GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[NevilleNobody]

YOu guys are getting a bit "silly quick" now peeps.

 

[hardvibes]

Tried Race B today and surprisingly I'm quite good. Only Top3 results in my B/S-Lobbies (normally I'm around P8 on other tracks) and not so much carnage then I expected from the others

It's definitely better than last week to gain DR and SR. I might have done 10 races since yesterday and I'm always among the first 6 and can maintain the position. The Aston Martin isn't always easy to handle but it's faster than the Porsche.
No real carnage, people tend to behave compared to the disgraceful Hight Speed Ring race.
I like it so far. I might be a little biased since the track has some sentimental value: in the early 2000s I used to ride my bicycle on it, and sit on the grass by the river (on the left, looking at the city) at the exact same time of the day we see in the game. Plus hearing all the F1 cars of the legendary drivers from my home, 4 km away, was pure joy.

 

[benjoi84]

I can see you lot are busy swinging your sticks around with your incredible quali times (I can't find much more after improving by .086 since yesterday), so instead I'm gonna post a nice bit of racing action. I know this isn't an orthodox overtaking line, but i really had to find a way to benefit from being quicker through the bus-stop, and as a bonus somehow I avoided a penalty. That's a trick I've not been able to replicate, and trust me I've tried



Speaking of avoiding penalties (and things I can't replicate)...

 

[Bondwhar]

Managed to find a little bit of time, better than the half second I am usually away from the top 😁

Edit. And almost had a bunch of DR As 😁

That is fantastic and way way past my ability, well done 👍🏻 🤠

 

[NevilleNobody]

Mixed bag tonight, won a race but should have won 2 more, made silly mistakes in one and was needed wide in the other at t1 and I got the track limit penalty .....I mean really.

Got my QT down to a 14.8, probably my best position (top 500) I can remember having, though i dont do race A often. DR rising rapidly this week.

 

[Stringerbell]

Racecraft question. Which I'm aware is usually situation dependant, but I'll ask for broad strokes?

When racing I'm finding myself taking the optimal line through corners and getting it sent on me and getting hit at the apex, mix of them not braking and me turning in. Now I get it from a tenth or two behind but this is happening a lot to me so with the old adage "if you meet 3 knobheads before midday then you're the knobhead" I assume I am doing something wrong here.

So do you guys take tighter/suboptimal lines if there is someone within 1 second behind just so you are "leaving the door open" and inviting these sends? Just seems like you'll lose the guys in front if you keep doing that?

 

[BuzzdoggZ]

Racecraft question. Which I'm aware is usually situation dependant, but I'll ask for broad strokes?

When racing I'm finding myself taking the optimal line through corners and getting it sent on me and getting hit at the apex, mix of them not braking and me turning in. Now I get it from a tenth or two behind but this is happening a lot to me so with the old adage "if you meet 3 knobheads before midday then you're the knobhead" I assume I am doing something wrong here.

So do you guys take tighter/suboptimal lines if there is someone within 1 second behind just so you are "leaving the door open" and inviting these sends? Just seems like you'll lose the guys in front if you keep doing that?

I have this issue a lot. I do a lot of time time trial and my usual style is to take a very wide line into corners for fast exit. In daily races people just see it as an invite to use your car for wall riding.

When it comes to online races with randoms, Im trying to adjust to never leave an inch on the inside. You will lose some time compared to taking the optimal line, but not as much time as you lose getting shunted wide. If you have a really impatient idiot behind you, sometimes it's just better to let them through and then catch them later when they inevitably bin it.

 

[Stringerbell]

I have this issue a lot. I do a lot of time time trial and my usual style is to take a very wide line into corners for fast exit. In daily races people just see it as an invite to use your car for wall riding.

When it comes to online races with randoms, Im trying to adjust to never leave an inch on the inside. You will lose some time compared to taking the optimal line, but not as much time as you lose getting shunted wide. If you have a really impatient idiot behind you, sometimes it's just better to let them through and then catch them later when they inevitably bin it.

