Gran Turismo World Series discussion

[Moose78]

I hate to point it out after you've put that effort in, but round 1 is 22 laps, not 20. 😅

I'll update the strategy simulations.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I'll update the strategy simulations.

It won’t make a lot of difference materially as it’s just an extra lap or two on each tire so the relative gap for such a short lap the pattern holds

Edit: combined with traffic and the weight+traffic etc

 

[brockie]

Glad I chose the BMW, the M6 is nice and smooth around RA, going to do some soft and medium runs tomorrow and try figure out a strategy.

Can you even qualify on softs and use medium and hard in the race?

Unless 2 stopping is a thing

Edit. @Moose78 should have read your post before posting 😂 that’s a big help, thanks

 

[KAlex122]

I also did some testing. Seems the Jag sucks at Road Atlanta. Analytics show that it must be the water, ... i mean the driver.

 

[Zorz]

Can you even qualify on softs and use medium and hard in the race?

Since you're new to GTWS, here's a quick rundown of what to expect.

You can change tyres during and after qualifying.

If you hit start and quit out from driving during qualifying, it'll put your car back into the pit lane and return you to the lobby where you can adjust your car settings from the menu.

When qualifying completes, it will send everyone back to the lobby with a 60 second countdown before the pre-race procedure automatically begins. That's your opportunity to go into the car settings and change your starting tyres if desired (and in the case of races with wet weather, check the recent radar to get an idea what the race start will look like).

 

[Famine]

Can you even qualify on softs and use medium and hard in the race?

As with the Daily Races, you can only use the tyres available to you. GTWS26 Manufacturers R1 allows (and also requires) Soft and Medium tyres; Hards are not available.

You can use whatever you like, wherever you like within the regulations. That means yes, you can qualify on Softs if they're available - as they are for this round. You are required to use Softs and Mediums in this race, and you can use them whichever way round you wish, just like a Daily Race C. If you qualify on Softs and want to start on Mediums, you'll need to switch after the Qualifying session and before the Race in the short interval.

As RA is a short lap, you could even select Mediums for Qualifying, do an out-lap/in-lap to switch to Softs, then an out-lap and a flying lap - though it's a bit risky and puts everything onto that one lap. You won't have to remember to switch back to Mediums though, as they'll still be fitted.

 

[newmedia_dev]

As RA is a short lap, you could even select Mediums for Qualifying, do an out-lap/in-lap to switch to Softs, then an out-lap and a flying lap - though it's a bit risky and puts everything onto that one lap. You won't have to remember to switch back to Mediums though, as they'll still be fitted

As always @Famine is the font of knowledge here, but in terms of full lap time (not that it matters as you either have it or you don’t in race QT) if you want a quick time softs, medium pace lap, with a heavy brake in the the last chicane and then full attack, doing it lap one is harder as the temps don’t peak early when you need them warm at the start of the downhill Esses

 

[brockie]

Since you're new to GTWS, here's a quick rundown of what to expect.

You can change tyres during and after qualifying.

If you hit start and quit out from driving during qualifying, it'll put your car back into the pit lane and return you to the lobby where you can adjust your car settings from the menu.

When qualifying completes, it will send everyone back to the lobby with a 60 second countdown before the pre-race procedure automatically begins. That's your opportunity to go into the car settings and change your starting tyres if desired (and in the case of races with wet weather, check the recent radar to get an idea what the race start will look like).

As with the Daily Races, you can only use the tyres available to you. GTWS26 Manufacturers R1 allows (and also requires) Soft and Medium tyres; Hards are not available.

You can use whatever you like, wherever you like within the regulations. That means yes, you can qualify on Softs if they're available - as they are for this round. You are required to use Softs and Mediums in this race, and you can use them whichever way round you wish, just like a Daily Race C. If you qualify on Softs and want to start on Mediums, you'll need to switch after the Qualifying session and before the Race in the short interval.

As RA is a short lap, you could even select Mediums for Qualifying, do an out-lap/in-lap to switch to Softs, then an out-lap and a flying lap - though it's a bit risky and puts everything onto that one lap. You won't have to remember to switch back to Mediums though, as they'll still be fitted.

