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If I'm assuming right so the dynamic weather will be at random & some will experience rain while some won't?
Yep. If it is like last season, every race will be unique.
It's not like this where those who experience rain in their race will earn more points on average than those who didn't experience any?
No. Points are determined solely by the DR levels of the drivers in the lobby. Weather is not a factor in the points calculation.
Will the wind direction & speed will same for everyone still?
It will be the same for everybody in a particular race, but they will likely vary from one race to another.
Am I right that the weather from the free practice when joining an actual race is like the weather in the race itself? Because the 15 minutes then would be enough to see what's coming...
I'd expect the weather in the free practice session after you've entered the event and are waiting for the time to count down would also be random and not predict what you'll get in the race that follows. The weather for your race will be generated only after the lobby has been formed. I'd recommend checking the weather radar after qualifying is done to see what's coming.
 
Second race: I qualified p1! 2:29.3 in gt2. Wind came from south both qualies btw.

Rain came at start of lap 6, but only slightly (really light blue, but not as light as my last race i guess? Hard to tell imo). Bar started creeping up during the lap, i pitted after lap 6. P2 and p3 stayed for another but that was too much. Both spun out -DNFs. I got hit in the last chicane by someone from back of field still on mediums. Was in p4 after that, overtook one but got overtaken by another for a p4 finish! My little spin from the hit probably didnt cost me more than one place i think, the guys in front were faster than me in the rain.

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Dont pit too late guys! (Says the guy who pitted too early last race XD)
Oh and the rain stayed at the top of inters area before the track started to form a drier line around lap 14, but still inter-territory.
 
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I'd expect the weather in the free practice session after you've entered the event and are waiting for the time to count down would also be random and not predict what you'll get in the race that follows. The weather for your race will be generated only after the lobby has been formed. I'd recommend checking the weather radar after qualifying is done to see what's coming.
Alright thank you for the advise and good luck to all
 
I won the race and only got 72 points lol, the lobby was very weak, it was dry in the first half of the race and it started raining very lightly, guy who I was battling with made the mistake to put the inters
 
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Second race: I qualified p1! 2:29.3 in gt2. Wind came from south both qualies btw.

Rain came at start of lap 6, but only slightly (really light blue, but not as light as my last race i guess? Hard to tell imo). Bar started creeping up during the lap, i pitted after lap 6. P2 and p3 stayed for another but that was too much. Both spun out -DNFs. I got hit in the last chicane by someone from back of field still on mediums. Was in p4 after that, overtook one but got overtaken by another for a p4 finish! My little spin from the hit probably didnt cost me more than one place i think, the guys in front were faster than me in the rain.

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Dont pit too late guys! (Says the guy who pitted too early last race XD)
Oh and the rain stayed at the top of inters area before the track started to form a drier line around lap 14, but still inter-territory.
You said the most crucial thing - don't pit too late!

In my loby race, when I pitted at the end of lap 9 (because the giant rain cloud was about to hit the track) because I didn't want to risk running another lap (7kms approx) if it rained in between. I'd lose heaps of time if on Rm in rain. Better to pit early & be safe.

Also would could prove to be a lottery - is that You're in S3 just when the rain is about to start. So You could pit at the right moment. It would be a giant of a lottery still if the race leader(s) carried on thinking one more lap & the entire strategy gamble would fall in Your hands.

So the biggest factor that should be in Your favour is You're in S3 when the clouds are just about to cover the track & that You're not in S1.
 
Did two slots in the GT1 A slots,

Race 1 - Dry until lap 6 where I pitted in, crashed a bit but made a small recovery in the mid pack. The rain was a mix of not being too heavy, so the IMs where fit enough as a dry line had been established in the last stages of the race.

Race 2 - Qualified P4 and was on track to P2, when rain finally came in Lap 7. It was a long block where rain was constant, so a dry line was not established. However, as the rain initially appeared, it was enough for two laps until the pit-in lap was becoming too twitchy. Then in a decision where I will knock myself tonight, I swapped for IMs, when I should have gone for full wets. Limped to P11 in the end as the dry line was not visible enough.

