GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Stringerbell]

It’s certainly tough at the top en? 😂😂

I wish it was the top mate, not even in top 2,000 pace is so rapid this week 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

 

[benjoi84]

Wow that Jag is a much better race car to drive, for me at least, it’s better in the corners and doesn’t feel so sluggish pulling out of them, that’s it, that’s my car for the duration.

Reaching the lofty heights of upper B, just raced a mixed A/B lobby starting 12th and managed to bring it home in 5th 😁

Just caught this Aston Martin on the final straight and took him by a hundredth!

As close as it was, could have been an 8th finish too

Is Sport Mode seriously getting underway at 5am? That's monstrous scheduling! Here's me, avoiding Daily Races anytime after 1am due to potential carnage.

It must be a heady mix of early-risers, insomniacs and stoners. Fair play to you.

Maybe with a steering wheel, but I have trouble doing it with the Jaguar as a controller user and with BOP applied.

Honestly my friend, you need to get rid of this idea that you're somehow handicapped by using a controller. With this mental approach, you're already setting yourself up to underachieve.

Maybe Eau Rouge/Raidillon flat-out in a Gr.3 Jaguar could be your first homework assignment on your journey to getting faster?

 

[RDY_GT]

I've tried using two Thrustmaster wheels in the past, but they both disappointed me, so I returned them.

well I would too, I'm not a fana' that tec.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Got Chat Jippity to knock this up.

With the following caveat from it:

“
Put this together to help explain why the same finishing position can produce very different DR outcomes depending on the lobby. The numbers and results are illustrative rather than calculated using PD’s unpublished formula, but the underlying principle is that your DR movement depends on the relative ratings of the drivers you finish ahead of and behind.
“

 

[benjoi84]

Got Chat Jippity to knock this up.

With the following caveat from it:

“
Put this together to help explain why the same finishing position can produce very different DR outcomes depending on the lobby. The numbers and results are illustrative rather than calculated using PD’s unpublished formula, but the underlying principle is that your DR movement depends on the relative ratings of the drivers you finish ahead of and behind.
“

View attachment 1566917

I really like the graphic, but it just reinforces my disbelief that anyone could find the DR system hard to understand.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I really like the graphic, but it just reinforces my disbelief that anyone could find the DR system hard to understand.

It gets misunderstood so much and I think people switch off at the math side or the concept of ELO’ish systems they get confused and then opinion becomes stated more factually and then Famine does his 1 quarterly “people this is how it bloody works”

Thought a more infographic approach might aid comprehension a bit more

 

[brockie]

Is Sport Mode seriously getting underway at 5am? That's monstrous scheduling! Here's me, avoiding Daily Races anytime after 1am due to potential carnage.

5am is great time to be racing mate, I think there is a lot who do that but I can never be quite sure if it’s someone late night or early morning, being an hour later on the continent 😁

I run early mate before work so an extra half hour get up is fine for me.

 

[mellofello9]

It gets misunderstood so much and I think people switch off at the math side or the concept of ELO’ish systems they get confused and then opinion becomes stated more factually and then Famine does his 1 quarterly “people this is how it bloody works”

Thought a more infographic approach might aid comprehension a bit more

I had one experience, and watched others suffer it as well, that somehow made it all make sense. I won a race and lost DR. That, for me, made it painfully obvious that there's a LOT more going on than simply getting six points for third place, for instance. There is no straight line that says 'finish here, get this many points' and I really think a lot of folks are hoping there is.🤣

Tbh, I think the system is about as fair as it can be. Definitely seems to keep me where I belong in driver rank. 👍

EDIT
Morning racing is some of the best I've done. Eastern Time here in the US and getting runs in between 5 - 9:00 AM is almost magical, lol.

 

[TheNormsk]

I’m retired now and have become lazy. What is this mythical time before 9am?

Seriously though, when I’ve been on now, mid morning (central time) it’s been a lot nicer than when i used to race at 10pm to 1am. It’s a pretty rough crowd late at night.

The morning crowd, i like to think of being more gentlemanly, the newly retired gen-x like me who want to race and drive well. But more importantly, aren’t drunk.

 

[Andyxdr]

Is Sport Mode seriously getting underway at 5am? That's monstrous scheduling! Here's me, avoiding Daily Races anytime after 1am due to potential carnage.

It must be a heady mix of early-risers, insomniacs and stoners. Fair play to you.

Honestly my friend, you need to get rid of this idea that you're somehow handicapped by using a controller. With this mental approach, you're already setting yourself up to underachieve.

Maybe Eau Rouge/Raidillon flat-out in a Gr.3 Jaguar could be your first homework assignment on your journey to getting faster?

Thanks, but why am I having so much trouble getting the same qualifying times as expert players even when I go through the same tracks again and again and again?

 

[benjoi84]

Thanks, but why am I having so much trouble getting the same qualifying times as expert players even when I go through the same tracks again and again and again?

