Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup 2025 Exhibition 3 season: 12 Nov - 29 Nov)

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This is an awkward round to practice for. I've been trying to roughly replicate the conditions in a custom race to get a feel for tyre wear but the AI is a menace.

I pit for Softs when the racing line had just about dried enough with rear tyres at about 33%, which was end of lap 7. 3 laps later, the AI was still going with Inters that were now practically bald. Trying to trace the dry line and get a feel for how long the Softs last with the AI cars being unpredictable and braking extremely early on it is a nightmare. Would turn them off but kind of need them to make the track dry out in a more reasonable time frame.

Starting to suspect the IM-S-IM-S 3 stop might end up being the way to go. The Inters don't last all that long. My custom race's first lap started out wetter than free practice does, so I suspect I got less wear than the real thing will cause.
 
This is an awkward round to practice for. I've been trying to roughly replicate the conditions in a custom race to get a feel for tyre wear but the AI is a menace.

I pit for Softs when the racing line had just about dried enough with rear tyres at about 33%, which was end of lap 7. 3 laps later, the AI was still going with Inters that were now practically bald. Trying to trace the dry line and get a feel for how long the Softs last with the AI cars being unpredictable and braking extremely early on it is a nightmare. Would turn them off but kind of need them to make the track dry out in a more reasonable time frame.

Starting to suspect the IM-S-IM-S 3 stop might end up being the way to go. The Inters don't last all that long. My custom race's first lap started out wetter than free practice does, so I suspect I got less wear than the real thing will cause.
To test in custom, try adding only 1 AI and start them in p2.
Best way to test track conditions and also track your full race time for trying different strategies.
 
This is an awkward round to practice for.
Definitely! I've been hesitant to even try a custom race. I remember practicing a fair bit in custom races for the wet Gr.3 race we had at RBR a few seasons ago -- the one where the Ferrari was the META -- only to discover in the race that the track dried much slower than it did in practice.

I tried another 30-lap session in free practice this morning. I switched to RSs on lap 26 to see how they would do for a final stint if the IMs don't last. The moisture gauge stayed above the lower tick mark until lap 30, even on the 'dry' line. They were not any faster than the IMs and may have even been slightly slower. I imagine the track would dry up quicker with more cars on the track, but since there's way to try the weather pattern outside of free practice, I have no way to tell. Awkward, for sure.

The rain on lap 15 was a problem again. I braked early for T3 -- apparently not nearly early enough -- and went sailing past the corner. I'm starting to feel like pitting at the end of lap 14 for IMs might be the smartest move for me. I worry that the IMs won't last to the end of the race if I do, though. And again, there's no way to test it in free practice. Sigh.
 
I think strat wise I’m gonna go as conservative as possible and bring something home. Toooooo many variables to think for me anything other that as my target.

Stepping away from actual strat, I am guessing probably quite high attrition in this race, also there will be a real mix of people that dial in to this sort of car and those that don’t.

Based on driving feel I’m gonna give it a good shot, and strat by feel and see how that lands first race (I can only do 2 slots, same as moose the dailies clubbed my DR down to B, I’ll be back in A ironically when the race happens! Grrrrr)
 
To test in custom, try adding only 1 AI and start them in p2.
Best way to test track conditions and also track your full race time for trying different strategies.
That's how I normally do it. The issue is trying to get a decent recreation of the back-and-forth mixed weather conditions in this round.

If you run with 1 AI car, the track will take much longer to dry than if there's the full field of 16, making it harder to get the feel for tracing the dry line whilst it expands at a roughly equivalent pace.

If you run with the full 16 and the AI cars decide they'd rather stay out when it's dried up enough to switch to Softs after the first 6-7 laps, the ones that get past whilst in the pits turn into unpredictable rolling roadblocks hanging around on the dry line with shredded Inters.

I've since seen the AI follow me in at the pits on a different run, so it seems like a dice roll.
 
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Gran Turismo World Series Nations Cup Exhibition Season Returns October 15

After quite the lull across 2025, following the official qualifying for the Gran Turismo World Series itself, the Exhibition Seasons return this month — beginning with a Nations Cup event starting October 15...
These are some very interesting regulations, indeed! Even the two rounds that have you use the X2019 aren't exactly the same, as one has just RM and RS available, while the second one to feature it has all three Racing compounds available! Could that first round at RBR potentially have rain, as well?

