GT Academy only US and Euro

GinoLicious

GinoLicious

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I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I have been on these boards since the start of GT5 and didnt see a thread for it. Im kinda disappointed in that GT academy is not available to Canadian residents. I think that the US academy should have been North America, or just Canada and US if you wanted to exclude Mexico. Just as in Europe, there are several European countries and not just a few. Was there a legitimate reason as to why GT Academy was not available to Canadians? and no please dont say its cause we suck.
 
The academy is marketing so the most effort is being expended on regions which will show the greatest return in games sold.
 
Ask PD to bring it to Canada. Infact, who says that they arn't planning or setting one up for Canada/Australia/Russia etc?
 
GinoLicious
I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I have been on these boards since the start of GT5 and didnt see a thread for it. Im kinda disappointed in that GT academy is not available to Canadian residents. I think that the US academy should have been North America, or just Canada and US if you wanted to exclude Mexico. Just as in Europe, there are several European countries and not just a few. Was there a legitimate reason as to why GT Academy was not available to Canadians? and no please dont say its cause we suck.
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Do you have a problem with Mexican drivers? I can teach you one thing or two if you want.
 
BigYoSpeck
The academy is marketing so the most effort is being expended on regions which will show the greatest return in games sold.
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This.

Europe and USA are by far the largest markets they will have for the game, likely followed by Japan. Why they didn't include Canada in the with the US, I don't know, nor do I care (I don't play online), but certainly it would be more trouble then it is worth in business terms to set up something like this for an individual country like Australia or Canada where the market is not significant enough. Plus with all the problems experienced in the USA Academy so far (also seen in the Europe one as well apparently), it seems they need to get their act together before further branching out, lest they bring more bad press upon themselves.
 
stefanOst
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This.

Europe and USA are by far the largest markets they will have for the game, likely followed by Japan. Why they didn't include Canada in the with the US, I don't know, nor do I care (I don't play online), but certainly it would be more trouble then it is worth in business terms to set up something like this for an individual country like Australia or Canada where the market is not significant enough. Plus with all the problems experienced in the USA Academy so far (also seen in the Europe one as well apparently), it seems they need to get their act together before further branching out, lest they bring more bad press upon themselves.
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Legal reasons I assume and the fact that our population is 10% of the US. Not a big market here.
 
GinoLicious
I think that the US academy should have been North America, or just Canada and US if you wanted to exclude Mexico. Was there a legitimate reason as to why GT Academy was not available to Canadians? and no please dont say its cause we suck.
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Is there a legitimate reason that Mexico got excluded too as well as ALL the other Latin American countries?

It's called market, sorry to rain on your parade but Canada is not a big market for GT5, in that case, Latin America would have been first, as a whole it is a WAY bigger market than Canada. If not, do some very basic google/wiki research about Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, and all the other smaller latin countries.

I could even go further, either Mexico or Brazil are bigger markets themselves than Canada.

And the cherry on the cake: Mexico, Argentina and Brazil each have given much more great race car drivers than Canada, even Colombia as a way smaller country than yours. ;)
 
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No I dont have a problem with Mexican drivers. But going back to what everyone else is saying about game markets, personally I would thinking Canada and US do hold a very strong game market opposed to Mexico. Hence why i had Mexico excluded from the list. Theres always a reason, not just plain ignorance buddy. Now back on track. I personally feel that US and Canada do make up a fair amount of sales for GT5 and that it shouldnt have been only sectioned off to the US as that there are many Canadians playing GT5.
 
This is the first year the GT Academy has been anywhere besides Europe. It makes sense that it came to the US Market next because it is most likely the next largest portion of GT5 sales (hurray for consumerism :dunce: )

I'd say instead of saying it SHOULD BE other places already, be aware that it's an expanding idea and they might expand to canada/australia/latin america or even Asia in the near future.
 
The GT Academy has nothing to do with GT5 sales, and doesn't have much to do with PD. The Academy is run between Sony and Nissan, and it runs where Sony and Nissan can get the best return in publicity, and that leads to more sales, which obviously leads to more money.

If Sony and Nissan don't feel they'll get a worthwhile return from Canada, or anywhere else they don't currently have an academy, then they won't run one. They're not doing this for our benefit.
 
daan
The GT Academy has nothing to do with GT5 sales, and doesn't have much to do with PD. The Academy is run between Sony and Nissan, and it runs where Sony and Nissan can get the best return in publicity, and that leads to more sales, which obviously leads to more money.

