Gran Turismo World Series discussion (2026 Nations Cup: 11-28 February)

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You’re right to be skeptical as IIRC, they’ve been wrong before. Interestingly they’ve just updated it to say race weather will be R05. Be ready for anything is probably the best bet.
A 5 min qualy in wet conditions will be absolute pandemonium. It will be fun too & real test of skill + patience. Nonetheless, I'm excited for Dragon Trail.

Even though I had to drive 27 laps to post a decent qualy time due to changing weather + drying track, it really felt like putting in quality practice for the upcoming event on Saurday.
 
I am glad that you did. Will have a look at it after your amazing Test lap times! 💪
Hey thank you Gorefast! But don't watch it 😅 I made a mistake in first lap, lost control, and caused the abandonment of PinkPuppyChump :( (if you are in the forums i'm really sorry, I never realized until I watched the replay).

How was it for you?
 
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Hmm, I wonder if a no-stop inters run will be a viable strategy for this one.
Depends on how quickly the track will dry, because if drying track is for less than 10 laps putting on softs will be too tricky (like at Red Bull Ring last time around).
 
Haven’t tried free practice yet but do you guys feels like it will be a similar scenario than the red bull ring last season?
Dry quali-> wet/inters drying race?
That’s what we were just discussing. GTStats are suggesting dry quali and R05 for the race, but it isn’t guaranteed to be accurate. It makes sense though
 
Haven’t tried free practice yet but do you guys feels like it will be a similar scenario than the red bull ring last season?
Dry quali-> wet/inters drying race?
I haven't tried it yet either, but it certainly sounds that way from @Uday9479's description.

I'll definitely be giving a 20-lap session in Free Practice a try later today when I get some game time. I'll be watching the moisture gauge closely to see when it drops below each of the tick marks, since those delimit the ranges where the different compounds are viable.
 
Hi, very impressed of your pole position time and your result in such high level competition.
This means that if I would be capable to drive properly this car can do it good things.

Just for my curiosity, did you race with TC0 or ?
I used TC2 because already at TC1 in some corner I could easily spin and not really capable to manage the acceleration to avoid that.

Any other specific setup you have chosen?
(sorry for my question, but just to understand how much poor is my capability...)
Hi bud, thank you for the kind words. I always race with TCS 0 and I was also using weak ABS, which I think made the biggest difference to my lap times. I also used +5 BB for better rotation. There is a nuance with the Renault since the last update, where it was rotating more than it used to.

The weak ABS would help the car stay neutral by invoking understeer to counter the +5 BB. It took some practice to realise what was going on. But for me personally, it worked very well and that set up suited my driving style.

The other effect the weak ABS had, was to make the tyre wear more even between the front and the back axle. Before, (even with +5 BB), I was experiencing much more tyre wear on the front axle at Road Atlanta. These settings will probably change completely for DT Gardens but they worked well for round 1. I'll share any setup benefits I find with both you and @Moose78 in the coming rounds.

Don't put yourself down, with regard to your ability. I've been driving for Renault for a while now. It's one of the most underrated Manufacturers in the game, but it takes some getting used to. Good luck in round 2!
 
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I haven't tried it yet either, but it certainly sounds that way from @Uday9479's description.

I'll definitely be giving a 20-lap session in Free Practice a try later today when I get some game time. I'll be watching the moisture gauge closely to see when it drops below each of the tick marks, since those delimit the ranges where the different compounds are viable.
Just ran one. IMs until lap 15 for the brave and 16 for everyone else. Softs until the end.

Is it random every time you guys are hopping in? If not, then we may be able to assume the race will be like this too.
 
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Hey thank you Gorefast! But don't watch it 😅 I made a mistake in first lap, lost control, and caused the abandonment of PinkPuppyChump :( (if you are in the forums i'm really sorry, I never realized until I watched the replay).

How was it for you?
I don't compete seriously but @tmtk motivated me to give it a try again. So I saw your training lap times and was deeply impressed. As you know I am slower and lower rated but among my fast friends you were in front.

My own race went great. High C lobby and although I had door 13 I started as second. Close and fair driving as I like it when faults get punished. Somehow I had problems to save my soft tyres but brought it home!
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So you can have fun, too, if you are slower as the fast people here. I am out while round 2 and will see whether I will return for another round. Greetings! ❣️
 
Qualified 5th last night which I was quite surprised with. I was 1 second off pole but it turned out the top 2 were miles ahead, I'll come to those two later.

I usually start on the harder compound even if I start near the front but I decided to try and run away. Got past a Lamborghini ahead of me who was on mediums and struggling badly. Ended up swapping around between 4th/5th/6th in the first stint, not really sure what everyone was doing with tyres. I let a Porsche past me because I thought he was on mediums, turned out he wasn't. But he was much faster than me anyway in the second stint, so I wasn't getting near him. Also had a big tiddy anime girl on the back of his car so he's clearly a no righter.