EDIT: For that last round at Le Mans, I recall there being a GTWS race similar to it, wherein the Porsche 919 was the most popular pick, but we'll see if that changes with the GT-R LM Nismo essentially getting buffed. Not to mention that I recall that the older race had a mandatory pitstop whereas this one doesn't, so I wonder if that could play a factor? Especially if it rains!
 
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the second one to feature it has all three Racing compounds available
One interesting thing I noticed with that race is that all three compounds are available, but there isn't a requirement that they all be used. This is different from the race in London, where all the compounds were required. Not sure if that is a mistake or intentional. Suppose we'll find out as that round approaches.
Could that first round at RBR potentially have rain, as well?
I guess you haven't tried any laps out in Free Practice yet. You'll find that the track starts wet and gradually dries out until rain hits briefly around lap 15, then more substantially at lap 18. I would definitely plan to be driving in the rain for it.
 
I did a 30 test laps and the first 3 laps with the IM are already painful to me.
Even if i put TC at 5 the car tend to spin every time (using automatic gear).

Unfortunately on free trial you don't see tire consumption so I mechanically decided to put Soft at lap 8 and till lap 13 is fine. As soon as the first drops arrive I was already out of track...

The challenge for me will be complete the race without going out 4-5 times...
If I will gain any position it will be for other's mistakes.
 
Looking forward to Round 1, I like a mix of interesting strategy and a nice fast car, shame about the track, have they disabled track limits? I didn't get any practicing.
I'll have to race down under though, because for the UK round this Wednesday I should be able to claim to be first the UK based player to miss a championship round because of a Sumo Tournament.
 
Looking forward to Round 1, I like a mix of interesting strategy and a nice fast car, shame about the track, have they disabled track limits? I didn't get any practicing.
I'll have to race down under though, because for the UK round this Wednesday I should be able to claim to be first the UK based player to miss a championship round because of a Sumo Tournament.
Exiting the Pit I got the famous 3 seconds... but because having slick that side is wet so I immediately spin... with manual I would get out in third or forth gear in that moment...
 
FWIW, I've all but given up on trying to push through the short blast of rain on lap 15. Every attempt I've made at it has ended with a spin or off-track excursion. I'm planning to pit at the end of lap 14 for IMs. I'll stick to the wet edges of track to keep the tires from burning out before the rain returns on lap 18. I suspect I'll need to go in for another tire change at some point afterwards.

By the way, I find it very curious how the rate at which the track dries seems to vary throughout the race in Free Practice. It takes 6 laps for the dry line to appear at the start. After the short rain on lap 15, though, the dry line returns almost immediately after the rain stops. And then after the heavier rain on lap 18, the moisture gauge stays above the first tick until lap 30. Granted in each of these cases, the moisture gauge tops out at different levels, but it still seems like the track dries out a different rates. Maybe I'm just imagining things.
 
FWIW, I've all but given up on trying to push through the short blast of rain on lap 15. Every attempt I've made at it has ended with a spin or off-track excursion. I'm planning to pit at the end of lap 14 for IMs. I'll stick to the wet edges of track to keep the tires from burning out before the rain returns on lap 18. I suspect I'll need to go in for another tire change at some point afterwards.

By the way, I find it very curious how the rate at which the track dries seems to vary throughout the race in Free Practice. It takes 6 laps for the dry line to appear at the start. After the short rain on lap 15, though, the dry line returns almost immediately after the rain stops. And then after the heavier rain on lap 18, the moisture gauge stays above the first tick until lap 30. Granted in each of these cases, the moisture gauge tops out at different levels, but it still seems like the track dries out a different rates. Maybe I'm just imagining things.
I can confirm your feelings.
At lap 18 rain comes again but as short shower and within 3-4 laps you see already the dry track but in reality if you put soft you will spin. it is like the track stays dirty longer.
Being on trial session I pit again for IM and I kept till lap 30.
Unfortunately you don't have any indication of tire health, but the car was performing well at least till lap 27-28 (with my driving style).

The point is: what happen when you have 16 cars on the track? What happen when you have dry line but outside is still wet and you want to overtake?
I already know that I will struggle a lot.
This race will not be for beginners...
 