If Sony and Nissan don't feel they'll get a worthwhile return from Canada, or anywhere else they don't currently have an academy, then they won't run one. They're not doing this for our benefit.
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Make your mind up :)
 
freight48
He did. Read it carefully. He said it has nothing to do with GT5 sales. It has to do with Nissan sales.
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I was being facetious dude :)

I get his point in that it's more about brand promotion for Sony and Nissan than direct sales of copies of GT5.
 
Diesel Pump
Is there a legitimate reason that Mexico got excluded too as well as ALL the other Latin American countries?

It's called market, sorry to rain on your parade but Canada is not a big market for GT5, in that case, Latin America would have been first, as a whole it is a WAY bigger market than Canada. If not, do some very basic google/wiki research about Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, and all the other smaller latin countries.

I could even go further, either Mexico or Brazil are bigger markets themselves than Canada.

And the cherry on the cake: Mexico, Argentina and Brazil each have given much more great race car drivers than Canada, even Colombia as a way smaller country than yours. ;)
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I know your ButtHURT over Mexico being mentioned..

But all this BS about how big your latin american markets are is well just that.. BS!

The OP is concerned with an online portion of the game. Canada has by far the highest users per capita of the Internet of any market on the planet. We have less broke asses and more resources dedicated to the Internet over any other 1st world country.

Sorry but Brazil, Mexico, and all the other latin American countries not considered apart of the "1st World" countries would not even be able to hold a candle to the amount of usage Canadians see. Sorry.. I did rain on your parade!

So there is your market. PD ****ed up as per usual and neglected a HUGE segment with online and Canadians.. but meh who cares, this whole game is a waste.
 
daan
The GT Academy has nothing to do with GT5 sales, and doesn't have much to do with PD. The Academy is run between Sony and Nissan, and it runs where Sony and Nissan can get the best return in publicity, and that leads to more sales, which obviously leads to more money.

If Sony and Nissan don't feel they'll get a worthwhile return from Canada, or anywhere else they don't currently have an academy, then they won't run one. They're not doing this for our benefit.
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BigYoSpeck
Make your mind up
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He pointed out that it has nothing to do with GT5 sales, but IS to do with Nissan sales.

14-18 year old gamers often don't own a car and have limited opportunities to build up brand pre-conceptions. Nissan would LOVE half an hour in their heads :D
 
I think, in Canada, there are legal issues with contests and rewards - mainly pertaining to Quebec. Have you ever noticed how many public contests exclude Quebec residents?

From what I can gather, some branch of the Quebec government requires a bunch of paperwork with an absurd lead time and collects duties on any prizes awarded to Quebec residents. They have given themselves the authority to confiscate prizes from public contests if the duties aren't paid.

Maybe Sony didn't want to pay a lawyer to work through this BS.

Stupid government.

I have no idea if other countries were excluded from the GT Academy for similar reasons.
 
orthow
I know your ButtHURT over Mexico being mentioned..

But all this BS about how big your latin american markets are is well just that.. BS!

The OP is concerned with an online portion of the game. Canada has by far the highest users per capita of the Internet of any market on the planet. We have less broke asses and more resources dedicated to the Internet over any other 1st world country.

Sorry but Brazil, Mexico, and all the other latin American countries not considered apart of the "1st World" countries would not even be able to hold a candle to the amount of usage Canadians see. Sorry.. I did rain on your parade!

So there is your market. PD ****ed up as per usual and neglected a HUGE segment with online and Canadians.. but meh who cares, this whole game is a waste.
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Ha, ha, ha, yeah, incredibly "butthurt". You can think whatever you want about your awesome country, good to see that you are proud about it.

As a little reminder, around 70% of your stuff is unpopulated ice, maybe PD should consider that for rally events, oh, and all the awesome Canadian drivers, and the HUGE population of your incredibly wonderful and economically wealthy "internet access/users" country... LOL

You made me laugh, I do know that Canadians ARE different, not as ignorant as others, you know, but I'm pretty sure it's only you the one disappointing as an outcast or something.

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Honestly, nobody will argue about your awesome Hockey skills, or your snow sports proficiency, but driving, population and market size? And daring to compare market size to Latin America with "generic internet users", LOL...

Finally, go check Nissan sales buddy in your oh so powerful rich country and sales in the oh so poor and under developed Latin America, even Mexico alone. Ha, ha, ha, it is always funny to listen to proud comments based on pride itself.

Again, a cherry on the top for you, ALL your population is less than what Mexico City and its surrounding suburbs alone have. Let alone the whole country or adding any other Latin countries. LOL!