Yeah I'm just trying to work out what to do as I take the same thing as you wide and then early accelerator but at RBR T2 and T3 and Daytona this week everyone is just slinging it in so thinking maybe get tight to the apex and slow out but just feels wrong

 

[bliprunner]

Racecraft question. Which I'm aware is usually situation dependant, but I'll ask for broad strokes?

When racing I'm finding myself taking the optimal line through corners and getting it sent on me and getting hit at the apex, mix of them not braking and me turning in. Now I get it from a tenth or two behind but this is happening a lot to me so with the old adage "if you meet 3 knobheads before midday then you're the knobhead" I assume I am doing something wrong here.

So do you guys take tighter/suboptimal lines if there is someone within 1 second behind just so you are "leaving the door open" and inviting these sends? Just seems like you'll lose the guys in front if you keep doing that?

I make a judgement call usually. If the car behind looks quicker I won't bother defending much. On the last lap maybe but not before then. Get in behind and follow, if you are fast enough to stay with them often they make a mistake and give you back the place.

If I think I'm faster overall, then I make it clear a long way before the corner that the inside is mine by moving across. Let them have a long think about what they want to do around the outside.

 

[Lightsider74]

Racecraft question. Which I'm aware is usually situation dependant, but I'll ask for broad strokes?

When racing I'm finding myself taking the optimal line through corners and getting it sent on me and getting hit at the apex, mix of them not braking and me turning in. Now I get it from a tenth or two behind but this is happening a lot to me so with the old adage "if you meet 3 knobheads before midday then you're the knobhead" I assume I am doing something wrong here.

So do you guys take tighter/suboptimal lines if there is someone within 1 second behind just so you are "leaving the door open" and inviting these sends? Just seems like you'll lose the guys in front if you keep doing that?

So glad you brought this up. I was going to ask the same question. Happens to me a lot!

I just assumed I race too passively.

Another race craft question is: when defending is it fair game to place your car in the most awkward position possible? (I'm not taking about weaving)

 

[bliprunner]

So glad you brought this up. I was going to ask the same question. Happens to me a lot!

I just assumed I race too passively.

Another race craft question is: when defending is it fair game to place your car in the most awkward position possible? (I'm not taking about weaving)

I think it's 100% fine to take whatever line you choose, I just try and make it clear nice and early.

Maybe you defend for a couple of turns, the car behind is caught by another driver, then you put the hammer down and try and get away while they are busy defending.

 

[Metalgear9493]

Current P1 for Daily A (in 3 view perspectives) 👍

 

[NevilleNobody]

So glad you brought this up. I was going to ask the same question. Happens to me a lot!

I just assumed I race too passively.

Another race craft question is: when defending is it fair game to place your car in the most awkward position possible? (I'm not taking about weaving)

Just pick a line. Defending is a legitimate and wholly allowed part of racing but you must pick a line, no moving in the braking zone. If you take the inside you need to make the apex and leave a car width on the outside.

On the broader topic raised earlier, I hate the dive up the inside from half a second back. Yes there is space there but by the time you get your car there I will have turned in. Yes I could take a defensive line but that just slows us both down, get a run on me, establish some overlap, and pass me cleanly.

 

[Stringerbell]

On the broader topic raised earlier, I hate the dive up the inside from half a second back. Yes there is space there but by the time you get your car there I will have turned in. Yes I could take a defensive line but that just slows us both down, get a run on me, establish some overlap, and pass me cleanly.

Ah you speak of a racing Utopia with no dive bombs or punts and racing hard tyres are banished

 

[bliprunner]

If the penalty system worked then people would think twice.

Although it's nice when you see it coming, step aside and...

 

[art3mis]

Racecraft question. Which I'm aware is usually situation dependant, but I'll ask for broad strokes?

When racing I'm finding myself taking the optimal line through corners and getting it sent on me and getting hit at the apex, mix of them not braking and me turning in. Now I get it from a tenth or two behind but this is happening a lot to me so with the old adage "if you meet 3 knobheads before midday then you're the knobhead" I assume I am doing something wrong here.