FWIW, I've all but given up on trying to push through the short blast of rain on lap 15. Every attempt I've made at it has ended with a spin or off-track excursion. I'm planning to pit at the end of lap 14 for IMs. I'll stick to the wet edges of track to keep the tires from burning out before the rain returns on lap 18. I suspect I'll need to go in for another tire change at some point afterwards.
I think I'm with you and playing it safe by pitting for Inters at the end of lap 14. That lap 15 shower is just too much.

I still can't help but wonder if that will change in race conditions though. I find the dry line still has water on it by the time the shower hits in free practice. Maybe the extra cars will dry things out to the point where the lap 15 rain will take it back up to the crossover where it's survivable, rather than over it and into clear Inters territory...?

Even if it does, maybe it won't make a difference. The ones who stayed out at Berlin and got to take the Inters to the end because of it didn't have much tyre life left at the end. The track will dry quicker after the second wet phase with 16 cars so taking the Inters to the end would be even harder. Kind of expecting this to be an IM-S-IM-S 3-stop now but maybe some people will attempt the 2-stop.

I can confirm your feelings.
At lap 18 rain comes again but as short shower and within 3-4 laps you see already the dry track but in reality if you put soft you will spin. it is like the track stays dirty longer.
Being on trial session I pit again for IM and I kept till lap 30.
Unfortunately you don't have any indication of tire health, but the car was performing well at least till lap 27-28 (with my driving style).

The point is: what happen when you have 16 cars on the track? What happen when you have dry line but outside is still wet and you want to overtake?
I already know that I will struggle a lot.
This race will not be for beginners...
Is this your first race with a wet-to-dry transition? If it is, enjoy. 😅

When it comes to passing whilst following a dry line, you either need to put a lot of pressure on the car in front and force an error, or just throw caution to the wind. It'll get easier as the dry line expands, to the point where you could potentially get alongside on the inside whilst partially on it. Turns 4 and 9 would probably be the best places to do that, since the dry line will help to "catch" you as it comes across the track for the apex. Still probably going to be a risky move though.
 
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If this was the road car race the passing off line is feasible but in the RB cars it’s so inconsistent.

I play in VR and my perspective and feel of the track is a little different (nothing changes, just view perspective) probably won’t matter for much as it really only helps with car positioning and feel on the wheel.

I would say in the transitional condition phases it doesn’t feel worth it unless it’s better exits but it’s RBR so easy to defend.
 
Just watched Guy Barbara doing round 1 with the larger lobby. He made the winning Berlin strategy work with a 2-stop, but it looks incredibly risky with the extra drying.

The track does dry up considerably more than on free practice. The dry line was completely dry by lap 10, as opposed to never hitting it by lap 15 when running alone. He pit at the end of lap 5 and keeping the Softs alive long enough to go to the end of lap 17 was actually a concern. It also required staying out into the first rain shower with tyres that looked like this...

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After pitting at the end of lap 17, he then actively looked for wet patches the whole way and his tyres looked like this at the end:

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I'm definitely 3 stopping now. 😅

Edit - Also, qualifying is dry. Do not forget to switch to Inters for race start!
 
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Quick note for those who care about tire decals: Mandatory Dunlop tire decals are not yet here for this season. Would expect that either in Manu or either in Exhibition Season 4.
 
I watched a French stream earlier -- must have been a GT2 league race. A couple observations stood out to me:
  1. The track is dry for qualifying
  2. Like @Zorz already pointed out, the track does dry faster than in Free Practice
  3. The brief rain on lap 15 still raises the moisture gauge well above the first tick, which means I'll be pitting for IMs at the end of lap 14.
  4. The IMs wear pretty quickly from laps 16-18, until the rain returns
  5. There is virtually no tire wear on the IMs while it is raining.
  6. The moisture gauge fell below the first tick somewhere around lap 24 and the dry started to become visible. The streamer that I watched switched to RS tires at the end of lap 23 and really struggled for the first couple laps. I'm feeling like lap 25 is when I'll aim to pit for slicks.
Good luck to everybody racing today!
 
I just did a race down under, quite strong GT1 field, I only qualified 14th. Had a clean start to the race, switched to RS after 7 laps. I was running 11th at the end of lap 14, surprisingly I was the only one to pit! The top 3 made it round another lap and pitted before the track was too wet, the rest (barring a couple of tailenders who never went to slicks) were spinning all over the place.