Oh, a second cherry in case you are still hungry... How come the USA has much more commercial interaction with Mexico than with Canada? Go check the numbers pal, ha, ha, ha, maybe it is because the USA is not measuring "market" with internet fans around as you do... ha, ha, ha... I love it... specially when you said: "there's your market"... ha ha ha!
 
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Blah, blah, blah, my country is better than yours, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Why is there so much complaining and whining on this site? The competition isn't available in Canada - get over it. It's not available in Mexico - get over it.

It is nice to see sterotypes being thrown around by Canadians who most likely have never been to Mexico or South America and Mexicans who most likely have never been to Canada.

Everybody just grow up.

I will leave it at this:

F1 Drivers from the respective countries:
Brazil: Aryton Senna
Argentina: Juan Manuel Fangio
Canada: Gilles Villeneuve
Mexico: didn't find a name I recognized.

Can't we agree that each country (pretty much) has given racing some great talent?
 
Cod_Father
Blah, blah, blah, my country is better than yours, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Why is there so much complaining and whining on this site? The competition isn't available in Canada - get over it. It's not available in Mexico - get over it.

It is nice to see sterotypes being thrown around by Canadians who most likely have never been to Mexico or South America and Mexicans who most likely have never been to Canada.

Everybody just grow up.

I will leave it at this:

F1 Drivers from the respective countries:
Brazil: Aryton Senna
Argentina: Juan Manuel Fangio
Canada: Gilles Villeneuve
Mexico: didn't find a name I recognized.

Can't we agree that each country (pretty much) has given racing some great talent?
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Canadians are really cool, I love Whistler, Toronto, Montreal, etc. Awesome country in general and their people are really polite, but some outcasts do emanate from every country, and into this thing called internet... ;)

freight48
Latin America is not a country, stop treating it as such.
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Who did that? Just a little reference as when Europe is used as a whole to prove something. :cheers:
 
Diesel Pump
Canadians are really cool, I love Whistler, Toronto, Montreal, etc. Awesome country in general and their people are really polite, but some outcasts do emanate from every country, and into this forums... ;)



Who did that? Just a little reference as when Europe is used as a whole to prove something. :cheers:
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But Europe has the EU, many laws and practices are identical because of this...
 
TenEightyOne
He pointed out that it has nothing to do with GT5 sales, but IS to do with Nissan sales.

14-18 year old gamers often don't own a car and have limited opportunities to build up brand pre-conceptions. Nissan would LOVE half an hour in their heads :D
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Doesn't just work on 14-18 year olds. Even works on old farts like myself. I had never considered buying a Hyundai. Never even gave them a second look. Until the Hyundai Tournament on FM3 (4th place week 3..woot) running the Genesis. Looking at the car for the first time of any length I was like, damn that's not bad. Then I looked at specs and price and said, damn that's not bad. So much so that I think the next car I buy will be a Hyundai Genesis Coupe.
 
freight48
But Europe has the EU, many laws and practices are identical because of this...
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Latin America is a brotherhood, we are really close, and yeah, we also have a lot of International Treaties between us.

Anyway, on F1 we had Pedro Rodriguez for Ferrari, the guy was such a promise, to bad the guy died early, but did manage to win multiple Daytona 24 hours races for Porsche, Formula Cart was kind of strong for a Mexican a few years ago, Adrian Fernandez, right?

Yeah, every country gave racing drivers, cool ones. :cheers:
 
Cod_Father
Blah, blah, blah, my country is better than yours, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Why is there so much complaining and whining on this site? The competition isn't available in Canada - get over it. It's not available in Mexico - get over it.

It is nice to see sterotypes being thrown around by Canadians who most likely have never been to Mexico or South America and Mexicans who most likely have never been to Canada.

Everybody just grow up.

I will leave it at this:

F1 Drivers from the respective countries:
Brazil: Aryton Senna
Argentina: Juan Manuel Fangio
Canada: Gilles Villeneuve
Mexico: didn't find a name I recognized.

Can't we agree that each country (pretty much) has given racing some great talent?
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Mexico? Uhmmm what about Pedro and Ricardo Rodriguez. Who are they? Do some research... Sergio Perez (F1 pilot)... Adrián Fernandez... a lot of good drivers!
 
Clio182
Mexico? Uhmmm what about Pedro and Ricardo Rodriguez. Who are they? Do some research... Sergio Perez (F1 pilot)... Adrián Fernandez... a lot of good drivers!
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Luis Diaz (Sports Cars)
Adrian Fernandez (Sports Cars)
Sergio Perez (F1)
 

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