GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Famine]

Let's be serious.

Sorry, I forgot this is serious business.

Or a little levity from time to time wouldn't hurt. The GT-R may not (and definitely wasn't) have been the first car you could drive with a game controller, but it was the first one I've ever driven from the passenger seat of an entirely different car. I even backed it into a "garage" (made of cones) first time, to great surprise from the guys there.

It's definitely a car you could, at the time, have driven with a pad. Also I like bringing it up from time to time, just to remind people of the cool **** we've been up to over the years.

Anyway, back to the seriousness, I guess.

Incidentally, there were ~100m cars sold in 2025. 49 of them were Ariels (Atoms and Nomads; can't say how many of each but I have been told the approximate proportions of the build slots).

By the argument that anything that can be expressed as an integer per million is statistically none, that means the Ariel Atom - at no better than one in two million (or ~0.00005% of the new car parc) - doesn't exist. Which is odd as I've also sat in three of them.


Okay, now back to the seriousness, I guess.

 

[Andyxdr]

That’s fine, which advice have you tried? Doesn’t matter if it worked for you but what have you tried?

Now if you are struggling to share replays I can google that for you, no judgement just trying to help you

Thanks and some people recommended braking earlier and I tried doing that and it helped some, but even when I try that and racing against my ghost, it's still often hard for me to get a qualifying time that's less than a few seconds slower than expert players.

 

[benjoi84]

That’s fine, which advice have you tried? Doesn’t matter if it worked for you but what have you tried?

Now if you are struggling to share replays I can google that for you, no judgement just trying to help you

@Andyxdr to add to this comment, I would seriously recommend you post some screen recordings of your gameplay so that people can specifically advise you.

Thanks and some people recommended braking earlier and I tried doing that and it helped some, but even when I try that and racing against my ghost, it's still often hard for me to get a qualifying time that's less than a few seconds slower than expert players.

Edit: additionally, I wanted to say after you posted your race screen the other day, if you're qualifying 3 seconds off the top time that's pretty not-bad.

It was always my benchmark, and I haven't really improved that much in many, many races and time trials.

 

[Andyxdr]

@Andyxdr to add to this comment, I would seriously recommend you post some screen recordings of your gameplay so that people can specifically advise you.

Alright. I'll get to that.

 

[Famine]

it's still often hard for me to get a qualifying time that's less than a few seconds slower than expert players.

Same. That just be how things do.

 

[art3mis]

A (one outlier) in millions means, statisically, none. Let's be serious.
That was an experiment (not even the 1st made, cause there's other attempts with joystick like the Saab 9000 in the 90's) and nobody can go to a Nissan showroom to buy one.

Not a pad per se but they did modify Robert Kubicas cars to have hand controls for the pedals after his crash. So yeah you can for sure mimic pedal controls with triggers. Steering is still with a wheel tho so definitely the hard part is still a wheel

 

[SteveAmHydro]

The Citroen is so horrible in VR and makes me feel like I've got a roll bar going through my head

 

[AEther]

The Citroen is so horrible in VR and makes me feel like I've got a roll bar going through my head

I drive almost exclusively in cockpit mode. The Citroën is one of the very few that tempted me to switch to a different mode. It’s more like sitting in a helmet than a car.

Only about 15% of the screen is the actual road ahead.

 

[Stringerbell]

Thanks and some people recommended braking earlier and I tried doing that and it helped some, but even when I try that and racing against my ghost, it's still often hard for me to get a qualifying time that's less than a few seconds slower than expert players.

If you genuinely want to improve your consistency and pace then it is going to take hours and hours of refinement, analysis and effort, there is not going to be a quick fix on here of brake earlier, coast a bit if you have genuinely reached a skill ceiling which it sounds like you have.

Below is exactly what I did when I was frustrated with dropping in and out of A and struggling to get top 1,000 times. Now I am mid A hovering round 40k DR with regular times in the top 800 and a few top 500's purely off the back of putting this effort in. I am a very middle of the road A driver, I struggle to win any races in A.

This is your most sure fire way of improving but it's a lot of effort and time, but judging by how upset and frustrated you are with being off the pace I'm sure you will be willing to put this in.

1. Get the braking reference's and apex speeds from a guide or watch a replay of the fastest times and note them down. Brake point, apex speed and acceleration markers are your 3 things to note.

2. Put 30-40 laps into qualifying and set your best time.

3. Go into your replay and check every corner for your exact braking point and apex speed, each corner that you have a discrepancy note it down and work on it for another 20-30 laps to lower your time.

4. Check the new time replay for braking point and apex speed and rinse and repeat this until you are happy with your results

If you hit the same braking point and apex speed as the world number 1 then your time will be very close, if you are a few seconds off those times, then 100% each corner your apex speed will be at least 5MPH slower on each corner which is costing you multiple tenths mid corner and on corner exit.


To show this is not flakey advice, you can see below where I put 500 qualifying laps in a week into laguna seca and 116 uninterrupted laps i one stint trying to improve pace and consistency. I raced twice this week.

Was it fun? NO!
Was it incredibly frustrating? YES
Did it push me through a ceiling? YES

Just to note, this took about 4-6 weeks of doing the same process each week until the level I reached became my new baseline, I'm now happy with where I am and don't have the urge to try and push to A+ or any further up so it takes me 20 odd laps to find my pace and race, if I want to push on I will do the same process.

I’ve heard god loves a trier 😂😂 stuck 116 laps in a row into Laguna Seca this evening in search of that ever elusive 21 and fell just under a tenth short!!!

