Gran Turismo World Series discussion

[FlapJackFlash]

Oh, and I'm not blaming the Cayman for lack of pace ... I suspect that's all my doing.

Yeah, same here - the ballast is definitely me!

 

[VillaJ100]

Cayman is nippy through the tight middle turns as so small but I really wish it had even an extra 20bhp for the uphill onto the straight. I also get jammed at the top of 3rd gear in the chain from corners 6-8 and don't know whether to risk hitting the limiter or change to 4th for like 7 yards

 

[Talon16]

Waiting for @Moose78 to drop the strat for this 12 lap, RH tire, no stop glorified Daily C. Oh wait...

Anyone else looking past this one to a [likely] rainy Red Bull Ring?

 

[Moose78]

Waiting for @Moose78 to drop the strat for this 12 lap, RH tire, no stop glorified Daily C. Oh wait...

Anyone else looking past this one to a [likely] rainy Red Bull Ring?

The strategy for Rd.3: Go fast! Try not to die.

As for Saturday's race, I'm not sure what to expect there. They give us the choice of two slick compounds, but there aren't any required compounds. Usually if there is going to be rain, we only get a single slick compound, and usually if they give us two slick compounds, they make them both required. We won't know until Thursday whether the hidden 'Require tire type change' setting is enabled. But if it is going to be a dry race and they want us to use both slick compounds, why not just make them both required?

I started doing some tire profiling yesterday already. The RSs last me about 20 laps (afternoon, C02 weather). The RMs easily last the whole race (28 laps). I'm wondering if what PD is trying to set up is a choice between a one-stop on softs or a no-stop on mediums.

Or maybe there will be rain, but only starting sometime around lap 18 or 19, so you need to choose between playing it safe on mediums or taking a gamble on softs.

I'm really curious what we'll get.

 

[Talon16]

The strategy for Rd.3: Go fast! Try not to die.

As for Saturday's race, I'm not sure what to expect there. They give us the choice of two slick compounds, but there aren't any required compounds. Usually if there is going to be rain, we only get a single slick compound, and usually if they give us two slick compounds, they make them both required. We won't know until Thursday whether the hidden 'Require tire type change' setting is enabled. But if it is going to be a dry race and they want us to use both slick compounds, why not just make them both required?

I started doing some tire profiling yesterday already. The RSs last me about 20 laps (afternoon, C02 weather). The RMs easily last the whole race (28 laps). I'm wondering if what PD is trying to set up is a choice between a one-stop on softs or a no-stop on mediums.

Or maybe there will be rain, but only starting sometime around lap 18 or 19, so you need to choose between playing it safe on mediums or taking a gamble on softs.

I'm really curious what we'll get.

Yea I did a quick practice half-session just to get an idea. Sunny weather, and doing 14 laps on RS is definitely manageable. I hope you're presumption is off, because if it ends up being RSx14/RSx14 or RMx28 then this race will be much more boring than it could be. I hope it's random weather with rain, and yea, we'll all have to take a guess on whether or not the rain will come before the RS wear out, or go for RMs to go longer but risk the rain coming early. The fact they're not requiring either of the slicks gives me hope.

 

[Hiponiak]

I've done custom race based on Wednesday's round setup.
Pretty smooth +/-20 mins driving, as expected no need to worry about fuel and tires so avoiding penalties will be the key. And other drivers as track is pretty tight. With Sophy AI it was a lot of pushing so with real drivers expect it to be even more... In a race managed to get mid 1:43 while in training I sit on low 1:41. Surprisingly, I have a feeling that AI (hard) breaks bit later then I practiced based on replays of best SLS driver and then with his ghost.
Really refreshing, enjoyable race, I like how the car handles, track I remember from some license tests and attempts to get a gold (it was one of the toughest for me), hope for way better result from last Atlanta which was a real drag.

 

[VillaJ100]

Maybe there will be some variety with either a two stop on softs, one stop on mediums or a none stop on hards with fuel saving?

 

[VTEC Driver]

The strategy for Rd.3: Go fast! Try not to die.

As for Saturday's race, I'm not sure what to expect there. They give us the choice of two slick compounds, but there aren't any required compounds. Usually if there is going to be rain, we only get a single slick compound, and usually if they give us two slick compounds, they make them both required. We won't know until Thursday whether the hidden 'Require tire type change' setting is enabled. But if it is going to be a dry race and they want us to use both slick compounds, why not just make them both required?

I started doing some tire profiling yesterday already. The RSs last me about 20 laps (afternoon, C02 weather). The RMs easily last the whole race (28 laps). I'm wondering if what PD is trying to set up is a choice between a one-stop on softs or a no-stop on mediums.

Or maybe there will be rain, but only starting sometime around lap 18 or 19, so you need to choose between playing it safe on mediums or taking a gamble on softs.

I'm really curious what we'll get.

