GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Andyxdr]

Next time you do a qually lap close to your best save and share it to your showcase then people can "race" you and tell you specifically where you're relatively fast/slow and offer more pin pointed advice.

Thanks and I'm thinking about that.

 

[benjoi84]

Thanks and I'm thinking about that.

Another thing I'll say which is on a tangent but hopefully encouraging for you in some way...

My gallery on GT7 is stuffed full of replays from past daily races over the years. I'm not going to ask you to watch them, but I will say the vast majority don't have me fighting for podiums or wins. Mostly, I've shared races where the driving has been impressively clean, or there's been isolated moments of astute defending or clever tactical moments... From ALL DIFFERENT positions of the grid.

Usually when I watch them back, I end up forgetting that I'm watching P11 fighting with P12, for example.

You know why? Because it's the racing that matters.

A+ isn't the final boss of Gran Turismo, it's just a player filter.

 

[Uday9479]

Next week's dailies (GTstats.live):

 

[Fezzik]

They really like putting these pathetically underpowered Gr4s on high speed tracks

 

[brockie]

Next week's dailies (GTstats.live):

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Thanks mate,

Bit meh to be honest.

F………. Reverse again on LM 🤬

Well, hopefully MR only RBR with the ugly Citroen retired

 

[Lightsider74]

Next week's dailies (GTstats.live):

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Thanks. Nowt there for me. It's ok though I'm happy popping online when there's a combo that interests me instead of it being an obsession.

 

[Shackster]

Is the correct way around LM broken or something? I don’t hate the reverse quite like I did at first but this is getting ridiculous.
I was thinking this morning it’s been a while since we had RBR! 🤣

 

[Fezzik]

Thanks mate,

Bit meh to be honest.

F………. Reverse again on LM 🤬

Well, hopefully MR only RBR with the ugly Citroen retired

I wouldn't mind a FR only GR4 round. Gets rid of the usual meta Hyundai & Citroen. Instead a load of Vantages, Mustangs, Corvettes, Vipers, Supras, etc. Simply lovely.

 

[Lightsider74]

You appear to be Andy on that leaderboard at 1:49.151. You also seem to be B ranked. I actually think that’s a pretty decent time of a B driver.

I hate Fuji so I tend to avoid it. But I had a go to see what I could do (I’m about 1/3rd up DR A).

In three laps with the Megane I got this.
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Ok but not great. Then switched to the meta. The Citroën is harder to drive in VR so I had a bit more trouble. Ended up with
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Better. Got sub 1:49 but really I would not expect to improve much more. I’m usually around 2-3% off the record time which could be 1-2 seconds depending on the track. If I get top 1000 global I’m usually pretty happy.
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In this case, on a track I don’t like, top 3000 is to be expected.

I tried the Mégane this morning. Spent an hour learning as it's new combo for me personally and I'm generally poorer in race cars and ended up with a 1.49.5xx

So a low 49 after 3 laps is excellent imho.

Also tried the Citroen for 10 mins and struggled to match my Mégane lap. Totally different to drive, can be so much more aggressive on corner exit

 

[Stringerbell]

Next week's dailies (GTstats.live):

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Jesus! I actually quite like LM Reverse and RBR but even this is a bit too frequent for me, LM reverse was what 3 weeks ago?

At least Gr3 gives a bit of a challenge but I may well skip this week

 

[Uday9479]

I wouldn't mind a FR only GR4 round. Gets rid of the usual meta Hyundai & Citroen. Instead a load of Vantages, Mustangs, Corvettes, Vipers, Supras, etc. Simply lovely.

We had a FR only Gr.4 Race C in March at St. Croix. The Supra was the meta whereas my favorite Gr.4 car (SLS AMG) was the antimeta. What a thrilling race combo that was.

 

[art3mis]

Thanks and I'm sorry. It's just I really have tried to follow advice from others and keep a positive attitude, but even then, I still have an insanely hard time getting the same qualifying times as expert players...

Because you're not an expert. It is that simple. If you want to be an expert get off the forum and start driving. It is literally the only way.

Nobody improves by kvetching on the internet (unless the skill you're improving is kvetching on the internet). Everyone improves skill by practicing said skill.
Dunno what more advice you're looking for because it's pretty clear from your posting you don't want advice you want a magic button.

Brother there ain't no button.

