The "people" who adapted and stepped up everything in GT6 are from GT5. Guys since GT5 easily "set the bar" in a matter of a few months, the same thing took over a year in GT5. What is talked about when it comes to tuning off this site or in a pro room now is something you can take home with. We have become VERY open in the tuning of cars, so there is no stepping up in 6, everything has been a handout.. You should have been around when 5 was a hush hush community. So to say "setting the bar" to us older guys is a slap in the face, because if you're new, there's a good chance you got help from that miss of a guy with his GT5 physics theories.