By the time it all settled down I was in a strong 4th, well ahead of the chasing pack. P2 simply vanished in the middle of lap 19, so upto 3rd. I was already planning on playing safe and staying with Inters to the finish, I figured I might as well get fresh tyres sooner than later, so pitted for new Inters at the end of lap 21.

Which turned out to be a bit of a borderline decision, the laps ticked by cleanly, holding on to 3rd. But those inters were wearing down fast, the last three laps I was taking it real easy to look after them. A couple of slick runners were closing in fast, another half a lap and I've been down to 5th, but I made it to the finish 3rd. Picking up a nice trophy for my GT1 debut down under.

[Found a link to a live stream]
 
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Had my first long race in years. I drove out for Qualy on IM tyres and came back to change quick. After that i bottled my first lap and had time for only one more that gave me P3. After an initial chaos in the first lap i was about P4 to 5 and pretty happy.

My first stop to RS tyres was about lap 8 or 9. The guy from behind after the pit exit who was still on IM just didn't expect me to try to defend the dry line of course (up to T3) and spun me but i didn't lose much. Later that lap or the next i spun him a bit since we where constantly trying to take different lines.

I suppose nobody read the forum as i was the only one to pit for IM at the end of lap 14. Lot of going off track in lap 15. I was P2 for that period.

I changed back to RS in lap 25 i guess. You know when you switch to slicks and due to that the auto mode drives really slow at the wet pit exit? It felt like it took forever to get on track again. Finished P3 happily and won't look back.
 
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I've done it like this, hopefully you'll find it somehow helpful.

Started on IM as track is wet (check weather before start, might be very misleading as qualifiers are on dry track...), when track gets dry go for RS (wet marker should be below 1/4th at least in racing line), then IM again when it starts to rain for 2nd time, then for last couple of laps RS's or RM's. Which compound depends on track dryness and your tires wear, I would recommend go faster than later with a change as most probably you won't be able to finish on IM's. I needed to change 3 laps before finish. No need to refuel at all.

Overall, it's fun but very challenging race. Made 6th place in Rank B, I take it, not bad as it's my first Nations cup in this rank. Had a chance for 5th (+2 seconds gap) though instead of going faster on last two laps on RM's I made some mistakes and got slower than on IM's...:banghead: But I won't repeat it as it's really lengthy (around 50 minutes in total), lot's of factors comes in place like some wild drivers who breaks only when're bumping on your back, and those weather changes and track dryness vs. tires type and wear that makes you constantly think "when should I pit and for which compound" :D

Good luck out there at Red Bull Ring, fellow drivers! :cheers:
 
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Now this was a welcome surprise and a perfect start to the season for me! GT1, mid-A DR

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Since I'd dedicated my practice time almost entirely to IM conditions, my quali time was a very bleh 11.5xx...
Managed to avoid all the first lap chaos and pitted at the end of lap 7 for softs. Put in solid laps and pitted again for inters at the end of lap 14. This proved crucial as it allowed me to pretty much cruise to the lead as others tried extending their RS stint.
The two-stop wasn't an option for me on pad and to be safe I took on another set of inters at the end of lap 25. Slicks are definitely quicker for the final stint, but since I had a lead of almost 8 seconds I prioritized minimal risk over absolute pace.

Despite a short grass excursion after the final turn of lap 29 I managed to bring it home for 182 points and my first win with the X2019!
 
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I was hoping for something good today after studying the Berlin final to work out strategy, but this? Hell no. Absolutely buzzing now. This kind of feels illegal as I haven't touched GT7 for months since the end of the official season, and only picked it up again a few days ago.

I started P2 with a 1:10.027, just 0.003s off pole. I completely screwed up lap 1, going wide at turn 1 (thankfully no penalty) and then having to take evasive action to avoid taking out pole at the top of the hill. I hadn't practiced driving in dirty air and slipstream and it was clear to see. That dropped me down to P6, although I was in P5 for the start of lap 2 after a French driver spun coming out the last turn.

I was too aggressive into turn 1 again on lap 2 after getting caught out by slipstream, giving me a poor exit and allowing the Czech behind me through and sending me back down into P6. Lap 3 saw me take a position after a Brit hit a Greek wide at the start of sector 3. Neither went off, but it compromised the Brit allowing me up to P5. I then made a mistake on lap 4 in the middle of sector 2, allowing the Brit back through. P6 again.

