GT4 WRS Week 178 : Mazda MX-5 @ Suzuka West Course Extra

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:: GT4 WRS Week 178 ::


Mazda MX-5 1800 RS (NB,J) '04

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Suzuka West Course Extra

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Race Details:

  • Mode: Arcade Mode > Time Trial > World Circuits
  • Track: Suzuka Circuit West
  • Make: Japan > Mazda
  • Model: MX-5 1800 RS (J) '04

Vehicle Specifics:

  • Power: (+20%) 192 hp
  • Weight: (-10%) 972 kg
  • Driving Aids: Any
  • Top Speed: NA
  • Transmission: Any
  • Tyre Type: Normal-Sports (PAL) Normal-Road (NTSC) N3's


PAL:the pictures are to clarify the tires,don't pay attention on the hp and weight numbers.
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NTSC:
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Week 178 Race Specifics:

It is known that on Suzuka West is an extra part of track
This week we have to take that extra part, please check the foto's.

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Standard Clean OLR Rules:

  • 2 wheels on (or vertically in line with) the track at all times
  • rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
  • no contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
  • if you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty
  • no hybrids
  • no cheating of any kind
  • nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
  • save your replay ('Save Ghost Replay' icon)

Thread rules:
The following info cannot be discussed in this thread (they can, however, be discussed on MSN or via other private conversation methods):

  • lap time
  • any information which can be used to infer lap time

Submission:
All submissions must be sent by PM to me (sjaak68):

  • you can submit only once per race
  • please include in your submission PM your division, name and final lap time
  • deadline is Monday 22 September 6 pm GMT
  • if you are unsure of the deadline try this site

Time verification:
Save your replay and keep it at least a full week after the time has been submitted:

  • all gold times each week will be required to submit a replay for verification
  • any submitted time is subject to a time verification request
  • when a time verification has been requested, the concerned racer must provide a replay before the next race deadline
  • failure to do so will result in the removal of the unverified submission from WRS results
  • video replays are not accepted, only .max, .xps or .sps files can be verified
  • Those who have .xps or .sps files, can they please convert them to .max before submission


 
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Nice combo there sjaak , reminds me of licence tests 👍
I'm not sure yet that if I'm using the right MX-5 thought.
Just because there are so many of them.
Atleast the specs are correct and the track is right.

anyways, here is the split for others to chase.


T1 44.321
T1 43.788
sjaak68
Yes ,it can be confusing.

Just like the tires :sly:
But the car can be bought at the Mazda dealer as Mazda MX-5 1800 RS (NB,J) '04.

However the replay will show - Mazda MX-5 1800 RS (J) '04 -
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Thanks for clearing it up

And thanks for checking my ARCAT Race Series replay recently 👍
 
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Yes ,it can be confusing.

Just like the tires :sly:
But the car can be bought at the Mazda dealer as Mazda MX-5 1800 RS (NB,J) '04.

However the replay will show - Mazda MX-5 1800 RS (J) '04 -
 
T1: 42.725

Had 42.458 but in my newer lap I did that extra part of the track and ending a lot better.

Probably 42.1 is there, and .8 overall, but doing it cleanly is very tough.
 
Great car, been using this same car in the MX-5 Cup that just started :)

Jerome
 
Gave it a first spin tonight. Fun drive :)

44,732 so far
 
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tried this one before my first cup of coffee this morning.

44.715

interesting combo Sjaak!!

After coffee:

44.650

There's more out there for sure :crazy:

44.265
 
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Quick update: 44.295

Has a very hairy moment in it, but I do believe it's clean. I'll let Andy take a look at it tomorrow.
 
raz_10
Are the light green sections considered out?
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I think they are just part of the track because they are hard surface
instead of grass/sand.

I think I know what section you have driven on that green part.
I also went alot on the green stuff before learning how to drive that
section faster.

This challenge seems to be all about grip and weight shifting

here's my newest split:

T1 43.425

I've seen a 43.1xx on that 1st sector but got no idea how
jmgyro did those 42.725 and 42.458 at T1. Is it just a typo or is it matter of NTSC > PAL again???
 
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My gracious me, if this car were any more tail-happy, it'd be a dog! :eek:

First attempt:

T1: 44.193
 
raz_10
Are the light green sections considered out?
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Standard Clean OLR Rules:

  • 2 wheels on (or vertically in line with) the track at all times
  • rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
  • no contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
  • if you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty
  • no hybrids
  • no cheating of any kind
  • nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
  • save your replay ('Save Ghost Replay' icon)
Your question is legit but in the rules nothing is mentioned about light green sections are part of the track.

So normaly they are out but because I didn't specific mentioned these areas by making the race ,it is ok to use them.

But only in the light of GT5P :sly:
In online racing it is allowed to race it without a penalty.

But correct me if I am wrong.
 
MadMax86
T1 43.425

I've seen a 43.1xx on that 1st sector but got no idea how
jmgyro did those 42.725 and 42.458 at T1. Is it just a typo or is it matter of NTSC > PAL again???
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Nice time. I'm not sure if the versions are different, but I'll just put up what I did for each turn.