Thanks for the help, it’s appreciated. I’m going to ‘daily’ practice for this one and hopefully by race day I’ll be ready to go.

Maybe I’ll get into GT1, one day

 

[BGreenFace]

Did a test race with an other driver and I found that with the soft have decent pace for around 9 lap. The RM on the other end seems durable for probably around 15 laps (only did 13 since that was the race distance) and somewhat decent in speed for me (my laps were consistent: high 1.20s and low 1.21s). The fuel load that could also come into play here so I’m thinking the inverted Strat might a good option for me (13/9 or 14/8).

Here is my design for this season and the special livery I will be using for the N24 race

Spec N:

Edit: just wanna thanks all the decal creators. I couldn’t do it without you guys so special thanks.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Will be interesting to see how this seasons pans out because Porsche isn’t particularly suited to RA, the T4 turn in and the most people taking first for the long straight turn in is a trade off of carried speed vs exit. It’s a safe choice.

 

[dazdilly75]

The Z4 is a dark horse. I think it gets overshadowed my the M6s but it's very stable, has good acceleration out of tight turns, and is decent on the straights. Track dependent of course but don't look past it for sure.

In the tuning round at Deep Forest, last exhibition season, it was the goto car for that particular round. There is lots of potential in that car which is locked away by the BOP.

 

[VTEC Driver]

I've done some strategy testing for this first round at Road Atlanta in the Aston Martin V12 Vantage and Renault R.S.01. This is how things are looking for me...

I did two 14-lap stints on each tire compound in each car. As usual, to smooth out the data, I constructed an 'optimal' race from the faster of each lap.

Summary:

Manufacturer	Model	Tire compound	Laps	Opt time	Best time	Avg time	Total time
Renault	R.S.01 GT3 '16	RS	14​	1:19.416​	1:19.477​	1:20.602​	18:48.429​
Renault	R.S.01 GT3 '16	RM	14​	1:20.081​	1:20.450​	1:21.015​	18:54.209​
Aston Martin	V12 Vantage GT3 '12	RS	14​	1:19.454​	1:19.574​	1:20.727​	18:50.180​
Aston Martin	V12 Vantage GT3 '12	RM	14​	1:19.952​	1:20.192​	1:20.838​	18:51.735​

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Tire tread levels at finish:

Manufacturer	Model	Tire compound	Laps	Front left	Front right	Rear left	Rear right
Renault	R.S.01 GT3 '16	RS	14​	10%​	15%​	45%​	35%​
Renault	R.S.01 GT3 '16	RM	14​	60%​	75%​	55%​	70%​
Aston Martin	V12 Vantage GT3 '12	RS	14​	0%​	40%​	30%​	55%​
Aston Martin	V12 Vantage GT3 '12	RM	14​	55%​	75%​	70%​	80%​

Using these 'optimal' races, I'm able to simulate all of the one-stop strategies from 8RS-14RM to 14RS-8RM. These were the three fastest for each car:

Manufacturer	Model	Strategy	Total time
Aston Martin	V12 Vantage GT3 '12	9RS-13RM	29:33.877​
Aston Martin	V12 Vantage GT3 '12	8RS-14RM	29:34.157​
Aston Martin	V12 Vantage GT3 '12	10RS-12RM	29:34.528​
Renault	R.S.01 GT3 '16	12RS-10RM	29:35.930​
Renault	R.S.01 GT3 '16	11RS-11RM	29:36.171​
Renault	R.S.01 GT3 '16	10RS-12RM	29:36.238​

Note: This simulation approach makes no distinction between the order of the stints. For example, 10RS-12RM gives the same time as 12RM-10RS because it is just the sum of the lap times either way. In an actual race, the second stint would be faster because of the reduced fuel weight.

Some comments and observations...

The Vantage is better here than I was expecting. I expected it to be way behind the R.S.01, but it keeps up. Not only that, it has a better overall race time than the R.S.01. I find that surprising. Granted, that gap might narrow with more testing. For example, I could probably improve on laps 4 and 5 in the R.S.01 on the RS tires.

The difference between the top strategies is pretty small. It looks like anything between 9 and 12 laps on the RS tires is viable, so it seems like there will be a fair bit of wiggle room in deciding when to pit in the actual race.