Pitted a lap after the Citroen in front of me in the hope I would get some clear air when I came out. 11 laps on softs was stretching it but I figured one extra lap would be better than getting held up or crashing. The Citroen spun on his outlap so I was in 4th until one Porsche caught me and went off at the chicane, before eventually being passed by another Porsche and ending up comfortably in 5th until the end.

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I actually managed to bait two people off the track here. On the first stint I was following a guy who just went deep. This picture was from the second stint, he was catching me (on softs vs. mediums so he fell away towards the end) so I went defensive. He braked too late and that was that. 162 points for finishing 5th and quite happy with that. Ended up 5 seconds off 3rd but 22 seconds off the top two so not really bothered.

And on that note, the guy who finished 2nd said "shame on you" to the winner in the chat, so naturally I had a look. They were on alternate tyre strategies. The eventual winner in a BMW was on softs and went for a move at the chicane on lap 19 or something. As he was accelerating out of the right hander he got some oversteer and bumped the other guy in a 296 off the track. He got a 3 second penalty right away, and by the time he served the penalty the 296 had caught up and was about a second behind.

Looking back at the replay I was in two minds. If it had been me doing that I would have stopped and given the position back, even after getting the penalty. They were miles ahead so nobody else was catching them, and if I had been chasing someone down for a win or a position I wouldn't have been satisfied getting it in those circumstances. At the same time, I can see the logic that the BMW got a penalty that largely cost him the same amount of time he gained, if not the same position on the track. Bit weird that an obvious mistake and punt felt a bit ambiguous as I was watching the replay, maybe I'm out of practice.
 
Just ran one. IMs until lap 15 for the brave and 16 for everyone else. Softs until the end.
Interesting. If it takes that long for the track to dry, I wonder if there is even any point to pitting for softs. It seems like it would be hard to make up for the time in the pits over 4 or 5 laps.
Is it random every time you guys are hopping in?
Not at all. I did a quick test earlier in the morning -- just a few enter-exit-reenter cycles in Free Practice. The weather pattern on the radar was exactly the same every time. I believe we are in for a scripted weather race like we had at Red Bull Ring last season.
 
Won't the track dry faster with 16 cars on it rather than 1?
Yeah. I expect so. That was the situation at Red Bull Ring last season, too. Even with the same weather pattern, what we see in Free Practice doesn't match what we'll see in the race. I feel like we are going to be relying pretty heavily on our Asian and Oceanian counterparts on race day to see what strategies work best.
 
I've been railing against it for years (?) now. The amount of people that decision by PD has hosed is.... well, a lot. It just doesn't make sense to me.


Might be time for an alt account with a different home base so your timeslots are more reasonable.



I've posted this before so I am not going down that rabbit hole again, but the idea was to have a GTX class for very high DR players who are legit trying to (and able to) qualify. IMO it should be something like the below (keeping in mind that now, 50% A+ = 100k DR; I just pulled these numbers out of the air; I'm sure PD could run analytics to figure out legit cutoff):

GT3 - DR C and below
GT2 - DR A & B
GT1 - A+ to 50%A+
GTX - 51%A+ to S

DR A and a chunk of A+ drivers aren't qualifying for GTWS; there just aren't enough points available in even an all mid-A+ lobby races to do so. So put them in GT1 with all of the time slots available. The high A+ players and S players are the ones really contending, so they can keep the three timeslots as they will make the time to catch at least one of them. The rest of us are casuals and do some races in-between life events.

Anyway, I digress.
This makes a lot of sense.
Elite players need a league apart from the actual GT1 if that is the cause of the just three slots for GT1

Im a low A+ (my DR fluctuates between 57k and 63k since years) and when I get paired in top split with DR players of 100k and S/S world tour finalist the pace difference I see is mental.
We are not talking about tenths here, they are easily 1 second faster per lap than me. It really is another league.

At the end of the day, in that kind of races I gain DR no matter what position I finish :lol: but I prefer to have more slots at disposal if they ask me.
 
This makes a lot of sense.
Elite players need a league apart from the actual GT1 if that is the cause of the just three slots for GT1

Im a low A+ (my DR fluctuates between 57k and 63k since years) and when I get paired in top split with DR players of 100k and S/S world tour finalist the pace difference I see is mental.
We are not talking about tenths here, they are easily 1 second faster per lap than me. It really is another league.

At the end of the day, in that kind of races I gain DR no matter what position I finish :lol: but I prefer to have more slots at disposal if they ask me.
I ended up not doing a race on my main account because the 11pm GT1 slot was the only time I’d be able to play. I was falling asleep by 10:30 last night so no way I was going to attempt it. The 3 slots thing is awful.