The Czech and a different Greek driver pit at the end of lap 5 to go to slicks, with the Czech going onto Mediums. I stayed out and pit at the end of lap 6, emerging in P9 behind the Czech and Greek. The Czech driver went for a spin in sector 2 and then the Greek had a very sudden direction change down the straight with the penalty line. Just exited stage left! P7.

A few others had stayed out until lap 8 before pitting for slicks, and I was back up in P2 by the start of lap 9. I felt better seeing this as it felt like I'd cancelled out my blunders at the start. Now's where things got weird though, and I couldn't tell since I play in VR. The German in the lead had taken a pit stop at the end of lap 8, but came back out on new Inters. He'd built up a hefty lead during the opening stint, but I was reeling him back in rapidly and was back on top of him by lap 12. I thought it was strange seeing him go for wet patches, and how quickly the gap came down.

He lifted off at the start of lap 13 whilst off the dry line which let me past. I think he hit pause and went into auto-drive looking at the replay. :boggled: Not sure if he was letting me past because keeping me behind would mean he couldn't save his Inters and ruin his unusual pit strategy, or if something had happened. Either way, I was in the lead and didn't care.

I came in to the pits for Inters at the end of lap 14 as I wasn't intending to play dangerously with the rain showers, emerging in P4. I'd caught up with the German again in the middle of lap 16 and got past him in sector 2 whilst he was struggling on dying tyres, so back up to P1. I stayed there until the end of lap 25 when I pit to get rid of my heavily worn Inters for new Softs, and I was back in P4.

At this point I was thinking that maybe this is where the safe strat had ultimately come back to bite me. Getting past cars on Inters whilst I'm confined to the dry line was going to be a nightmare. However, they were struggling and didn't want to fight. The Brit lifted in the middle of sector 2 to let me past on lap 28, then I got a run on the Czech down the penalty line straight and he/she conceded the place heading into the right-hander.

From here I was wondering where the German was, then I saw him coming out of the pits at the start of lap 29. I didn't know what tyres he was on though, but I had to suspect Softs. I was right. From there I was trying to get close but I was about a second back. Then he made a mistake on the final lap at the end of sector 2, taking too much kerb and sliding wide trying to catch the car as it went off the dry line. I went for it, got in front and then stayed there.

Crazy, crazy race. I'm VERY surprised the German managed to make the Inters-Inters-Inters-Softs strategy work. :eek: He'd have had the win if not for his mistake! 261 points for my efforts, can't ask for a better start to the season. 🥳

 
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I was hoping for something good today after studying the Berlin final to work out strategy, but this? Hell no. Absolutely buzzing now. This kind of feels illegal as I haven't touched GT7 for months since the end of the official season, and only picked it up again a few days ago.

I'll come back and edit this later with a proper rundown after I've reviewed the replay. For now, I'll summarise as follows. Started P2, 0.003s off pole. Absolutely bottled it on laps 1 and 2 getting caught out by slipstream and having to take myself wide to not hit anyone in front. Ended up down in P6.

Back up to P2 after pitting for Softs on lap 6, then spent a long time in the lead because the German was doing some weird strategy that I couldn't see in VR. Ended up in P4 after pitting for Softs on lap 25, back up to P2 passing people on dying tyres (I assume) and then stole P1 when the German went wider than he wanted at the end of sector 2 on the final lap and had to lift.

261 points for the win. 🥳
I shall derive unwarranted encouragement from the fact that your A+ overall race time is just under 5 seconds quicker than my plebian mid-A run :D
 
I shall derive unwarranted encouragement from the fact that your A+ overall race time is just under 5 seconds quicker than my plebian mid-A run :D
Honestly if you can do that kind of pace in the X2019, you're VERY solid. I think my DR is about 54k, so whilst I'm in A+ it's not all that far into it.

It's one of the cars I'm comparatively strongest with, so if you're only a little bit slower overall, you should definitely take confidence if you're currently in mid A. :cheers:
 
When these races go bad you wonder why you bother... but when they go well the buzz can be epic!