EDIT #1: I meant to mention that I also tested the DBR9, but it wasn't competitive here, so I left it out of the tables and charts. If you are interested, you can find the results in the raw data here.

EDIT #2: Updated the strategy simulation table and related comments using the correct number of laps.

Did you have selected these 2 cars considering the characteristics of the tracks or because you want just to drive one of them?

Last time I have used the Renault and I liked even if I haven't reached great result.
But from a couple of weeks I have a new wheel (great improvement moving from belt to DD) and a new cockpit.

So while I am struggling in finding the new position in the cokpit, I am still wondering if use again the Renault o look at something different...

 

[Moose78]

Did you have selected these 2 cars considering the characteristics of the tracks or because you want just to drive one of them?

I'm driving for Renault in my main account and Aston Martin in my alt one. I picked those manufacturers using the same criteria I have used for the last few seasons: of the manufacturers I haven't used yet, they were the least popular in Canada in the GT2 league last season.

I'm on a long-term quest to use all the manufacturers. I figure if I start with the least popular ones, I can get the worst ones out of the way first and my seasons will gradually get better as time goes on.

All that is to say that my choice of Renault was a matter of chance, not careful consideration. I have no reason to believe Renault is better (or worse) than any other manufacturer this season. We'll see how it goes.

 

[Uday9479]

I'm taking part in this wonderful event for the first time. I went through most manufacturers to see which Gr.4 & Gr.3 cars are available. After much deliberation across both classes, I opted for Audi. I'm most comfortable with TT Cup in Gr.4 & as of now am hooked to the R8 Evo in Daily C as it suits my driving style.

 

[dazdilly75]

I'm taking part in this wonderful event for the first time. I went through most manufacturers to see which Gr.4 & Gr.3 cars are available. After much deliberation across both classes, I opted for Audi. I'm most comfortable with TT Cup in Gr.4 & as of now am hooked to the R8 Evo in Daily C as it suits my driving style.

There aren't any GR4 races unfortunately. We had access to those races in the last exhibition season, but PD have removed them for the official season. The only Audis you'll be allowed to drive, are the GR3 version R8's.

 

[Uday9479]

There aren't any GR4 races unfortunately. We had access to those races in the last exhibition season, but PD have removed them for the official season. The only Audis you'll be allowed to drive, are the GR3 version R8's.

Yeah Mate....I realised that later as I'm new to the Manu races & there's so much info relating to this in this thread & official website. It's been only since mid June that I've started racing online & now the only thing I do is race in daily races. 6 months in & have taken part in 970 online daily races only. This will be my first experience in this competition.

Apart from Audi, was confused between Peugeot, Porsche & AMG. I love the R8 which has propelled me to DR A ranking. Because of this, I'll be allotted GT1 League A which will test me to the absolute limit.

 

[FlapJackFlash]

Have the GT1 boundaries changed? My SR just dropped to B so I quickly chose Porsche without checking the group I was selecting and I'm in GT1 now? Now means I'll probably miss a few rounds due to timing which is annoying, and I definitely don't have GT1 pace so this season is going to be damp squib for me.

 

[Blade_Rudder]

Have the GT1 boundaries changed? My SR just dropped to B so I quickly chose Porsche without checking the group I was selecting and I'm in GT1 now? Now means I'll probably miss a few rounds due to timing which is annoying, and I definitely don't have GT1 pace so this season is going to be damp squib for me.

League allocation is based on DR

 

[Uday9479]

League allocation is based on DR

I always keep moving about the realms of a high DR B to low DR A's. As of now I'm in the low A which is why I was allotted GT1 A league. If my DR falls to upper B by Wednesday because of daily races, will I be allocated to GT2 B league then or still be in A?

I'm alright with either league as participating & competing fairly is my goal.

 

[Zorz]

I always keep moving about the realms of a high DR B to low DR A's. As of now I'm in the low A which is why I was allotted GT1 A league. If my DR falls to upper B by Wednesday because of daily races, will I be allocated to GT2 B league then or still be in A?

I'm alright with either league as participating & competing fairly is my goal.