So do you guys take tighter/suboptimal lines if there is someone within 1 second behind just so you are "leaving the door open" and inviting these sends? Just seems like you'll lose the guys in front if you keep doing that?

I take the normal racing line. If I get hit from a divebomb that should never be launched I hit them back as hard as I possibly can. I'll ruin both our races idc.

 

[NevilleNobody]

One other thing not to do, if you do pass me fair and square up the inside, you need to damn well stay there if we are close to the braking zone. These muppets that make a pass then suddenly take the racing line RIGHT as we are jumping on the anchors, like mate, what are you doing?

This happens quite a bit at Turn 4 at RBR, I will all but yield the inside after a bad exit. Bucko takes the inside pass then on a downhill braking zone suddenly jinks left to take the racing line, basically his rear bumper MMs from my front bumper .... like mate, come on.

 

[Gurzu]

Looks like the best party is race A this week. So I'll forget CGV and focus on WG from Friday evening on. '13.9 is my target for this event; crossing fingers.
On the racecraft topic, after almost 2 years I started to develop a sort of sixth sense on divebomers. Since most of the times they're not able to "make the apex" and rather overshoot the corners, I usually go for the classic switcheroo. If I'm being punted out, I'm now immune to rage or similar unless the driver reiterate the same in the following races. Normally at the third time that I got "bullied" from the same driver, I park at the apex and wait for him to basically pitmanouver himself against me. Always giving my best greetings and thanks to those individuals.
Btw I don't defend too much. I rather let the clumsy driver go and follow to get back the position when possible.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Btw I don't defend too much. I rather let the clumsy driver go and follow to get back the position when possible.

I agree with this. I tend to think more in terms of total race time rather than positions — at least until the closing laps.

In my lobbies there isn’t actually that much clean movement through the field, so most position fights just introduce risk: compromised braking, dirty air mistakes, or penalties.

A lot of overtakes aren’t really “gains” — they’re just short-term swaps that slow both drivers down.

So unless it’s low-risk or genuinely on, I’d rather stay in rhythm and let the race come back to me. More often than not it does.

(Or I get impatient and bin it trying to prove myself wrong 😅)

 

[art3mis]

One other thing not to do, if you do pass me fair and square up the inside, you need to damn well stay there if we are close to the braking zone. These muppets that make a pass then suddenly take the racing line RIGHT as we are jumping on the anchors, like mate, what are you doing?

This happens quite a bit at Turn 4 at RBR, I will all but yield the inside after a bad exit. Bucko takes the inside pass then on a downhill braking zone suddenly jinks left to take the racing line, basically his rear bumper MMs from my front bumper .... like mate, come on.

I packed a guy into a guy headed into the West Horseshoe at Daytona last night. First guy in front crossed from inside to outside and then hammered the brakes. Guy following him was planning on trying to go around the outside and he slams his brakes and jukes to avoid. I am still on throttle at this point and would have had enough braking room if the first driver was predictable. Instead I plow into the guy in front of me who's braking and moving to avoid the first guy, send him into the wall, and get a 4 second penalty for my actions.

Yes I could have been even slower and not been trying to actually race the cars around me but that's literally the only thing I could have done.

 

[brockie]

I started using a ghost to get a run on this time, there is genuinely a better time for me and somehow I’m going to find it 😁

I was so close to being a tenth under my current QT but it just fell away in the last few corners, attached is my laps were it was nearly on! Super close but we keep going.

@benjoi84 that’s a fantastic overtake and I’m seeing some racing like this at the moment, I reckon a brief trip back to DR A is on the cards, weekend shaping up to be a 50s F1 weekend 😁

@Stringerbell yeah to be honest you can’t win mate, if you make your one move to defend, you’re out of position and you lose time, if you stay where you are, they are up the inside, stay passive and usually the cars around you follow suit

 

[williams_v_r]

Hi people
I've been trying make an under 1:38 at CGV but I can't
Almost with Genesis but oversteering kills me
My best
1:38.409