Gonna do the last slot in a bit. Might do the actual 'writing' of my 3 slots later on. But if the first sentence for that is a negative remark about my avoidable choice of manufacture, then you'll know that my third slot didn't go so well either

TL;DR Weather patterns is different for each slot.
 
Did two slots in the GT1 A slots,

Race 1 - Dry until lap 6 where I pitted in, crashed a bit but made a small recovery in the mid pack. The rain was a mix of not being too heavy, so the IMs where fit enough as a dry line had been established in the last stages of the race.

Race 2 - Qualified P4 and was on track to P2, when rain finally came in Lap 7. It was a long block where rain was constant, so a dry line was not established. However, as the rain initially appeared, it was enough for two laps until the pit-in lap was becoming too twitchy. Then in a decision where I will knock myself tonight, I swapped for IMs, when I should have gone for full wets. Limped to P11 in the end as the dry line was not visible enough.

Gonna do the last slot in a bit. Might do the actual 'writing' of my 3 slots later on. But if the first sentence for that is a negative remark about my avoidable choice of manufacture, then you'll know that my third slot didn't go so well either

TL;DR Weather patterns is different for each slot.
The million dollar question will always be - switch to IM or W? W will be very god from lap 7 to about 14/15 when the track will be at its wettest. After that the rain eases/stops and the IM tyres could be good.

I saw a livestream of a driver who is DR C. The top few drivers when they pitted opted for IMs as the weather wasn't too torrential. W tyres is safer but slower towards the end of the race's 4 laps or so whereas IM's are risky when the rain starts but very quick & grippy towards the last few laps.
 
The million dollar question will always be - switch to IM or W? W will be very god from lap 7 to about 14/15 when the track will be at its wettest. After that the rain eases/stops and the IM tyres could be good.

I saw a livestream of a driver who is DR C. The top few drivers when they pitted opted for IMs as the weather wasn't too torrential. W tyres is safer but slower towards the end of the race's 4 laps or so whereas IM's are risky when the rain starts but very quick & grippy towards the last few laps.
I am not really fast, so Wet is preferable because it is a safer choice... and the seconds that I could loose at the last 4 - 5 laps will not make any difference to me... :D
 
Just keep in mind that as the track dries and the Wets wear out, they lose a lot of grip. They can become just as unsafe as the IMs in heavy rain.
The main thing to do in this scenario is avoid the drying racing line. When I raced in a lobby race, my last 3 laps were spent going on either side of the track which was wetter in trying to keep the W tyres from overheating & wearing out.

I think the top rated players would opt for IMs as the ending stages of the race will suit IM tyres more.
 
I think the top rated players would opt for IMs as the ending stages of the race will suit IM tyres more.
After scanning over streams from Asia, I don't think that's necessarily true. Some stayed very wet to the end (ie. at the second bar with puddles that push above it) because of the weather pattern generated.

I think it's got to be a judgement call based on what you see. Anything up to a small patch of dark blue that either reduces or stops entirely afterwards would lean towards Inters. If there's a big dark blue patch that's going to hang around, Wets might be better even in higher rated lobbies.
 
Is there any potential in starting on IM and no pit? I only ask as I did this on CdlS a while ago and while the rains didn't come till midway through lap 3, and the IM's were half fried, they were enough to win by miles
 
After scanning over streams from Asia, I don't think that's necessarily true. Some stayed very wet to the end (ie. at the second bar with puddles that push above it) because of the weather pattern generated.

I think it's got to be a judgement call based on what you see. Anything up to a small patch of dark blue that either reduces or stops entirely afterwards would lean towards Inters. If there's a big dark blue patch that's going to hang around, Wets might be better even in higher rated lobbies.
I would agree with that.

My EMEA/C race earlier had a large dark blue patch, followed by lighter blues, but the rain never fully stopped. Two full bars with the indicator often above that, puddles formed in the corners etc.

Some drivers boxed for W, the rest of us went for IM. IIRC by the chequered flag, the entire top 5 was on full wets.

I ended up dropping from 3rd to 7th as I wasn't good enough to keep pace with the full wets on the inters. If I see another weather pattern like that later on, i'm going full wets to the end.
 
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After scanning over streams from Asia, I don't think that's necessarily true. Some stayed very wet to the end (ie. at the second bar with puddles that push above it) because of the weather pattern generated.