My guy. Are you actually trolling at this point? 🤣

Everyone here is being positive, encouraging you and giving you tips and guidance. They are asking you to be patient and keep practicing, yet within 24 hours you're going "OK, did what you said and it didn't work".

Do you remember the comment about Usain Bolt and Tom Brady?

Why are you comparing yourself to literally THE BEST IN THE WORLD? Come back to earth dude, get your head down and remember it's a game, it's meant to be enjoyed.

I'm not going to bother trying to offer more advice because everything's already been said.

 

[art3mis]

Thanks, but why am I having so much trouble getting the same qualifying times as expert players even when I go through the same tracks again and again and again?

Because you haven't put in enough time. Bruce Lee once said: I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times

My advice: find the car you like the most and go time trial the Nurburgring until you master it. You'll learn everything you need to know about your car.

Then try to go faster. Then do it again.
Then switch cars and do it again.

Then start racing against other people because that's an entirely different skill set than just being fast.

Basically it's a cliche but still true: Git Gud.

 

[AEther]

Thanks, but why am I having so much trouble getting the same qualifying times as expert players even when I go through the same tracks again and again and again?

I can’t say for sure without viewing your technique. But what it always is for me is subtle differences: a little bit late on throttle or brakes, a little too early or late on turn in.

Another thing you could do is race a couple daily races, save the replay regardless of your finish, and watch from the perspective of 1st place. What are they doing that you aren’t? That should offer you hints on where to improve.

I will also echo that to compare yourself to the Michael Jordans of GT7 is being unfairly harsh on yourself. It’s always good to have high goals, but equally important to set attainable ones. Work your way up incrementally and most importantly of all: don’t forget to have fun! I always slip when I am being hard on myself.

 

[Andyxdr]

Sorry if it seems like I'm trolling, but I really have been having that much trouble in Gran Turismo 7 and I keep getting sorted with people who really do feel like the Michael Jordans of the game...

Also, please look at these pictures I took of the game:
It took an insane amount of effort for me to get that qualifying time of 1:49.094 and the game frequently sorts me with people who somehow have better qualifying times I frequently have an insane amount of trouble trying to match, so I frequently get bad starting positions and I'm almost never able to move that far up from where I started, so it's often inevitable for my DR to drop. It also seems like PD can never ever be bothered to even try to make lobbies more balanced, so I'm just put in lobbies where there are frequently huge differences in skill between players... I feel like I should just give up because there's something holding me back and it seems to be permanent...

 

[AEther]

Don’t sleep on the Mégane in corners. I ran a very long competitive stint against a couple racers. We swapped 4-6 several times over the last five laps, mostly clean but not without some shenanigans.

I thought I was done for when I was shoved off in the hairpin on Lap 5. But despite the Renault lacking the speed on the straights, it kept up enough in the turns to allow me one last chance to beat the GTs on the last corner. Never been so excited to take 4th.

 

[LeMansLambo14]

well I would too, I'm not a fana' that tec.

I don't like the Logic that your using for your tec here, pal 🤣

 

[NevilleNobody]

Thanks, but why am I having so much trouble getting the same qualifying times as expert players even when I go through the same tracks again and again and again?

Cos you dont have the talent, youre not good enough. I suspect youre on the younger side, late teens maybe, if so, welcome to the jungle baby. Most men wake up one day and realize they're really nothing special. You'll get used to it.

 

[brockie]

Sorry if it seems like I'm trolling, but I really have been having that much trouble in Gran Turismo 7 and I keep getting sorted with people who really do feel like the Michael Jordans of the game...

Also, please look at these pictures I took of the game:
It took an insane amount of effort for me to get that qualifying time of 1:49.094 and the game frequently sorts me with people who somehow have better qualifying times I frequently have an insane amount of trouble trying to match, so I frequently get bad starting positions and I'm almost never able to move that far up from where I started, so it's often inevitable for my DR to drop. It also seems like PD can never ever be bothered to even try to make lobbies more balanced, so I'm just put in lobbies where there are frequently huge differences in skill between players... I feel like I should just give up because there's something holding me back and it seems to be permanent...

Come on Andy, what’s with the ‘struggling beginner’ routine?

It’s totally fine to be frustrated by how brutal the competition is at your level, or to feel the limitations of using a controller when you're trying to hunt down top 100 leaderboard times. But flooding the daily race thread asking how to "get good" while sharing screenshots of you racing in mixed A/B lobbies just comes across as disingenuous to the people genuinely trying to give you advice. You aren't a novice; you're a highly proficient driver.

 

[Andyxdr]

Come on Andy, what’s with the ‘struggling beginner’ routine?

It’s totally fine to be frustrated by how brutal the competition is at your level, or to feel the limitations of using a controller when you're trying to hunt down top 100 leaderboard times. But flooding the daily race thread asking how to "get good" while sharing screenshots of you racing in mixed A/B lobbies just comes across as disingenuous to the people genuinely trying to give you advice. You aren't a novice; you're a highly proficient driver.

Thanks and sorry. I also really appreciate the advice I'm getting. I just still have a hard time.