Now that you've registered into GT1, you'll stay in it until the end of this Manufacturers season no matter what happens to your DR.

 

[Blade_Rudder]

I always keep moving about the realms of a high DR B to low DR A's. As of now I'm in the low A which is why I was allotted GT1 A league. If my DR falls to upper B by Wednesday because of daily races, will I be allocated to GT2 B league then or still be in A?

I'm alright with either league as participating & competing fairly is my goal.

It doesn’t change after the initial allocation. You will be in GT1 for the duration of this Manufactures cup qualifier.

 

[Uday9479]

Now that you've registered into GT1, you'll stay in it until the end of this Manufacturers season no matter what happens to your DR.

It doesn’t change after the initial allocation. You will be in GT1 for the duration of this Manufactures cup qualifier.

Thank You to both for a quick response. I'm wondering if choosing Audi as my Manufacturer choice was good or not. I love the Peugeot RCZ as well which I feel would be as good of a choice to the Audi R8.

 

[Blade_Rudder]

Thank You to both for a quick response. I'm wondering if choosing Audi as my Manufacturer choice was good or not. I love the Peugeot RCZ as well which I feel would be as good of a choice to the Audi R8.

If you had an alt account you could run the RCZ in that and see. I doubt there’s time to get a new account up to DR A before Wednesday, but could be something to consider for next time maybe…

 

[Famine]

As of now I'm in the low A which is why I was allotted GT1 A league. If my DR falls to upper B by Wednesday because of daily races, will I be allocated to GT2 B league then or still be in A?

[Alex Horne] All the information's in the article. [/Alex Horne]

In both championships you’ll be assigned into a “League” appropriate to your Driver Rating (DR), and you’ll remain there no matter how your DR changes during the season.

 

[dazdilly75]

Yeah Mate....I realised that later as I'm new to the Manu races & there's so much info relating to this in this thread & official website. It's been only since mid June that I've started racing online & now the only thing I do is race in daily races. 6 months in & have taken part in 970 online daily races only. This will be my first experience in this competition.

Apart from Audi, was confused between Peugeot, Porsche & AMG. I love the R8 which has propelled me to DR A ranking. Because of this, I'll be allotted GT1 League A which will test me to the absolute limit.

That's great bro! Daily races are a great place to learn racecraft and strategy in a competitive environment. The great thing about the online championships, is that you'll face drivers who are at your level, but the mentality is more serious than daily races because the races are longer. Sprint formats tend to breed erratic driving. I'm the opposite from you, I avoid daily races and race mostly in the online championships, which is why I wish PD gave us more of them. I've been doing these since GT Sport, and it's my favourite aspect about the online portion of the game.
The guys in this group @Moose in particular are great sources of information regarding strategy for each round. The post race reports are also a great read, to see how everyone did in their particular split!

Good luck in your campaign!

 

[A_Higher_Place]

What's the crowd thinking for tyres? I've run a couple practice races and am finding that softs after 50% wear are poopoo.

 

[dazdilly75]

What's the crowd thinking for tyres? I've run a couple practice races and am finding that softs after 50% wear are poopoo.

Mediums for 14 laps then change to softs seems to be a decent strat but it depends on what you're driving? MR ccars are much kinder to their tyres on this track. Last season, doing a 1 stop was a real struggle for the FR cars but that was with 8 laps more and X4 tyre wear!

 

[newmedia_dev]

Have the GT1 boundaries changed? My SR just dropped to B so I quickly chose Porsche without checking the group I was selecting and I'm in GT1 now? Now means I'll probably miss a few rounds due to timing which is annoying, and I definitely don't have GT1 pace so this season is going to be damp squib for me.

Yes they have, the pens for SR are increased and like you I have to go through that curve to get back to S

The flip side is the races this week are very much designed to cut the wheat from the chaff.

Famine nailed it with his summary about what these are and who they are for.

Where it gets a bit meh for me is I want the race experience, I have no need for credits

 

[FlapJackFlash]

League allocation is based on DR

Sorry, yes, I meant DR - am DR B but got signed up for GT1

 

[Blade_Rudder]

Sorry, yes, I meant DR - am DR B but got signed up for GT1

The graphic in the article suggests GT1 is still DR A only.

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