gt5p cars has more horse power than real

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gt5p cars has more horse power than real

for example

the Evolution X GSR has got 317 hp in gt5p

317 when u buy it before buying 276

in real it has only 290 hp

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EU model has 295

UK models has more but the GSR-Premium is Japanese model

i test its 0-60 mph with stop Watch its goes in 3 sec ??!!

the fastes evo the fq400 can reach it in 3.5 and it has 400 hp

the evo x i Heavyer than evo ix but when i test it with my friend it can beat the evo ix is that what we call it Simulation

i hope they fix this in full gt5

sorry for my english
 
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It's meant to have 276bhp, according to carfolio.
And i have just checked and it says 276bhp in GT5p in the dealership and in the garage. But as you say it says 317bhp in quick tune.
 
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SETWAVE
It's meant to have 276bhp, according to carfolio.
And i have just checked and it says 276bhp in GT5p in the dealership and in the garage. But as you say it says 317bhp in quick tune.
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Is there not some law in Japan that states cars can't have any more than 276bhp? So all cars are advertised as that, but in reality they have more. Hence the 276bhp in the dealership, but 317bhp in the quick tune menu.
 
SETWAVE
It's meant to have 276bhp, according to carfolio.
And i have just checked and it says 276bhp in GT5p in the dealership and in the garage. But as you say it says 317bhp in quick tune.
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It says 276bhp, because to my knowledge there was a voluntary limitation of Japanese brands not to launch into a bhp-advertising war, trying to outdo their rivals. So they simply stated 276 bhp as a maximum. How powerful the cars really are/were, you can see in quick tune. If this limitation is still valid, I can't say.
 
It was never a law. It was a gentleman's agreement between the companies and the government to stop cars getting out of hand. Read this: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fv20080413pl.html

TLDR, Japanese car manufacturers voluntarily introduced speed limiters and later HP restrictions at the request of the government to reduce road fatalities etc. In 2004 they called it off for lack of a link between speed and accidents. In the later years of the agreement the threshold of the HP limit was bent by most of the manufacturers in order to semi-compete with the stuff that Europe was producing.
 
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Imari
It was a gentleman's agreement between the companies and the government...
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It's nice to know such a thing still exists. You gotta love the Japanese people, they're just so damn honorable. We should send all of our CEOs and Chairmans and bank presidents to a Japanese business school to finally straighten 'em up.
Man, I hate bailouts (even the auto ones). :grumpy:
-General
 
The R35 GTR for example, is a good example of this. The 2008 model is said to have 478bhp but more often than not the actual output is over 500bhp.
 
ADAE25
gt5p cars has more horse power than real

for example

the Evolution X GSR has got 317 hp in gt5p

in real it has only 290 hp

GSR-Premium

EU model has 295

UK models has more but the GSR-Premium is Japanese model

i test its 0-60 mph with stop Watch its goes in 3 sec ??!!

the fastes evo the fq400 can reach it in 3.5 and it has 400 hp

the evo x i Heavyer than evo ix but when i test it with my friend it can beat the evo ix is that what we call it Simulation

i hope they fix this in full gt5

sorry for my english
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What tyres did you use ? n or s ?
 
Also what RPM did you use before dropping the break pedal? In game you can go as high as you can and still accelerate, in real life something may break, and the cars don't like to be launched hard.
 
The clio v6 is claimed as 250bhp but only the phase 2 car has this- the phase 1 car in gt5p should only have roughly 225-230bhp.
 
Imari
It was never a law. It was a gentleman's agreement between the companies and the government to stop cars getting out of hand.
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Shame they put that in place, the Skyline GT-R should have been allowed to try to kick Ferrari's smug arses.
 
myke6699
The R35 GTR for example, is a good example of this. The 2008 model is said to have 478bhp but more often than not the actual output is over 500bhp.
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But for the GTR there's a point to consider, i've read that his engine is assembled in a laboratory by a nissan engineer, so really exist GTRs with 490 or even 500 hp in factory spec, it's a group of different men assembling the engines, it's natural that different people produce different results. As the lowest output registered is about 480hp, Nissan take this number as the official number for the car....
 
myke6699
The R35 GTR for example, is a good example of this. The 2008 model is said to have 478bhp but more often than not the actual output is over 500bhp.
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The R35 is not an example of the Japanese car manufacturer agreement.
478bhp is not 276bhp.
478bhp is given as a conservative estimate as each engine is hand assembled and there will be variances of output.
 