I think it's got to be a judgement call based on what you see. Anything up to a small patch of dark blue that either reduces or stops entirely afterwards would lean towards Inters. If there's a big dark blue patch that's going to hang around, Wets might be better even in higher rated lobbies.
Mate what's the best clue if the weather is good for IM's or bad enough for W's? As in, on the radar what colour/visual cues would give the best hint for the oncoming weather.....?
 
TL;DR Weather patterns is different for each slot.
PD suddenly remembered they can do variety, before forgetting it complete for the Final Round at Watkins Glen

Slot 2:
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Slot 3:
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To keep it short, Slot 2 had rain arrived at Lap 5, before making it vital to pit in Lap 7. Slot 3 was dry for 9 laps before it became slippery at the end of the lap.
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Started in 9th for the last slot with a 2:20.631 lap time, due to some hicups in qualifying. The right image was that dreadful second slot, where I had started 4th with a 2:19.549 lap time.
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From the radar, the grace period of the lightest blue on the radar lasted for two laps before the surface multiplied its wetness like freaking rabbits all of a sudden. Inters were the way to go this time.
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I made good use of the dryness of the track by getting up to the top three when the rain set in and I was wise enough to slowdown in the final straight before the bustop. Unfortunately, this cat drinks so much fuel, I was the 2nd lowest on fuel when the pits revealed it.
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So P5 gave me 182 points from a maximum of 219 from the lobby. 2nd highest points scored so far and a better way to get in the mood to sleep. I'll maybe upload some more pictures/videos later on without dragging this page any longer.
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(Even with the Formula E-inspired livery I put on, that other cat is still in the works. I haven't got the right pose for it...)
 
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First US slot, GT2, high B/S lobby (with one A/A driver relegated for redemption), 138 points for the win, door 5

Qualified 3rd with average 19.9 lap and was genuinely surprised the Q pace was so low (pole was 19.7), expected at least high 18s or low 19s. Weather forecast after the grid was formed showed only a small patch of light green area coming around a middle of the race. I was sure it meant mediums all the way.

Started without incidents, the pole sitter slowly drove away as the laps went by, while we did some place swapping with white Porsche. Finally it settled as we started and I was driving 3rd with few seconds of space behind.
Then, on lap 7 I seem to have found a new way over the Les Combes chicane:

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Caution: do not attack the bollards on the entry too aggressively!

That made me loose two or three seconds (thankfully no penalty), the Porsche drove away and the redemption DR A driver in Ferrari appeared behind in the eye contact distance. They made some mistakes, but eventually had much better pace than me. We pitted on lap 10 (the drops of rain came and went away, impacting nothing). They were catching me systematically and in the one instance that I got half a second penalty for Eau Rouge turbulence, I had to concede.

In the meantime it appeared that the white Porsche stayed out very late, until lap 12 or 13 and this allowed me to overtake them on the pit exit. They tried to fight but with still cold tires all they got was 1 second penalty after cutting Eau Rouge too much. So I'm again driving 3rd.

So the order of the race was basically settled, the white Porsche behind was still trying to catch and they had the chance with fresher tires, but I guess too many mistakes were made and they were yo-yo'ing +/-1.5 seconds, the gap stayed in the 2-3 seconds bracket. Last lap I was struggling a bit with the tires, but it was enough over the line.

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With practically no rain (and fewer chances of other making mistakes) I expected to struggle here more, so I can't complain on a podium place. I'll take those 127 points and run!
 
Just a quick tip, if you come in for tyres after lap 5, which seems to be when the rain arrives, don't forget to top up the fuel. Unless you were the leader in my 5pm race, in which case thank you very much for forgetting 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Also, if it's already getting wet at the end of lap 5, maybe that is a good time to pit. Unless you were one of the top 8 who didn't in my 5pm race, in which case thank you very much for waiting another lap 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

And we had a grandstand fight for the win into the chicane on the final lap.

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Well this race would not be any better!

GT3 - EMEA Region - 5PM slot - High C lobby - F296 GT3 - Door no.12 - Qualy, Started 12th - Finished 3rd (podium)!


I knew I would enjoy this race as Spa is my fave track amongst many others, and it did deliver despite some small apprehensions after qualifying on weather and pace.

