wonder if the new physics has something do with the new tires? I've noticed that not only do the new tires have a Michelin branding when buying them at the tuning shop - very similar to the Brembo-branded brake parts - but the models themselves look different, as they do appear to be actual Michelin tires as opposed to the current, more generic model. They're probably Pilot Sports of some variety.
 
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I felt like GT5 was the best rallying we had, with the randomly-generated stages and the pace notes. With today's technology, I'd love for it to return. Or at least see more point-to-point time attack stages, even if they're on tarmac like at Goodwood - something I'd also like to see return. If I did have to pick a more iconic point-to-point course, I'd pick the Monte Carlo rally stage, alongside the more obvious Pikes Peak. Better yet, maybe PD could create their own rally stages, perhaps through iconic locales like Ronda, Spain.

For what it's worth, I think Colorado Springs' naming format implies another layout is coming at some point, just like we've seen with Sardegna and Dragon Trail.

EDIT: I also wonder if the new physics has something do with the new tires? I've noticed that not only do the new tires have a Michelin branding when buying them at the tuning shop - very similar to the Brembo-branded brake parts - but the models themselves look different, as they do appear to be actual Michelin tires as opposed to the current, more generic model. They're probably Pilot Sports of some variety.
Some point to point time trial circuits would be fantastic. Col De Turini, PCH, Pikes Peak, Mt Akina (or whatever), some snowy forest route in Finland. Come on PD, please. I played GT5 a lot and I honestly don't remember the stages you are talking about. I'm sure I did them, but I guess they weren't memorable. I suspect we'll get Pikes Peak eventually, but I'm guessing PD wants to get the unique weather patterns right so I could understand it taking a while.

Also, I would totally be down for a Deep Forest and/or Trial Mountain snow circuit. I even photoshopped something to that effect a decade and a half ago when GT5 was the current title.
 
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I suspect we'll get Pikes Peak eventually, but I'm guessing PD wants to get the unique weather patterns right so I could understand it taking a while.
I also wonder if they're also trying to implement other relatively unique factors of Pikes Peak, such as the changes in air pressure and the lower oxygen at higher altitudes?
 
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To me lake louise feel better to drive than the rally tracks in gt7, even if the offroad physics is a bit off in gran turismo always has been, i have enjoyed them over the years, and i still rather have them than not at all, excited for the update just little over a day left.
 
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