 

[brockie]

Not a good day I have to say, my 5am race ruined lap 2 by this chap who thought it was ok to turn me around coming out of t1 whilst we were racing for 7th, I was on the outside - yeah nice one really!

Got home at lunch, running late and got self a 7 day ban for a small indiscretion, along the line of [his country] rat! 😞 missed the 1230 race

So some alt account invites have gone out and I’ll be racing the americas for the coming week!

 

[Fezzik]

Don't drink chat & drive.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Also the pad is not the issue, there are a ton of A+ drivers on pad, our very own @GOTMAXPOWER is one of them I believe, plus Cookieguy and Radion on youtube have both reached A+ on pad.

Never mind me getting onto the back row of some A+ grids Calster managed to qualify for the eSport live finals on a pad from the most competitive region!

Controller will always have some disadvantages over the wheels on a game like this and some car/track combinations you'll feel those more than others but pad is close enough to be competitive in the right hands on most of the sport mode races.

Not a good day I have to say, my 5am race ruined lap 2 by this chap who thought it was ok to turn me around coming out of t1 whilst we were racing for 7th, I was on the outside - yeah nice one really!

Got home at lunch, running late and got self a 7 day ban for a small indiscretion, along the line of [his country] rat! 😞 missed the 1230 race

So some alt account invites have gone out and I’ll be racing the americas for the coming week!

Race dirty, chat clean 👌

I found out the hard way on GT Sport

 

[brockie]

Don't drink chat & drive.

Not at 0500 mate! But I can rage at any hour I’m awake 😂

 

[bone_tone]

AM Vantage seems to have made a competitive race appearance at Sardegna now - two races out of three won by Vantages today (the third by a WRX!).

The races today were a bit processional though, performances appear to have evened out - race three for example, there was a 1.2 second difference in QT from P1 to P16. The only way I made up any places was by capitalising on others' mistakes.

Got taken out at turn 1, lap 1 in one race, putting me P16 - managed to claw my way back up to P5 by the end!

 

[newmedia_dev]

Not at 0500 mate!

Yeah I try to stop drinking at about 4:30 so I’m fresh for work

 

[Bondwhar]

Looking forward to jumping back on my dining seat and racing next week as been away sightseeing all over Europe.
Not sure about the races but after 2 weeks away I’ll be happy 😃😎🤠

 

[brockie]

Looking forward to jumping back on my dining seat and racing next week as been away sightseeing all over Europe.
Not sure about the races but after 2 weeks away I’ll be happy 😃😎🤠

Welcome back Mr B

 

[Andyxdr]

Never mind me getting onto the back row of some A+ grids Calster managed to qualify for the eSport live finals on a pad from the most competitive region!

Controller will always have some disadvantages over the wheels on a game like this and some car/track combinations you'll feel those more than others but pad is close enough to be competitive in the right hands on most of the sport mode races.


Race dirty, chat clean 👌

I found out the hard way on GT Sport

I don't know why the controller has to have disadvantages over the wheels. I've suspected that PD made it that way because they want to push steering wheel sales.

 

[benjoi84]

I don't know why the controller has to have disadvantages over the wheels. I've suspected that PD made it that way because they want to push steering wheel sales.

You have that backwards.

From what I'm hearing, the consensus is that this latest iteration is easier on controller users and harder for wheel users. The majority of players (and nearly all potential players) are using controllers, so it just makes business sense.

 

[Andyxdr]

You have that backwards.

Okay, heh. I guess I'm just not a big fan of Group 4 cars.

 

[Gurzu]

I don't know why the controller has to have disadvantages over the wheels. I've suspected that PD made it that way because they want to push steering wheel sales.

Ah. Ok now you're trolling.
Nonsense. It's a "driving simulator". How many actual cars (forget the racing ones) can you drive with a pad? None? Fyi there's an auto-correct factor within the software just to make it easier on pad. Some manœuvres are facilitated on pad while on wheel they aren't. Fi it's way easier to catch a snap oversteer on pad rather than on wheel; everybody knows it. Being fast or slow on a pad is a matter of cognitive ability. If you spent your childhood steering a car on pad, you'll eventually be fast on it (like Calster, Tidgney and others). I personally started steering a car sitting on the legs of one of my adult relatives (father, grand father, oncle, ecc) at 3 years old. Started driving by myself at 9 (Fiat 500 or 126, Piaggio Apecar LS and Escort mk1). I'll always be faster on a wheel and pedals cause my brain was "tuned" that way and has evolved consequently. When GT was released for PS1 I was already in my 20's and it was basically impossible for me to play on pad so I had the Mad Catz wheel.
Finally, remember that being fast on a car, a bike, a pair of ski, a skateboard or a controller is still an innate ability. Some have it; others don't, but can train themselves to at least minimise the gap with those kissed by the speed's goddess. So, how Luke uses to say: "Get out of here and go race!"

