GT4 to use sophisticated "human engine" for pit crews and crowds

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Yamauchi also commented on the full edition of Gran Turismo 4. He talked about how the developers focused not only on the cars, but also the scenery surrounding the courses. (An example of the scenery can be seen in the Prologue edition of the Grand Canyon course, where the game recreates 25 miles of the landmark.) Another factor that the development team focused on was the characters in the game, such as the drivers, pit crews, and audience. In order to make the human movement more realistic, Gran Turismo 4 will use a physics engine similar to the one used to simulate the cars' movement in the game. The human engine program went under development five years ago and has finally reached a useable level, but Yamauchi said that it will take another 10 years for the engine to be perfected.
here's where I got the info
This pic is most def not CG at all
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Look at the guy in the blue pants, notice his foot sinking into the ground, that's not the work of CG.
Also, you can see the texture brake right unger his(this guy with the blue pants) right foot.
See how there is a line to brake the road texture and the off-road surface?
That's not CG at all.
And I believe the same goes for that new pitcrew pic.
Nuff said and a guy I know who's a ign.com insider said PD is still working on the human element, that's why we don't see much vids with the crowds and pitcrew and he saw a vid that showed off the animated crowds and he said it was a replay and was real time.
 
Thats art work, it's a render done on a PC. Stop this stupidness, everyone else can tell the difference, why can't you?.
 
If you haven't seen the vid with the crowd be quite because I can't talk to you. Now you say it's art work, oh geezz will you just shut the hell up and get some business else where? The guy saw the vid, you didn't so please just shut up.
 
Thoes people in that pic are not in game, look at the pic, just look at the pic, compare it to the pics, look at it and if you can't tell go get an eye test, get some glasses and look at it again, if you still can't tell your screwed fo life.
 
How am I screwed for life, that's stupid. This is what another guy said, he told me about their animations.


Waving hands and arms, A few running off the track and out of the way, clapping. Mostly just waving arms and turnig heads, watching the car as it went by.

And if you think I made that up I'll be happy to post the link. And they were running of the track, hmm what are the ppl in that doing so you don't have solid proof dso I suggest you stay in your place.
 
It's not CG? That makes little sense. You do know that everything in gran turismo is computer generated, right?

And you don't think that someone could model a guy's leg sinking in to mud? You're insane.

This was a prerendered shot. It is not an in-game shot.

Sheesh.
 
NO, thats somthing KY said he wants to include, he didn't say he was going to make the crowds as detailed as the cars, the crowds will still be 2d, any that run on the track might be 3d, but they will have similar detail to the rest.
 
Oh so you work at PD and know everything, please stop BS. You have no solid proof,non at all. I do, ppl who have seen the replay have told me it's ingame.
 
I have seen in game footage of animated crowds, I havn't seen people as detailed as that, you need your head checking, I don't want to some flame war everytime you make a post or thread, but the way you're going, you are a real head case you know, you don't even believe the backgrounds are photofixed.
 
Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I'll bet you my life that that is not an ingame shot.
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He's blind, and full of crap.
 
Originally posted by lsk8er
that shot isnt in game but ill bet the crowds will be animated.
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There will be animated crowds, the problem is, every promo render that comes along CobraGT makes a thread asbout how good the graphics are, everyone tells him thats not in game and he carries on saying it is.
 
Download the vid from that other forum. They are very flat looking, they have little detail and I don't even think they are 3d. Face it, if PD made them all that detailed the game would run at atleast 10 fps, if it would run at all.
 
:lol: I haven't even seen a vid of a proper ingame scene with a 3d person let along people that detailed. Like bollocks a PS2 could power that real time & even if it could what a waste of power.
 
Who the hell cares what is in-game or not?!?! Jeez, just wait until the game comes out, then we will all see! And I really don't get all you guys who are tearing down Cobragt because he thinks the shot is in-game. So what. Let him believe what he wants. I don't know why everyone is so happy to be bashing GT4's graphics anyway. You act as though the graphics are going to suck or something! When you see the real game, it may not be as good looking as that pic, but I gurantee it will still blow all of us away.
 
Though it doesn't matter too much whether the crowds are fully animated (I don't think it's gonna happen)...

I've seen animations of GT crowds and the pit crew, and they look great, and it is possible they are being generated real-time in the videos we've seen, but I don't reckon they're being generated by a PS2. Maybe dev computers, but not PS2s, and at least not in-race. I don't know of ONE video, screen shot, etc. where you see animated crowds or pit crews from the perspective of the DRIVER - that is, an onboard or trailing car-shot.

That tells me: if they're animating pit crews and crowds, it's almost certainly for the intro and ending movies, possibly for some other mode, possibly for dynamic replays... but not for in-game...
 
I take back part of what I just wrote, cos I just saw the ign video of Grand Canyon with the animated 2D crowds.

So there will be animated crowds (they run on and off the track), but not 3D crowds... I await news of the pit crews...
 
If you could get to them before they move out the way, you'll just drive straight through them.
 
Originally posted by Majin SSJ Eric
And I really don't get all you guys who are tearing down Cobragt because he thinks the shot is in-game.
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