Maybe the check on the weather radar between qualify and the race will be critical where we will see if some clouds are close (then go for soft for the first 10/12 laps?) or if the clouds are far start with medium waiting for the rain coming late (or even not appearing at all).
With such variety it will be critical to be fast and consistent on lap times giving almost granted that you are capable to do that and just be focused along the race about only the strategy that needs to be really flexible.
Considering that I need to use a lot of brain resources (already limited) on my driving, to have the lucidity about what to do in uncertainty weather conditions will be quite stressful... (always for me)...

 

[Fezzik]

I'm actually glad for the short race on Wednesday. Having a few issues with the hands at the moment, don't think I could manage another hour long race on the pad. May have to turn down all the haptic stuff anyway.

Saturday will be a real struggle with RBR being full throttle so much of the lap. Maybe I can get a wheel before the weekend.

 

[nostradavor2]

I did few laps with Lancer and did 1.41.5 best lap time, I don't think it'll be competitive tbf.. But since my best position so far is 12th, maybe I'll be able to improve that at least.. Sitting on 80 pts after 2 races 😆

 

[Pakiti]

I've done custom race based on Wednesday's round setup.
Pretty smooth +/-20 mins driving, as expected no need to worry about fuel and tires so avoiding penalties will be the key. And other drivers as track is pretty tight. With Sophy AI it was a lot of pushing so with real drivers expect it to be even more... In a race managed to get mid 1:43 while in training I sit on low 1:41. Surprisingly, I have a feeling that AI (hard) breaks bit later then I practiced based on replays of best SLS driver and then with his ghost.
Really refreshing, enjoyable race, I like how the car handles, track I remember from some license tests and attempts to get a gold (it was one of the toughest for me), hope for way better result from last Atlanta which was a real drag.

Your post made me think about playing with the ABS level or brake force distribution.

 

[Norbsthebald]

In other news, have any Nissan runners tried Silvia vs GT-R Gr.4 yet? I'm going to try to compare tomorrow but if anyone else has data that would be good too.

The results are in.. (Upper B Driver)

QUALI
Silvia - 1:42.17
GT-R - 1:41.96

12 LAP RACE
Silvia - 20:49.0
GT-R - 20:43.6

The GT-R is just as nice to drive as the (famously sweet-handling) Silvia in this combo, so the GT-R is my recommendation if you are of the Nissan persuasion.

 

[TBR 427]

For Round 6 (Deep Forest)

Isn't it the exact same as this race, but with 1 extra lap? Both 2F/7T, but 15 laps instead of 14.


BTW, for Round 4 Red Bull Ring, the 1hr race in Driving Missions: Human Tragedy has the same Tire Wear multiplier (x3), but with a much higher fuel use compared to the GTWS event. But, it does have rain and at least one car, typically the AMG, is unnaturally fast. So it probably makes for good practice for the event.

 

[TinleyPork]

Interlagos has no rain in GT7.

That explains why I couldn't figure out how to get it to rain for practice.

Seems like tomorrow will be a bit boring then.

 

[VillaJ100]

I'm actually glad for the short race on Wednesday. Having a few issues with the hands at the moment, don't think I could manage another hour long race on the pad. May have to turn down all the haptic stuff anyway.

Saturday will be a real struggle with RBR being full throttle so much of the lap. Maybe I can get a wheel before the weekend.

I feel your pain, I suffer from PsA and its a helluva thing

 

[Fezzik]

I feel your pain, I suffer from PsA and its a helluva thing

Yes, that’s it. It’s manageable so far but I fear long gaming sessions are going to be a thing of the past.

It might actually spur me to finally switch to a wheel. Less trouble gripping that than a pad.

 

[Wilsonson]

I am able to somewhat consistently get low 41s in my GT-R in free practice. It kind of feels fast compared to the top times with regard to my high B GT 2 lobbies. But I am also kind of worried because qualifying will be super important here.

Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences on this?

 

[FlapJackFlash]

GT2 EMEA 1st slot, mostly A lobby

Qualified 12th (16 on the doors) as couldn't get clear of traffic/put a good lap together - think waiting a bit before coming out of the pits would have been better. Looked like other people had the same issue as most of the cars behind me were much higher on the doors.

Devolved into chaos pretty quickly, especially around the tight corners as everyone was trying to shoulder past each other. A Lambo and a GTR were being especially aggressive and soon started causing crashes with one big one at the last corner allowing me to get by them all.

Me and the sensible drivers then started putting the laps in, though I messed up T1 understeering onto the grass to lose a lot of time and 1 place. Finished 10th for 103 points, not sure I've got the will to try again.

In a bunched up pack you really need to defend in those tight corners otherwise very easy to lose places there.

 

[Wilsonson]

I am able to somewhat consistently get low 41s in my GT-R in free practice. It kind of feels fast compared to the top times with regard to my high B GT 2 lobbies. But I am also kind of worried because qualifying will be super important here.

Does anyone have any thoughts or experiences on this?

To answer my own question:

Just watch a high B racers stream. 4 races. Pole times were usually very low 41s with ob odd 41.6.

I am not sure how much the added fuel decreases pace compared to free practice though.

I will be able to do the last two races tonight and am really looking forward to it. I just love Interlagos.

