GT3 & GT4 Online...Best Car???

Discussion in 'Project CARS 1' started by twitcher, Sep 29, 2015.

  1. twitcher

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    I just played pCARS online for the first time this past weekend. Overall, it was a great experience, I'm definitely hooked :)

    The first lobby I joined was a GT4 lobby. I used the BMW M3 GT4. First time driving the car, so it had stock settings. Overall it felt good, but definitely needs work to suit my ds4 life and my style. The car was slow a :censored: on the straights though, even after removing downforce and closing the radiator & brake ducts. The Aston Martins, Ginettas and Mustangs were passing me effortlessly, even if I was getting a way better corner exit.

    Is this straight line speed down to tuning, or is it the game's BOP?


    The second lobby I joined was a GT3 lobby, where I selected the SLS AMG GT3. Once again, I had pretty much the same issues as before...I was getting walked on the straights. The McLaren seemed the fastest of the field (I think I read somewhere it was fastest...might have been in reference to a different McLaren?), but I felt slower than nearly everything else. I could keep up with people through the corners, just not on the straights. I always thought the Merc was quick in a straight line.


    So again, is there something I'm missing in tuning, or are the cars in a given class that different from each other? Or did I just by chance happen to pick the two "slow, grippy" cars?
     
  2. AnfLaw

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    Try your traction control settings, turning them down/off for shorter races will help you get a little extra punch out of the corners and help you reach top speed a little quicker without having to worry about tyre wear. Also, the opposite can be said... if you don't run with assists and the lobby forces them on you, it can really unsettle your tune. (stay away from any lobby running race cars AND stability control, it's no fun for anyone, all that grip, speed and having little to say in using it!)

    Also... and it might sound a little silly. But check your controller. I have had 2 different friends discover that their PS4 controllers R2 and L2 had broken (We play a lot of shooters and racing games, so they take the brunt of the mashing lol) and were only registering around 80% pressure when looking at the telemetry page, putting them down on power and on brakes. I'm probably just lucky to have two very unlucky friends that both had the same issue, but its worth checking, given your specific issue.

    Lastly, check your fuel levels. if you're in a 5 lap race and load a setup you made for a race that had 30 laps, it'll load in with those 30 laps of fuel onboard. Slower Acceleration, longer brake distances, slower apex speed.

    As for the classes. Everything but the Ginettas (They're great cars, but under perform badly against it's peers online and off) are fairly balanced. Except for the Bentley (silly quick) and a very well tuned Z4. (in my experience!)
     
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  3. Harry6784

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    Bentley are way OP, untouchable on the straights.
     
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  4. twitcher

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    Tested my controllers....found out one of them has a faulty R2 :(. Like you said, it was only regestering 80-90% throttle.

    Is there any way to fix this by recalibrating the controller, or should I just get a new one?
     
  5. AnfLaw

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    Damn, You might be able to mess around with the throttle deadzones, but that would change it for all controllers you use.

    There's nothing i know of that can fix it. You could remap the buttons, but that's about the only workaround i know of. If you bought it recently you might be able to send it off for repair if your still inside your warranty. Both of my friends tried the remapping option but didn't like it, so bought themselves another second hand online.

    :(
     
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  6. CountinFrames

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    Pro tip. If a little dishonest.
    Buy a new one, return the old one within 30 days. Ultra shady.
    Buy a new one, exchange the old for another new. Keep two remotes for price of one.
    Slightly less shady, but there you have it.
    Big box retailers never ask questions.
    I have four remotes all under two years old. One has a broken r2. Will be doing this soon enough.

    Highly recommend a wheel though? So much better and more immersive.
     
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  7. Awong124

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    In my own testing, the Bentley is clearly the fastest GT3 in the game right now. For me, their relative performance is as follows:

    Tier 1: Bentley Continental
    Tier 2: Aston Martin V12 Vantage, BMW Z4, McLaren 12C, Ruf RGT8
    Tier 3: Audi R8, Mercedes SLS
    Tier 4: BMW M3, Ginetta G55

    Though if it comes up in career I wouldn't pick the Bentley anyway because I think it handles like ass.
     
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  8. serialdreamer

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    i have the same problem with the r2 button of my ds4 too
    and the only solution i found,that worked,was messing with throttle sensitivity.
    i started from 100% to make sure that there was a difference...and found out it was a lil bit faster than a brand new ds4 with throttle sensitivity set to 40% (tested online with a friend racing stock z4's gt3 at the ring).
    the car was a lil hard to drive at corners,all assists off,but really faster on straights.

    so after some tests i run 75% up to gt3 cars and reducing to 60% or 50% for gt1's and lmp's

    but the best think to do is get a new ds4,i'm getting one soon 'cos after that i never stoped messing with all sensitivites on the ds4 and now i think of it like a wheel that needs different settings for every car..100% confusion.

    hope that helps.
     
  9. RoadRunner36

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    How would you say the Aston Martin V8 GTE would compare to the others?
     
  10. McKiernan

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    I my opinion there are a number of factors that play a role in determining the best/fastest GT3/4 car. The skill of the driver, the tune & the track being raced on. With so many factors at play it is very difficult to settle on a best car. In general though I would say the better GT3 cars are the Aston V12, the BMW Z4, the McLaren MP$-12C & the RUF.
     
  11. SGETI

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    Well said. The bently maybe, if all you have is long straights, but not so good in the turns. Each car has its benefits and pitfalls. The next time you are online record which cars are posting the top times on certain tracks. In a short time you will start to see a pattern of the quicker cars per track. Also take a look at the link. Hundreds of tunes for you to try.

    http://projectcarssetups.eu/#/bycar
     
  12. Awong124

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    There's been a lot of updates to the cars, so I would no longer consider those tiers to be accurate.

    Through my own testing, I would consider updated tiers to be:

    Tier 1: RGT-8, V12 Vantage, Continental, Z4
    Tier 2: 12C, R8, SLS
    Tier 3: G55, M3
    Tier 4: V8 Vantage

    The M3 is on the slow side for me, but some people can drive it as fast as the V12 Vantage. The V8 Vantage is by far the slowest. In my testing, the spread in lap times between the fastest in Tier 1 and the slowest in Tier 3 is only about a second a lap on Spa, which is a fairly long track. So the difference between Tiers 1 and 3 aren't huge. But the V8 Vantage is another 1 second a lap slower than the slowest Tier 3, so about 2 seconds a lap slower than the Tier 1s.
     
  13. twitcher

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    Umm I completely disagree about the Bently. When it first arrived in the game, it was fast in a straight line, now, not so much.

    The Bently is a beast on the brakes, extremely stable through the corners, and it's main strength is corner exit speed and accelerating from low speeds. It reaches top speed very quickly, but has the aero of a brick, so does not continue to accelerate down long straights.

    The Bently excels on tracks like Zolder, Brands Hatch, Leguna. The massive torque helps overcome high downforce levels, and since there are no long straights, you don't lose out on top speed. This mimmicks the real life characteristics of the Bently quite well. Watch BSS/BES or PWC, and the announcers usually talk about how good the Bently is in slow and medium speed stuff, but suffers in top speed (compared to a GTR, McLaren, SLS, etc).

    Take the Bently to Monza, and even with zero downforce, other cars like the SLS, V12 Vantage, RUF, even the Audi, will pass you like you're standing still on the straights
     
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  14. Awong124

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    Yeah, the Bentley has massive cornering grip, but is only mid-pack in terms of top speed compared to all the other GT3s. It only just about matches the Z4 in terms of top speed.