GT3 Car Guide

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Has anyone yet written a "drivers guide" to ALL of the cars in GT3 and GT Concept? Reason I ask, is because I am considering doing it. Obviously it would be a beast of a project as each car in the game would be driven and benchmarked on a couple of tracks and then written-up rather like a Car Magazine would.

Anyone be interested in reading it? Or is it a little far fetched?

Dan
 
I haven't seen one. Plenty guides talk about a few specific cars, but I can't see anybody completing something that would go into detail about all cars. For example, would it really be reasonable to spend a few hours comparing and contrasting the handling, tuning and track times of the Lancer Evolution V GSR vs. the Lancer Evolution VI GSR? Would anybody care at all if you spent time talking about the Accord Euro R?

Anything that covers every car would have to be in HTML format (or a database like kideng's) or else it just wouldn't be practical to dig through it.
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
For example, would it really be reasonable to spend a few hours comparing and contrasting the handling, tuning and track times of the Lancer Evolution V GSR vs. the Lancer Evolution VI GSR? Would anybody care at all if you spent time talking about the Accord Euro R?
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Would anybody care? Thats what I'm trying to gauge :D

Good points though. With all things in life, the devil is in the details, and GT3 is no exception...
 
I cant see one person being able to do all that. Maybe if you form a group of people to work on specific things, and then take all that data, sort it, and put it on the web. Also not everyone will come up with a same lap time for each car. If your better with one car, and not as good with another which could be as fast, then whoever checks the guide will think the other car is slower, even if in reality it might be just as good. You will probably need to get a few people to test the same cars and either put a best time on certain tracks for that car, or average lap time. Seems like alot of hard work. I would help but the time on my hands barely lets me compete in the F1 weekly racing series.

Edit: Oh yea I forgot... I would probably say I would check this GT3 car guide from time to time to see whats said about the cars, but in the end I might just test the car I need myself.
 
Some time ago I did a GT3 cars guide, which measured the stock car's ability (Speed, Handling, "Fun", Midfield Lap), the final tune level and the value for money (the total points for the previous 5 categories, out of 100, divided by the credit cost).

Each car was ranked according to points score, then ranked according to a weighted system favouring value for money over other factors.

But of course each car was stock - no tuning or settings at all.
 
The only way I think it could be done would be to make it a work in progress, where you do the most popular cars, then fill in other cars, maybe when people request them, or when other people contribute, or just as you get the time.

To be complete, though, you'd have to dig through the sites with records for different cars. I don't know if you could ever hope to have good record times for every track with every car. You need all 15 tracks, all 15 tracks backwards, and then you should also include the "normal" un-tuned times for Trial Mountain and all 10 of the PD Cup tracks. That would be over 20,000 lap records for different cars on different tracks.

BTW, is there any way to race Complex String backwards?
 
BTW, is there any way to race Complex String backwards?
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Yeah, you unlock it in Arcade Free Run when you finish Arcade racing I think...I like it quite a bit...:D
 
the was once a site that did a car magazine type test of the cars in gt3 including comarios....
i cant find it any more tho.
I'd be interested in well written and presented articles tho :)
i'd contribute but have little time to do it :(
 
ive done my own magazine type of comparison of about 30 cars purely for my own interests
just doing that is very time consuming
 
Originally posted by ving
I'd be interested in well written and presented articles tho :)
i'd contribute but have little time to do it :(
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I agree, I think it would be really interesting and amusing to read intelligent and well written critiques of the cars in GT3 and GT Concept. Much like a road test in a car magazine. You could also do group tests at certain tracks and the like. I'd love to have a go, but unfortunately other things in ones life must take priority:(

Oh well, good luck with it anyway:)
 
Thanks for the positive feedback guys :)

I was pretty sure the hardcore GT3 nuts (like myself) would enjoy something like this, and if nothing else it should keep me busy until GT4 comes out, who knows, I might start writing the GT4 version as soon as I get hold of the game.

Was thinking of benchmarking the cars on a street track (seattle?) and then on Midfield and Trial Mountain, should give a reasonable idea about the way the cars perform. Obviously they will only be my times, but this should show a reasonable comparison between cars as I am setup with wheels, pedals and seat so I'm pretty consistent.