Yeah R34 GTR and R34 GTR V Spec and V Spec Nur's are all great examples. They are all said to have 276hp but there is obvious increases over the others.
 
General Force
You gotta love the Japanese people, they're just so damn honorable.
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Except near trains. It is quite common to see salarymen push everyone out of the way for no apparent reason. I have even seen women knocked on their ass while one pushes his way on an escalator. They act so important but they are just numbers, most of the time on their way to or from the pub.

/end off topic ranting :P
 
SETWAVE
The R35 is not an example of the Japanese car manufacturer agreement.
478bhp is not 276bhp.
478bhp is given as a conservative estimate as each engine is hand assembled and there will be variances of output.
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I was refering to the original post.
 
thank you all guys

i used the normal s3 in the test


and guys dont Forget about the Acceleration its has more than real
 
General Force
It's nice to know such a thing still exists. You gotta love the Japanese people, they're just so damn honorable. We should send all of our CEOs and Chairmans and bank presidents to a Japanese business school to finally straighten 'em up.
Man, I hate bailouts (even the auto ones). :grumpy:
-General
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In Germany there's something similar also: all car german car manufacturers, except Porsche, had agreed to limit all their cars top speed to 250km/h. The other exception I understand are AMG cars which are factory-set under this agreement but, with written expressed requested by the buyers, withdrawn this electronically limitation.
 
bullie77
In Germany there's something similar also: all car german car manufacturers, except Porsche, had agreed to limit all their cars top speed to 250km/h. The other exception I understand are AMG cars which are factory-set under this agreement but, with written expressed requested by the buyers, withdrawn this electronically limitation.
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what about the Audi R8!? :)
 
rookiebalboa
what about the Audi R8!? :)
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Yes, you're right. That's another exception. I remember reading by the time that Audi considered it as a 'supercar', at the level of Porsche's and so, not under the '250km/h max' agreement.

Other cars, such as BMW's M3, M5, Audi's RS4, RS6, Mercedes SL, CLS, S, so on all are 'factory' electronically limited to 250km/h.
 
In Germany it´s also a manufacturer agreement which limits the cars at 250 km/h.
Of course there are some supercars like R8 or SLR which go faster.
Most normal cars are limited, but there are some tuning factories like AMG, Brabus etc. where you could turn the speedlimiter of for 1000-2000 €.
 
Dan_
But for the GTR there's a point to consider, i've read that his engine is assembled in a laboratory by a nissan engineer, so really exist GTRs with 490 or even 500 hp in factory spec, it's a group of different men assembling the engines, it's natural that different people produce different results. As the lowest output registered is about 480hp, Nissan take this number as the official number for the car....
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Built in a lab means that the tolerances are tighter, not that you get the occassional monster engine as you would in the days of hand-built V8s.

Besides, a little something called the MAP ensures that no matter what you do with the car, what the weather outside is or whether it's Porsche doing the testing... you're not going to see more than 480 bhp out of the motor (highest results I've seen were about 440 on the Dynapack and about 400 on the Mustang... which correlates nicely to 480 bhp, knowing the frictional losses of those two systems).

Still... the GT-R has the mid-range grunt of a 600 hp engine, so quoted maximum power still isn't the best measure of its abilities.
 
Speaking on a somewhat related level, I would really prefer if PD would stop supporting the whole charade of "276 HP." It was annoying back in GT2 days when races had max power limits, and it is annoying now that pretty much everyone knows that PD tends to rate cars to their realistic power (ie. Above 276). They've never bothered to replicate the German speed limit agreement, so why do they bother with the more annoying 276 HP one?
 

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