--------Speed(mph)-------Speed(kmh)
Turn 1: 109---------------175.381
Turn 2: 36----------------57.924
Turn 3: 49----------------78.841
Turn 4: Max---------------Max
Turn 5: 56----------------90.104

For all turns brake enough beforehand or it slides off course badly. For turn 1 if your stable enough your tires won't slide at all. Have had this corner at 113 mph and no sliding at all, but was 50/50 going that quick there so it's easier going a bit slower.

Turn 2 is very annoying since you are usually not going the same speed as your last run, 36 mph is generally good, anywhere around there as long as you have a nice brakepoint.

Turn 3 is probably the toughest to do quick since again it's usually not in the same spot as your previous run. Seems easiest to do with some brake+accel, can do this corner with only slight sliding. Did it fairly well, but I had been going 51 mph~ which had a few car lengths ahead.

Turn 4 is just a max speed turn.

Turn 5, best to brake soon enough to cut the rumble+green strip. If you aren't braking soon enough it's very easy to slide off while going real slow so you have to go even slower to hang on. Can do around 60 mph+ if you have a great brake point, but is easier to do going a bit slower.

Hope that helped.
 
My first split!! :sly:

44.185

Sjaak, great job of replicating what we face on Prologue, which I believe was your intent. 👍

I'll be back here, but this one did have a nice finish. :)

BOARD Update. 👍
 
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jmgyro
Nice time. I'm not sure if the versions are different, but I'll just put up what I did for each turn.

--------Speed(mph)-------Speed(kmh)
Turn 1: 109---------------175.381
Turn 2: 36----------------57.924
Turn 3: 49----------------78.841
Turn 4: Max---------------Max
Turn 5: 56----------------90.104
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I've been actually doing exactly what you were quiding.
I checked my top 2 replays.

Here my turn specific lowest speed peaks

T1 43.425 ----------------- 43.115

1st turn 110 mph --------- 107 mph
2nd turn 37 mph ---------- 37 mph
3rd turn 46 mph ---------- 45 mph
4th turn max (87 mph) ---- max (87 mph)
5th turn 55 mph ---------- 56 mph

I don't think the difference would be in shifting
as I rev up to max of the rev meter before shifting gears.
And I never use the 6th gear thought it's there.

The T1 43.115 is from my other, slightly slower lap

Only difference I can see in some turn speeds would be
the amout of grip availeble.

I'm not saying that the NTSC version would posses more grip
on this car on this specific track than the PAL version.
But just thinking about it makes me smile. :D

I will keep on pushing my limits further to see more clearly.
 
EDK
Sjaak, great job of replicating what we face on Prologue, which I believe was your intent.
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I'll second that.

My first split.

44.971

I have a 44.6xx on a dirty lap, but I'm at a loss with this combo and my time shows it. :grumpy:
I may be too tired while attempting laps though. We'll see.
 
MadMax86
I've been actually doing exactly what you were quiding.
I checked my top 2 replays.

Here my turn specific lowest speed peaks

T1 43.425 ----------------- 43.115

1st turn 110 mph --------- 107 mph
2nd turn 37 mph ---------- 37 mph
3rd turn 46 mph ---------- 45 mph
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It is probably mostly the 3rd turn then. In mine I barely have the left 2 tires on the rumble to make it so I can hold more speed. As I said before though I had been going a couple more mph quicker there and was ahead by a couple more car lengths so if you are going slower by a few mph that is probably the cause. It takes a few different strategies there to see what works best.
 
*looks around on the leaderboard*
...
Still no other Div3-ers?? Come on, guys, what's keeping you? :)

Anyway, I had another go and came up with a pretty good lap (imo) which will be difficult to improve upon.

T1: 43.807

Thanks for this great combo, Sjaak. Simply loving every single minute of it :D
 
This combo isn't really my thing, but I'll try to get some laps done.

First although its doubtful on two turn. I'll probably will not submit this lap but I hope to get a faster lap before the deadline :).

T1: 43.812
 
I haven't done one in a while and this one looks fun, so I gave it a try. Took me at least 10 laps to get a clean lap. I didn't realize how hard it would be to un-learn my braking points after 130R or going wide after the hairpin to take the extra part.

T1: 45.912

I think I can get that down to a 44.9XX with another session, which should put me solidly in last place.

I went and got a 44.958... and then forgot to take the extra part. I'll try again tomorrow.
 
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This is a tough one

43.687

130R and Degner are particularly tough to be consistent - microscopic differences in steering angle or brakes seem to be what separates the quick way through and a spin out.
 
It is a tough one indeed. I've got a new T1:

43.836

But this one only counts when it is enough for wheels to touch the outside (inside?) of rumble strips. I have had faster, and clean, T1s (43.6xx), but those times got me so excited that I screwed-up in the next sector. :crazy:

edit> I got this improvement by using TCS & ASM. I guess I'm not good enough to do otherwise. :(

edit 2> new time and now a certain a clean lap (in my humble opinion):

T1: '43.440
 
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Ran another session this morning and got a 43.837 a the split. But it's a pretty solid lap overall, not sure whether I'll improve on it, but I'll give it a shot, probably tomorrow. 👍
 
I rerun the track in hope of improvements in line , but nothing big came up.
I was able to improve my lap time thought.

had a T1 43.1xx and a magical 2nd sector.

Propably won't break to the 42.x at T1 but I'm fine with this one.
If no more improvement for me is availeble I will submit tonight.
 
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