Overall my Qualifying was not great becuase I got a penalty on the second lap of going round Spa, which didnt help my start as well as the short qualifying time, but it probably did work out better that I wasn't at the front for the start of the main race! So 12th is was and it here we go.

Race started off good was chasing a blue beetle up untl lap 2 and then started pushing agrresively to push up the field. I kept going strong and saw the weather moving up and down on the radar, but had not rain so far which was a lucky plus point! Angled to get up to 8th or 7th position with a Porsche guy spinning out on turns 5 & 6 around Spa. I captilised on it and went on to around lap 11 trying to hold the RM tyres to there best lifespan. Others had already pitted on lap 10, so I jumped up to pole positon on my run, but then came in on lap 11 and lost only a few spaces, pushed back out after refuel and tyre swap, to come out in 8th place, then started chasing again.

Later down a few laps on lap 13-14 a big crash happened and the uppers cars were either getting slower or I was getting faster, my laptimes were improving and i was trying my best to stay consistent wih the Ferrari lap after lap. Managed to do some good passes on the 4th and 3rd place car to push up to 3rd on the penutlimate lap, then a NSX tried to chase me on the final lap but got a 1secof En rouge and that penalty that left him behind and I then finished up strong to cross the line. Was very fortunate to have little or no rain the whole race. Even the pit crews were jumping for joys!!!

A very good race overall, watch out for my video later tomo and lets go for better in the Last Round (6)!!
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The rain gods were smiling on me today...

Team Renault - R.S.01 GT3 '16 - GT2 - Americas - 11AM EST - Points available 129 - Door #8 - Q13 (2:21.384)
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Not the best qualifying, but I wasn't too concerned when I saw that we'd be getting rain. A nice blue stripe across the radar.

During the dry laps, I just tried to hold my position, which I managed to do. I might even have managed to pick one up from somebody who got punted off somewhere. I don't remember now.

Most everybody pitted for IMs on lap 5, myself included.

I picked up a bunch of positions to P8 on lap 6 from drivers crashing.

Over the next 10 laps, while the rain was heavy, I managed to work my way through the field to P3. Almost everybody was driving on the slippery racing line, which made them easy pickings for overtaking.

As the rain left the track and started drying out, I lost my advantage. I was able to keep up with the two cars ahead, but was never able to mount a serious challenge.

P3 for 118 points, my best haul of the season. Also a 4.0% boost to my DR B progress, bringing it to 83.3%. Can't complain about that, especially considering that I'd starting P13.


Team Aston Martin - V12 Vantage GT3 '12 - GT2 - Americas - 1PM EST - Points available 109 - Door #8 - Q13 (2:22.623)
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The Vantage is terrible at this track. I qualified right around where I expected: near the back.

Thankfully the radar was showing we'd get rain. In the main menu, it looks like a big blob of dark blue would be hitting the track and lasting the duration of the race. I figured Ws would be the way to go. Once we got on the track and I checked the in-car radar, though, the blob had shrunk considerably and it looked like the heavy rain would only last part of the race and it would only be light blue rain at the end. I changed my mind and decided to go with IMs instead.

I suffered through the dry stint as best I could. I went into the pits in P14 on lap 5 for IMs. I came out in P16. By the end of lap 6, I was up to P6 from all the crashed cars and penalties.

Getting ahead in this car was a challenge compared to the Renault, but I did manage to pick up on more to P5.

After that, I spent most of the rest of the race chasing a McLaren, challenging occasionally, but mostly getting track limit penalties whenever I got close and having to catch up again.

The track stayed wetter than I expected, which helped, but I still wasn't able to find an opportunity to get by the McLaren.

It came on the final lap. The McLaren got a track limit penalty at Eau Rouge and let me by on the straight, letting me cross the line in P4 for 95 points and a 3.5% boost to my DR B progress, bring it to 64.7%.

The winner was on W tires, the only driver to choose them. They finished more than 20 seconds ahead of anybody else. It seems I shouldn't have second-guessed myself.

Oh, well. I can't complain. It's been a fun day of racing. I couldn't have asked for better weather in my races.
 
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EMEA GT2 - 18:00 Q13 P12

From qualify (my worse till now) I understood that it was not the right day.