 

[Andyxdr]

Ah. Ok now you're trolling.
Nonsense. It's a "driving simulator". How many actual cars (forget the racing ones) can you drive with a pad? None? Fyi there's an auto-correct factor within the software just to make it easier on pad. Some manœuvres are facilitated on pad while on wheel they aren't. Fi it's way easier to catch a snap oversteer on pad rather than on wheel; everybody knows it. Being fast or slow on a pad is a matter of cognitive ability. If you spent your childhood steering a car on pad, you'll eventually be fast on it (like Calster, Tidgney and others). I personally started steering a car sitting on the legs of one of my adult relatives (father, grand father, oncle, ecc) at 3 years old. Started driving by myself at 9 (Fiat 500 or 126, Piaggio Apecar LS and Escort mk1). I'll always be faster on a wheel and pedals cause my brain was "tuned" that way and has evolved consequently. When GT was released for PS1 I was already in my 20's and it was basically impossible for me to play on pad so I had the Mad Catz wheel.
Finally, remember that being fast on a car, a bike, a pair of ski, a skateboard or a controller is still an innate ability. Some have it; others don't, but can train themselves to at least minimise the gap with those kisses by the speed goddess. So, how Luke uses to say: "Get out of here and go race!"

Sorry if it seemed like I was trolling. Please don't automatically assume I am.

 

[Famine]

How many actual cars (forget the racing ones) can you drive with a pad? None?

We Drove a Nissan GT-R With a PlayStation Controller — And It Worked

It's a discussion that comes up time and again. Some people will swear up and down that the only way to get realism from a driving game is to use a steering wheel and pedals. After all, no-one drives a real car with a PlayStation controller, right? Well, not until now. Thanks to a rather special

www.gtplanet.net

 

[newmedia_dev]

Sorry if it seemed like I was trolling. Please don't automatically assume I am.

Im hugely supportive typically and post walls of advice, my videos and experience and honestly I can’t figure out if you are a bot or not.

You have these high aspirations and expectations but quite a limited conversational range.

You are from some perspectives a time sink, because effort goes in to helping you, massaging your self opinion but don’t report back what you have done, what you have learned, what you tried, where the gaps are where do “how do you guys do it”

This is confusing improvement focused behaviour because if that was the aim it would be aggressively trying things suggested.

“I’m just not as fast as those guys” paraphrased.

This turns my support to annoyance. You do you, but bring something to the table, offer something to other people who might appreciate your experience or use you as a reference.

Just do something more than complain or sideways comply.

 

[Andyxdr]

Im hugely supportive typically and post walls of advice, my videos and experience and honestly I can’t figure out if you are a bot or not.

You have these high aspirations and expectations but quite a limited conversational range.

You are from some perspectives a time sink, because effort goes in to helping you, massaging your self opinion but don’t report back what you have done, what you have learned, what you tried, where the gaps are where do “how do you guys do it”

This is confusing improvement focused behaviour because if that was the aim it would be aggressively trying things suggested.

“I’m just not as fast as those guys” paraphrased.

This turns my support to annoyance. You do you, but bring something to the table, offer something to other people who might appreciate your experience or use you as a reference.

Just do something more than complain or sideways comply.

Sorry. I was just troubled and frustrated.

 

[Gurzu]

We Drove a Nissan GT-R With a PlayStation Controller — And It Worked

It's a discussion that comes up time and again. Some people will swear up and down that the only way to get realism from a driving game is to use a steering wheel and pedals. After all, no-one drives a real car with a PlayStation controller, right? Well, not until now. Thanks to a rather special

www.gtplanet.net

A (one outlier) in millions means, statisically, none. Let's be serious.
That was an experiment (not even the 1st made, cause there's other attempts with joystick like the Saab 9000 in the 90's) and nobody can go to a Nissan showroom to buy one.