Will let you know in a few days if I do go ahead with it, might start with the easy one first - GT Concept!

Cheers,

Dan
 
You see :rolleyes: ... this is why we need an informed guide, not just a FAQ, something that describes the cars from a driven perspective...

Mike, personally I'd start with the AE86 Trueno or the Toyota Yaris/Vitz. The Yaris is useful in the series races, but the Trueno is a proper car (ie. Rear-wheel-drive.). If I had to pick between them I'd go for the AE86. But thats just me.
 
I'd be willing to contribute some reviews. Like Famine, though, I would say it ought to be limited to stock cars, though, with maybe an additional paragraph about how it responds to modification. Because if everybody just reviews their favorite hotrods it's not going to be particularly useful in the long run.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
I'd be willing to contribute some reviews. Like Famine, though, I would say it ought to be limited to stock cars, though, with maybe an additional paragraph about how it responds to modification. Because if everybody just reviews their favorite hotrods it's not going to be particularly useful in the long run.
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I agree, reviews on stockers is the only way to do this justice. At least then you'd know what you were going to have to "fix" immediatly to make the car competitive (if it wasn't already).
I think taking your chosen car to your favorite track (singular) in the PD cup and running it stock to see how it fared might make a pretty good test. (At least for the A-Class Cars)
 
has anyone bought the versus guide? i have, and while discriptions of the car are limited, it gives each track in detail and how to set your car up for that course
 
I have the guide you mention, and I have to say that the "set-ups" are kind of vague.
My usual test of a car is to run a few laps around Midfield. If I can dial in the right amount of easily controlled oversteer for Midfield, every other course is simply a matter (mostly) of getting the gearing right.
I will lower the spring rates a bit for courses with lots of elevation changes, like Seattle or Deep Forest. And I may tighten things up a bit for a course like Cote 'd Azur or Apricot Hill.
Otherwise, once I can run quickly and consistently on Midfield, I consider the car basically set up.

Mostly, I use it to have a handy guide as to what cars I want to win.
It's more difficult, not to mention time consuming to win cars in GT3 vs GT2. I want to make sure before I enter a series race that I WANT what awaits me at the end.:lol:
 
the review i was thinking bout was on ps2planet or sumfin.
they had about 6 reviews i think including comparisons.
the only one i remember is the storia x4 tho.

yeah keep it to stock raod cars.

you got some viper gts?

you should start a website with em :)
 
Maybe if we organized to do this I won't be such a mammoth project for any one person.
I'm willing to do all the Fords, including the Cobra, and Chevies. It'll be a while as I'm about to go on vacation.
Anybody wanna do all the Dodges/Chryslers and Panoz?
 
Originally posted by ving
should I do the fiat? ;)
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NO! All you'll say is that it r0x0rs and will beat anything not carrying a wing and stickers... then again if you review anything else you'll just say it sucks compared to the Fiat.

I'm the Mopar fan. I'll take the Dodge/Chryslers, and the Panoz. After those are out of the way, I'll sign up for a few more.
 
Originally posted by neon_duke
NO! All you'll say is that it r0x0rs and will beat anything not carrying a wing and stickers... then again if you review anything else you'll just say it sucks compared to the Fiat.

I'm the Mopar fan. I'll take the Dodge/Chryslers, and the Panoz. After those are out of the way, I'll sign up for a few more.
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it will beat anything with stickers too!!! :p

and you seem to have a bias or 2 as well :p

I'll do the fiat, but i wont compare it to anything other than it's self ;)
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
OK, now who wants to compare all the Lancers on Complex String?

What about all the Lightweight K Cup cars on Test Course?
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Actually, my plan was to take the stockers to someplace like Apricot Hill. As I understand it we are not so much lapping for time, as to get a feel for the cars.
How does it handle?
What weaknesses have you noticed,?
How's the acceleration?
What about body roll?
Do you feel confident driving it?
Does it do what you want, or is it Satan incarnate?
Does it reach top gear by the end of the longest straightaway?
Then enumerate what kind of tweaks you might use to "fix" it.
Those sorts of things.
 

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