I was in a race with S. Cardinal a while back. He was gone from the pack after turn 1. Lol. Their pace is almost unbelievable and hard to understand how they extract it consistently.
 
This makes a lot of sense.
Elite players need a league apart from the actual GT1 if that is the cause of the just three slots for GT1

Im a low A+ (my DR fluctuates between 57k and 63k since years) and when I get paired in top split with DR players of 100k and S/S world tour finalist the pace difference I see is mental.
We are not talking about tenths here, they are easily 1 second faster per lap than me. It really is another league.


At the end of the day, in that kind of races I gain DR no matter what position I finish :lol: but I prefer to have more slots at disposal if they ask me.
it's easy to lose sight of the fact that A+ alone is worth is TWICE as much DR compared to literally one's first race as DR E (aka zero) to A+. It's 50k DR to hit A+; A+ alone is 100k DR (from 50k to 150k).

Of course there are diminishing returns I suppose, but the difference between a high A+ or S and low-to-mid A+ is huge. In I've been in that same boat as you and @CMB350 when paired up with the aforementioned; it's like we're not even playing the same game. :lol: Good thing I don't have an ego or it would've been taken down a few [hundred] pegs.
 
I ended up not doing a race on my main account because the 11pm GT1 slot was the only time I’d be able to play. I was falling asleep by 10:30 last night so no way I was going to attempt it. The 3 slots thing is awful.

I was in a race with S. Cardinal a while back. He was gone from the pack after turn 1. Lol. Their pace is almost unbelievable and hard to understand how they extract it consistently.
Top split pace is absolutely wild when you see it in real time on track. I've had Kylian, Hizal and Gallo in a daily race at Nurb24 and if you didn't know who they were, you'd think they were hacking. It's an otherworldly type of pace.
 
Does anyone know if the track dries naturally if you leave it for an hour or so?
Does anyone even know if in GT7 the real driving lines even impact where it's drying? They marketed it like it was real with the first trailers but if i look at grinding races like Tokyo i alway wonder if the drying line isn't in fact fake as the cars don't exactly drive where the typical line dries up first. You know what i mean. I always tend to "artificial b*s*".
 
Does anyone even know if in GT7 the real driving lines even impact where it's drying? They marketed it like it was real with the first trailers but if i look at grinding races like Tokyo i alway wonder if the drying line isn't in fact fake as the cars don't exactly drive where the typical line dries up first. You know what i mean. I always tend to "artificial b*s*".
It’s all a bit weird when it come to wet, saturating vs drying in the game.

Watching Serrano’s replay he was on lap 35 when he set his time and the entirety of the track looked dry so im wondering about the natural drying.

Not that it really makes a difference as we are all gonna have the same weather in the race to be fair
 
I ran the first set of 20 laps in practice.

It rains heavy for first 3 laps, then rain stops for laps 4 and 5.
Another hit of heavy rainfall is at lap 6 and it eases on lap 9.
From lap 10 onward there's no rain, but the track is wet, it dries over time.

Around lap 15 there's still full moisture tick on the main straight's driving line.
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The line is quite dry by the end of lap 20
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For me maybe last 2-3 laps' track conditions warrant a -consideration- of using softs.
Question is when the wear start to chip into inters and what condition will they be past lap 15 (taking into account the full grid circulating), if there's still enough of them and the race situation is favourable I'd stay to the end with no stopping.

The circuit is turn heavy though, so the wear might be an issue...
 
Does anyone even know if in GT7 the real driving lines even impact where it's drying? They marketed it like it was real with the first trailers but if i look at grinding races like Tokyo i alway wonder if the drying line isn't in fact fake as the cars don't exactly drive where the typical line dries up first. You know what i mean. I always tend to "artificial b*s*".
I believe what you're describing is correct. Like, if you turn on the driving line in game there are a handful of turns across multiple tracks where that line is inaccurate vs how people really take the turn. However, that is the line that dries the quickest regardless of where everyone is actually driving.

I am trying to remember which track, but I think it's Fuji that has a couple of these. You have to really modify your driving line to stay on the dry bits as the normal racing line will put you into the wet.

That I don't really blame PD for that as it [drying of the track] is likely scripted (track will definitely dry quicker with 16 cars on it vs 1, which is cool; that much I know for sure). What I don't like is how a drying track will be a lot dryer for the cars behind than the leading pack. It's been mentioned before, but it's substantial. At least it was. P1 would be near the second rung and P14 would be pitting for slicks, even if only like 20ish seconds behind. I think this has gotten better though.
 