Realised before slot one I hadn't done any dry laps so hopped on for 15 minutes and found enough pace for a 1:09. Come quali that was enough for P4, and at the start that was upgraded to P2 when the two cars ahead started on softs...

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Game on, I hung on to the Italian up front and we pulled out a nice gap. Pitted two laps before him at the end of 6 and the undercut got me a comfortable lead when he stopped two laps later.

Now I was racing a lapped car who was happy to drive around me ghosted. Assume they started on softs, were similar pace to me but incredibly distracting when there's a single dry line and you're trying not to bin it. Not very sporting.

Italian drove back up to my bumper and sat there until lap 14 when we both took inters. I knew he was quick so didn't fight and sat behind him as the strong rain hit. Pace was good until I got a wiggle on in the esses...

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...and ended up facing the barrier. The lapped driver behind me did the same. Lost 15 seconds to P1 but was still in P2 by a small margin.

Ten laps later and things were looking more comfortable, the leader took softs on lap 25, I stuck with inters. This gained me 5 seconds just on the pit exit and was now less than 5 behind.

Thanks to everyone who posted strategy here, without a spin I may have won but P2 was almost as good, 271 points and just 8 seconds behind the Italian (who is always right up the leaderboards in twitchy fast cars).

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Honestly, loads of work stuff happening at the moment, this causes life drama so I didn’t do the amount of practice I’d usually do.

Couple this with such daily racing standards I really couldn’t muster the effort it takes.

I’m really glad most of you had fun, just things didn’t line up for me
 
I ran the 12PM EDT GT2 slot in the Americas on my alt account (#79), which is mid-B DR. I was in door #5 with 91 points up for grabs. I qualified with a time of 1.11.661. Not bad, but I felt I could do better. That landed me in Q2.

The race got off to a great start. The pole sitter (in the grey PS livery) forgot to change to IM tires and immediately gave me the lead. The Q3 car got a great jump off the start and beat me to T1, but out-braked himself, handing the lead back to me.
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I only managed to hold the lead for 4 laps, though. That's when I spun up my tires too much on the downhill stretch after T6 and went flying off into the sand. Down to P4, 12 seconds back from the new leader.

As the race went on, I was gradually able to work my way back up to P2 -- thanks mostly to poor strategy choices by the cars ahead -- and narrow the gap to the leader to ~5 seconds. I pitted for RSs at the end of lap 5, then IMs on lap 14, and RSs again at 25.

Wouldn't you know it, I went for another spin re-entering the track from the pits. That put the leader 20s ahead, but I kept P2 and held it to the end.

That's 87 points and 4% DR lift. I'm tempted to try again, but I think I'll just leave well enough alone.

I'm not planning to do any Nations races on my main account this season. I have the DR leveled just right to have competitive races in the Ford GT Race Car '18 (Gr.3), which I plan to drive in the Manu Cup.
 
Well what a first round at the Nations cup this was for me. I tackled the 7pm slot as I came back from work and, de streessed and hopped onto GT7 while watching Sammysnakes racing YT stream and his attempt. I did the 5min qualifier (too short) and got like 11th place or higher and then pushed on into the race and started on my IM tyres. I went for a 8 IM, then 6RS but it rained and I almost bailed it into a barrier, thn back to IM for another 8, then last few laps completed it on RS tyres to score a 32 point lead and 3rd place podium finish!

My perserverance paid off and some very sketchy drivers all over in a C lobby, a middle eastern guy on lap 6 spun out and decide to take me with him on the GRAZ turn T7 then T8 leading up the hill. This lost me major time but then he pitted so I reocovered it slightly. The leader was miles ahaed and lapped me near the end but, I kept chasing him till the end. Fun race but incredibley unpredictable and manic for a first race lol. Now I'm back up to B/S rank now. Chamon!!

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In race 1 it started ok and then everything went wrong. Let's forget it.

In race 2 however, it started not good with quali botched by a penalty, started 12th, but after the start I slowly started to work my way up, capitalising mainly on others' mistakes (like starting with a wrong tire 😅).
Everything worked (lap 7, lap 14, lap 25) as tested by the kind people here, so thank you! :bowdown:

One penalty in the end of the race, but even without it I would probably finish in the same place.
Up 8, that looks nice:

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Qute a few drop-outs, field dispersed heavily, but hey, I was last not to get lapped. Yay! :dopey:

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