The dry part went quite well because I was capable to climb till P9 and on Lap 5 I pit for Wet.
The decision was taken because the radar was showing a big area of torquise and I know that here the rain, even if is light, tends to cumulate...
...but a series of mistakes were made...

1. It would be better to change tires at lap 6 or 7 because the gauge reached the second bar around lap 8-9, changing at lap 5 ment to start destroying the tires too early
2. I completely skipped fuel because I was convinced to be capable to reach the end (don't ask why...)
3. On wet tires I never found the right rythm, lapping only at 2:43 on average and, to complete all that I was even capable to go out a couple of times (don't ask why)
4. At a certain point I recognized that the fuel would not be enough to reach the end and I moved the flow from 1 to 4... so now I am even slower... if possible...

Despite of all above I gained 1 position from the horrible qualify... and so this is the worse race to discard from the total point calculation...

They call all of that "experience"... I just see something "different"...
 
That race was NOT good, in the rain I imagine it would be a blast, as all wet races are but in the dry it is awful. 20 laps of following the car ahead trying not to burn too much fuel or use up too much of the tyres, to me that seems like something you would see in F1 not racing. It isn't helped by the crippling understeer even on fresh tyres, especially at Pouhon and Stavelot although that might be down to the steering restrictions on pad because they're long fast corners.

2nd place in the end for 285 points with a bit of an iffy last lap pass, I did lift to not gain too much time, on the next straight he went for the bump draft instead of an overtake so I guess he's okay with it?

 
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Massive waste of time for me today. I did all 3 slots and they all went badly, with the last one being worst of all. In slots 1 and 2, I can only blame myself. In slot 3, it seems fate just wanted to stick the boot in.

Slot 1
Slot 1 had me qualify P10 and really struggle off the rolling start. That has to be the worst possible position to start in, having control handed over in an awful place on that 90 degree left hander. P11 was all over me like a rash and past me up the Kemmel Straight.

I then discovered someone up ahead had started on Inters as we caught him halfway around the lap after closing the gap caused by the rolling start. That was a nightmare trying to get past and it bunched everyone up.

I got greedy during the dry-wet transition, thinking there might be another lap in there as it hovered just under the first bar with the lightest colour rain over the track. There's a load of cars ahead of me, that'll just about counter the rain... right?

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Sector 1 and sector 2 were fine. Start of sector 3, it suddenly started spiking up to well over the first bar. Ended up crawling along towards Blanchimont under yellow flags trying not to pass the car in front being perpetually near-sideways until he eventually binned it. I couldn't get the car stopped for the Bus Stop and slid past someone taking avoiding action whilst still under yellows for a 3 second penalty. PD, why is that a thing?! There's nobody to get hurt! :rolleyes:

I spun it trying to get into the pit lane, then had to cross the line doing it. Nice combined 6s penalty to serve on the following lap.

Somehow ended up P9 at the end after spending the rest of the race in very wet conditions.


Slot 2
Qualifying went much better and I started P6. Except I killed myself on lap 2 at Les Combes. I got too much kerb, unsettled the car and then exited stage left trying to save it. Down to P14.

I got the dry-wet transition right this time, but ended up spinning it twice during the wet phase which lasted to the end. Again, somehow finished P9.


Slot 3
Third time has to be the charm, right? Well, not if you qualify P10 again and there's no rain on the radar. I just got absolutely screwed off the start. My start was better, but I was still immediately cut adrift from the train and this race was completely dry.

I was briefly running P9 for a while after taking my pit stop, but the Audi's back end got unsettled over Raidillon and I ended up smashing the wall trying to catch it. And then just to add insult to injury, then my VR headset decided it wanted to join the fun and threw in a tracking failure around lap 15 through Pouhon. There had been a Ford steadily gaining on me for a while but I might have been able to just about keep him away long enough. The tracking failure brought my car to a crawl whilst it went on auto-drive until the headset recovered, so he sailed straight past me. :irked:

Ended up P11 for 157 points. Not happy. :indiff:


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Slot 3
 
This round went slightly better than the previous 2 rounds.

I qualified in P14 with a 2:20.2, which was disappointing since in practice races i was doing 2:19.5's, but even then that would've only put me about P11.