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Does anyone know if the track dries naturally if you leave it for an hour or so?
I've never actually tried this, so I can't talk from experience, but I do seem to remember somebody here mentioning in passing that they were going to try it, or maybe even did.

I'm testing it right now. I just parked my car on the track in Free Practice. I'll let you know in an hour.

UPDATE: Definitely works. I only waited 50-something minutes, but the track was completely dry by then.
 
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I ran the first set of 20 laps in practice.

It rains heavy for first 3 laps, then rain stops for laps 4 and 5.
Another hit of heavy rainfall is at lap 6 and it eases on lap 9.
From lap 10 onward there's no rain, but the track is wet, it dries over time.

Around lap 15 there's still full moisture tick on the main straight's driving line.
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The line is quite dry by the end of lap 20
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For me maybe last 2-3 laps' track conditions warrant a -consideration- of using softs.
Question is when the wear start to chip into inters and what condition will they be past lap 15 (taking into account the full grid circulating), if there's still enough of them and the race situation is favourable I'd stay to the end with no stopping.

The circuit is turn heavy though, so the wear might be an issue...
Once that rain stops on lap 10, I'd be very surprised if there's any moisture on the dry line by lap 15. It's going to dry much faster in race conditions with 16 cars on it than running alone in free practice. I'd hazard a guess at the dry line being completely dry by lap 13, possibly even lap 12.

In the mixed weather X2019 round at Red Bull Ring, the dry line never completely dried running alone by the time the second burst of rain arrived on lap 15. In the actual race, the dry line was fully dry by lap 10. Here's some screenshots for comparison (sorry for the VR blur!)

Start of lap 10 in free practice
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Start of lap 10 in the race
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I think the best thing everyone can do is find out how long they can keep Softs alive and manageable on a completely dry track, then work backwards to figure out whether to extend their Inters/Wets slightly or use Mediums.

EDIT - I've just run 8 laps on a dry track with 5x tyre wear to get an estimate. This is what the Softs looked like on the 2019 Audi with BB+5. I figured the front tyres would be the limiting factor on this track so I tried to protect them.

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If the Audi does that to it's front right, I dread to think what the FR cars will do.

EDIT 2 - Just done the same thing with Mediums.

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The times for the 8 lap stints were separated by just a few tenths in the Softs' favour, so well within margin of error. Assuming it does dry out by the start of lap 13, I guess it comes down to whether you can do 8 laps on Softs and whether you're willing to tolerate having the car feel awful by the end. The Mediums did feel a lot more comfortable overall, just slower at the beginning.
 
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I believe what you're describing is correct. Like, if you turn on the driving line in game there are a handful of turns across multiple tracks where that line is inaccurate vs how people really take the turn. However, that is the line that dries the quickest regardless of where everyone is actually driving.

I am trying to remember which track, but I think it's Fuji that has a couple of these. You have to really modify your driving line to stay on the dry bits as the normal racing line will put you into the wet.
Not that PD will ever use it in the World Series, but the track this stands out the most on is High Speed Ring, where turn 2 and the final corner everyone runs the banking but the driving line is as if it was a regular, no-camber corner.
 
I don't compete seriously but @tmtk motivated me to give it a try again. So I saw your training lap times and was deeply impressed. As you know I am slower and lower rated but among my fast friends you were in front.

My own race went great. High C lobby and although I had door 13 I started as second. Close and fair driving as I like it when faults get punished. Somehow I had problems to save my soft tyres but brought it home! View attachment 1506215
So you can have fun, too, if you are slower as the fast people here. I am out while round 2 and will see whether I will return for another round. Greetings! ❣️
That is great, congratulations!

This is what is so good about racing, it's the same fun and excitement no matter how fast you are. Greetings my friend 🤗
 
It's getting pretty annoying that every tournament is A+ smurf wheel users dominating each league.

It's the same thing every season, people that can't compete inside the top 75 in GT1, just running riot in the GT2/3 leagues.

PD give you 20 different subcategories for reporting types of "mean words" that result in bans against your playstation account because it's 1st party moderated, but absolutely zero ways to report dirty drivers, people that follow you from race to race to sabotage rank/tournaments, or people that are known users smurfing with a wheel in lower leagues.

The A+ smurfing in lower leagues is as irritating to play against as people constantly having backup accounts to switch servers & introduce tonnes of latency, yet miraculously all of the streamers that do it, never get banned.

Its really awesome watching someone do 1:16/7 lap times in a GT3 league at Atlanta...
 
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It's the same thing every season, people that can't compete inside the top 75 in GT1, just running riot in the GT2/3 leagues.
This is just another result of GT1 time slots being so limited. I don't like smurfing either but I can see how some would rather demote than be forced to choose between 3 time slots if not competing for offline qualification.
 
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