 

[Hiponiak]

Your post made me think about playing with the ABS level or brake force distribution.

It's a true destruction derby out there, so watch out. I used ABS low and breaks on 0 (AMG). Tried -5 and +5 but in both settings I felt slower or car was acting weird.

Managed to grab 8th place in 2nd EU slot (GT2).

Qualifications went side ways (1st lap I got bumped out of the track, 2nd a bit of slide on first corner), and was 15th at starting line... As there was a lot of yellow flags and collisions managed to crawl my ass to 6th place mid race, and then one guy bumped me in the beginning of a lap. This got me to 12th position and I was on a verge of rage quit. Though managed to get my composure back, also pace from lap to lap seemed to be better and better. Last one was a true horror show. We're going in a herd from 8th to 12th place. Just before penultimate corner guys started to fight for a position and I felt this might be the chance. Managed to sneak in to 10th, then one guy got a bit off a track and bumped one on 8th place. Before last corner I had better position so easily passed him, and behind me there was also a two cars crash on last corner...

And then it was just to ride out to the sunset...

 

[Bondwhar]

Something strange going on.

Then this happens at the end


Somehow I go from 2nd to 3rd!! 😳🤣

 

[MetalApe]

Something strange going on.

Then this happens at the end


Somehow I go from 2nd to 3rd!! 😳🤣

I saw something similar in a daily once. The car that you saw as frozen on the grid must have been driving around normally in his world. When he crossed the line in his world, before you reached the line, he got given 2nd place. In the game I saw it happen the frozen car actually appeared in the race half way through.

Never thought I'd see Father Time abusing his powers over time like this to rig a race result, I'd have thought he had far more important issues to attend to.

 

[Famine]

Something strange going on.

Then this happens at the end

Somehow I go from 2nd to 3rd!! 😳🤣

The frozen car has piss-poor internets. That caused both the grid issue and his subsequent reappearance at the finish. For his part, he'd have experienced an entirely normal race while everyone else would have been frozen.

 

[Bondwhar]

The frozen car has piss-poor internets. That caused both the grid issue and his subsequent reappearance at the finish. For his part, he'd have experienced an entirely normal race while everyone else would have been frozen.

No way to catch a car that isn’t there 🤣
Also how come some cars hit him at the start if he wasn’t there? 😳

 

[ZEE]

The frozen car has piss-poor internets. That caused both the grid issue and his subsequent reappearance at the finish. For his part, he'd have experienced an entirely normal race while everyone else would have been frozen.

I had the same instant when I did a race at Sardegna Reverse a last year back, one Russian guys slow ass internet slugged the whole grid start to a halt then, it took him ages to leave the lobby and clear up the horrible lag caused, making a massive ping pong effect.

 

[VillaJ100]

Just finished my race, slightly nervous as was first race in the series since promoted back to B. I think the daily last week paid off as I qualified second with a 1:43.3, .035 behind pole.

Tried to make the race as uneventful as possible, I lost 2nd off the line but got it back by the end of the first straight, had a gap of about 3 seconds to 3rd by the 4th lap, gap to 1st was varying between 0.8-1.5 secs as we both made small mistakes. It stayed this way till lap 8 when the leader suddenly went in the pits! I couldn't believe it although felt bad for them. Kept on lapping consistent around 1:43.7 laps, keeping it clean and ended up winning by 6.8 seconds with a total time of 20:44.0 for 60 points!

 

[Hdbd04]

I'm not too sure if I could participate this round tonight due to commitments. But if I do, it would probably be the last slot at 11pm. Man, I love the GT1-League timeslots.

(Edit: Just remembered that I would have to wake up before 6am anyways. Although I'll be up for Saturday's race instead)

 

[MIE1992]

Definitely looking forward to today's round featuring Gr.4 at Interlagos - it seems pretty straightforward! I bet the 4WD drivetrain of the G70 Gr.4 will be especially helpful in accelerating out of the venue's many corners.

 

[Benay79]

The strategy for Rd.3: Go fast! Try not to die.

As for Saturday's race, I'm not sure what to expect there. They give us the choice of two slick compounds, but there aren't any required compounds. Usually if there is going to be rain, we only get a single slick compound, and usually if they give us two slick compounds, they make them both required. We won't know until Thursday whether the hidden 'Require tire type change' setting is enabled. But if it is going to be a dry race and they want us to use both slick compounds, why not just make them both required?

I started doing some tire profiling yesterday already. The RSs last me about 20 laps (afternoon, C02 weather). The RMs easily last the whole race (28 laps). I'm wondering if what PD is trying to set up is a choice between a one-stop on softs or a no-stop on mediums.

Or maybe there will be rain, but only starting sometime around lap 18 or 19, so you need to choose between playing it safe on mediums or taking a gamble on softs.

I'm really curious what we'll get.

So for anyone thinking ahead to Saturday already, this is the free practice conditions!

 

[Benay79]

So for anyone thinking ahead to Saturday already, this is the free practice conditions!

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From the replays on leaderboard, the track is totally dry by lap 30. All the top times posted from lap 30 onwards.