The race got underway, and my pace wasn't the best in the race either, since i was doing 2:20's and the pack in front was pulling away. Thankfully the rain arrived at the end of lap 5, so i entered the pits and put on inters, and that allowed me to jump a couple of cars ahead, and now i was in P9.

I gained another 2 places after i overtook a BMW who was having a difficult time in the wet, and an Audi had a 3 second penalty. I did move into P6 for a couple of laps after the Ferrari that was 2 seconds ahead of me spun off at Stavelot, but they had good pace in the wet and they caught back up to me and overtook me after a couple of laps.

In the end i finished in P7, which i'am happy with, and i walked away with 196 points, which is 10 less than i received for finishing P7 at Dragon Trail.

I do wonder if i never fell a couple of seconds behind the pack in dry conditions, maybe i could've gained 1 or 2 extra places during the transition from dry to wet.

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Americas slot 6, GT2, 136 point lobby, door 8, 100% dry race.

Q8 to P8 Ina pretty boring and tedious race. Was up to 5th after the shenanigans at the beginning and just slowly fell back from there in the Porsche. Had a few good scraps along the way, but overall a disappointing round. I was really hoping for rain.

96 points at the end and off to the Glen we go!
 
Finished my race
Here is the debrief
Lowest point lobby this season with 95 points for the win.
Q: p2 2.19.9
All DRB and SRS
Before the start, I gave a look at the radar and I figured that the rain would come at the end of lap 5 and it did. So I pitted at the end of for inters. The leader didn’t had he missed read the radar (that what he said in chat). I also got a bit of fuel just to be sure I’ll get to the end.
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Came out behind a red Audi that started behind me but it wasn’t long before I got by on the out lap.
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Also overtook the leader on the same lap since he crashed. After I got by the Audi he couldn’t keep up with me. I don’t know if it is the Porsche that is so good in wet weather, if it is because I wasn’t afraid to go into lower gears, or if it is because I live in Quebec and it is no grip city six months a year, but I think I’m am very good managing inters in wets conditions . That being say on lap 13 I had a healthy 14 seconds lead. After that I decided to manage a bit my pace just to be more careful cause I started to realize that a win was possible. Slowly but surely the laps came ticking down and I won by 9.4 seconds ahead of skeleton rexy Porsche.
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This was my first win in a manufacturer cup and I’m very proud of how I improved overall in the last year has a driver. That also make for a nice farewell to my trusty 911 who will retire at the end of the season. I now hope to get a good haul of points next time out in Watkins glen and try to get into the top 50 (currently sitting in p57) in the gt2 America class.
Have a very nice end of your season guys and catch you later 🫡
 
Finished my race
Here is the debrief
Lowest point lobby this season with 95 points for the win.
Q: p2 2.19.9
All DRB and SRS
Before the start, I gave a look at the radar and I figured that the rain would come at the end of lap 5 and it did. So I pitted at the end of for inters. The leader didn’t had he missed read the radar (that what he said in chat). I also got a bit of fuel just to be sure I’ll get to the end.
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Came out behind a red Audi that started behind me but it wasn’t long before I got by on the out lap.
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Also overtook the leader on the same lap since he crashed. After I got by the Audi he couldn’t keep up with me. I don’t know if it is the Porsche that is so good in wet weather, if it is because I wasn’t afraid to go into lower gears, or if it is because I live in Quebec and it is no grip city six months a year, but I think I’m am very good managing inters in wets conditions . That being say on lap 13 I had a healthy 14 seconds lead. After that I decided to manage a bit my pace just to be more careful cause I started to realize that a win was possible. Slowly but surely the laps came ticking down and I won by 9.4 seconds ahead of skeleton rexy Porsche.
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This was my first win in a manufacturer cup and I’m very proud of how I improved overall in the last year has a driver. That also make for a nice farewell to my trusty 911 who will retire at the end of the season. I now hope to get a good haul of points next time out in Watkins glen and try to get into the top 50 (currently sitting in p57) in the gt2 America class.
Have a very nice end of your season guys and catch you later 🫡
Your 911 is probably going to be retired tomorrow, as all Porsche drivers get an upgrade in the update! Just in time for the final round at Watkins Glen!!!
 
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