Reckon I’ve stuck the thick of end 500 laps into Laguna this week so I think I can conclude that failing to get a 21 is deffo a lack of talent and not a lack of effort 😂🤦‍♂️

Frustrating as my optimal was a 21.7xx


You can check on the digit site mate under your profile and then go to events and it will show your quali time. Mine was 1.47.559. Hoping with the improvements I’ve made last few months I can shave that down into the 46’s. Hopefully without putting 800 laps into it!!!

Congrats mate!!! Give Laguna a few more cracks and hopefully it comes off!!

Is dragon trail a strong track for you? Hopefully you’ll pick up a buffer with good results this weekend!

The top or bottom of a DR rank is always the worst! The bottom is stressful you’ll drop out and the top is frustrating when you don’t get the result to get promoted! You’re right that the middle is the best place!!

Look forward to having you back on track mate 💪💪💪

 

[Andyxdr]

If you genuinely want to improve your consistency and pace then it is going to take hours and hours of refinement, analysis and effort, there is not going to be a quick fix on here of brake earlier, coast a bit if you have genuinely reached a skill ceiling which it sounds like you have.

Below is exactly what I did when I was frustrated with dropping in and out of A and struggling to get top 1,000 times. Now I am mid A hovering round 40k DR with regular times in the top 800 and a few top 500's purely off the back of putting this effort in. I am a very middle of the road A driver, I struggle to win any races in A.

This is your most sure fire way of improving but it's a lot of effort and time, but judging by how upset and frustrated you are with being off the pace I'm sure you will be willing to put this in.

1. Get the braking reference's and apex speeds from a guide or watch a replay of the fastest times and note them down. Brake point, apex speed and acceleration markers are your 3 things to note.

2. Put 30-40 laps into qualifying and set your best time.

3. Go into your replay and check every corner for your exact braking point and apex speed, each corner that you have a discrepancy note it down and work on it for another 20-30 laps to lower your time.

4. Check the new time replay for braking point and apex speed and rinse and repeat this until you are happy with your results

If you hit the same braking point and apex speed as the world number 1 then your time will be very close, if you are a few seconds off those times, then 100% each corner your apex speed will be at least 5MPH slower on each corner which is costing you multiple tenths mid corner and on corner exit.


To show this is not flakey advice, you can see below where I put 500 qualifying laps in a week into laguna seca and 116 uninterrupted laps i one stint trying to improve pace and consistency. I raced twice this week.

Was it fun? NO!
Was it incredibly frustrating? YES
Did it push me through a ceiling? YES

Thanks. I'll think about it.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I don't know why the controller has to have disadvantages over the wheels. I've suspected that PD made it that way because they want to push steering wheel sales.

I think they've done it for accessibility so it works out the box for casual players instead of having to have a load of sliders like the PC sims, or Motorfest.

Okay, heh. I guess I'm just not a big fan of Group 4 cars.

Gr4 should be one of the more competitive classes on controller but it's hard to like those cars because they're so slow and dull to drive.

The current time trial with the LMDh at Road Atlanta will expose the pad issues more, when you have a lot of downforce the steering is too slow to take advantage of it and Road Atlanta is a kerb bouncing track which the steering doesn't respond well to.

 

[Andyxdr]

I drive almost exclusively in cockpit mode. The Citroën is one of the very few that tempted me to switch to a different mode. It’s more like sitting in a helmet than a car.

Only about 15% of the screen is the actual road ahead.

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I understand. I've seen worse, though, like first person view in the Arena ZR380s or the Future Shock Impaler with heavy armor applied in Grand Theft Auto Online.

 

[Gurzu]

Sorry, I forgot this is serious business.

Or a little levity from time to time wouldn't hurt. The GT-R may not (and definitely wasn't) have been the first car you could drive with a game controller, but it was the first one I've ever driven from the passenger seat of an entirely different car. I even backed it into a "garage" (made of cones) first time, to great surprise from the guys there.

It's definitely a car you could, at the time, have driven with a pad. Also I like bringing it up from time to time, just to remind people of the cool **** we've been up to over the years.

Anyway, back to the seriousness, I guess.

Incidentally, there were ~100m cars sold in 2025. 49 of them were Ariels (Atoms and Nomads; can't say how many of each but I have been told the approximate proportions of the build slots).

By the argument that anything that can be expressed as an integer per million is statistically none, that means the Ariel Atom - at no better than one in two million (or ~0.00005% of the new car parc) - doesn't exist. Which is odd as I've also sat in three of them.


Okay, now back to the seriousness, I guess.

Ok, you got me there. I was too serious. 🤣
I too sat in one of them, bur I'd love to seat once in a Bac mono (wich is even less common) btw.
Let's say "statistically negligible"; a more correct mathematical way to say "insignificant", which was actually my point.
The Saab 9000 "Prometheus" was tested also by Clarkson in Top Gear and was a real attempt to remove the wheel for safety reasons. So it wasn't just an exercise to have fun, but an actual pan-european project. The same attempt was made in bike market by Suzuki with the "Falcorustyco" in the 80's just before the "Nuda"; ultimately the best looking bike of all times (imho).

 

[AEther]

Not sure if this was posted anywhere but i came across this, this evening.



The jag looks interesting but his driving skill is insane.

Reupping this post after I tried the DBR9 yesterday in qualifying. What a masterpiece of a race. I can’t fathom how he mastered this machine so well. It is certainly a step above on speed but it turns like a barge.