Have the media gone crazy over GT5 vs. NFS: Hot Pursuit?

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I am sick and tired of browsing the web for GT5 stuff and then coming across wannabe journalists. I mean, really - GT5 compared to NFS: Hot Pursuit? :grumpy:

Then they go on to say that NFS: Hot Pursuit is more "fun" and GT5 lacks "fun". Maybe if you don't have a clue about cars/motorsport, or just like driving a Corsa at 220mph then this may be the case. As for me, if you can hit a NOS button at 50mph and end up at 300mph, this is not a game for me.

After all NFS is an arcade game; GT5 is a simulation - how can you compare the two completley oppsite audiences and genres?

Basically what I'm getting at is the only "comparison" I can make out of these silly reviews is GT5 splits the "boys" from the "men". End of discussion - no other comparison can be made here 👍
 
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I agree it really should not be compared at all. But I think the thing is it will be because they are both racing games even though they are different play styles
 
the only thing they have in common is the fact that there are cars in both games.. I have both of them... yes NFS is a hell of a lot of fun, it is arcade fun.. not even close to real. I love my realistic GT :D
 
I have it, the driving reminds me of a cart racer, But I guess the "fun factor" is more important than realistic driving....
 
Well where the comparison goes totally of the rails, is if your a great driver then sims or semi sims are a ton of fun. But if you not a great driver than not so much.

WHere as any arcade racer can be fun and really should be fun it takes no amount of super skill or patience with an arcade racer you can just hop on it and be good enuf in no time flat.

So saying one of more fun that the other is a matter of perspective.
 
Mainstream is Casual. Casuals follow the social fads. hardcore racing is not a fad, shoot your best friend who down the street in the middle of his avatar's eyes is the bandwagon fad these days.

NFS will always get the popular vote from the casuals because it is exaggerated fun.
 
Hot pursuit is an instant fix for any casual gamer. You can compare any two games you want, you just say HP has this and this and GT5 plays like this and has these extra features.

As a salesman or a journalist, you must be able to tell differences between certain games to a wide, casual audience. Why do you consider this a crazy thing?
 
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I have it, the driving reminds me of a cart racer, But I guess the "fun factor" is more important than realistic driving....
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Well to be fair, "Fun factor" is usually the ultimate section of any review for a game... I mean it is a game...

You can say "it's a sim it says so right on the package" but obviously it's not... so much of it is obviously a game with the progression and unlocking systems. A game by any other name, is still a game :)
 
Well, it's different kind of fun. You don't have to drive hours in endurance to levelup and earn money, just roll in online MP and choose your favorite ride then quick match, very simple.

I have to say either busting racers and escaping from cops are very enjoyable, especially fun to see cars get knock out from flying, rolling, disintegrating, etc.

Actually, next year's Shift 2 could be a serious rival if they have corrected all the mistakes and adjusted the direction of the game.
 
Someone link some of these GT5 vs. Hot Pursuit articles on gaming blogs. I haven't seen any yet.
 
The thing that bothers me the most, is they compare them like they are in the same league, one is a simulator that's "track" based, the other one is an arcade racer where you can obviously defy the physical limit in cars.

The new ad said "No racing game compares" define racing, that could be 100 different things, Toon GP? ModNation? Gran Turismo? RC Car racing? the list could go on and on of "types" the fact they say GT is bland bothers me, yes of course real life doesn't have MASSIVE blur to everything around you. This is what we call an "arcade racer" You know this when you're doing 230mph in a car that can physically only hit 150 due to its aerodynamic capabilities/limitations. Real life just doesn't blur like that! It may be the best (to a few) arcade racers out there, even that has its opinions (like everyone should) but they aren't even in the same category to compare, ugh I hate how they compare them... NFS hot pursuit *car skidding around corners at 200mph chasing another car* , *ends with enormous flip while comparing the dullness of GT5* if you want to compare effects? yes its dull, because GT5 doesn't simulate "un realistic effects".
 
Well being a longtime fan of the NFS series as well as GT(my actual user name was from the first NFS, your name used to go on the license plate)

I would never even put the 2 games in the same category other than the fact they both have cars.

I tried the new Hot Pursuit and it has to be the lowest point in NFS history as sad as that is it is even worse than Undercover... It is just a reskinned Burnout Paradise with "real" cars instead of cartoon ones.

I will say the NFS series has been very hit and miss for me from Underground on(it's where they lost their way IMO) I thought Most Wanted was refreshing, Pro Street had and STILL has THEE best implementation of the clutch in ANY racing game to date. Shift while I enjoyed playing an NFS on a "familiar" engine again(basically a tweaked Gmotor engine) they took it a little too far with the over the top effects.

The GT Series at least has always stuck to a formula and it has always been appealing to me in every one. While GT5 could have been more innovative this time around it is still a great formula that despite the fact that it may even be dated it still does not deserve to even be put in the same category as any NFS in the last 5 years EVER!
 
Chill mate. Lots of people hate sim based games. They find them boring and stale. I've got a guilty pleasure. It's called Mario kart wii. Love that game. If people want to compare apples and oranges, so be it.
 
I don't have Hot Pursuit at the moment, but I do have Burnout Paradise (same engine, same dev), and here are my thoughts on GT vs BP.

Burnout Paradise is absolutely fantastic. It's an arcade racer with great damage, a great sense of speed, an amazingly huge amount of things to do, and massive replay value. Also, its online mode is absolutely fabulous. I've played this game for 24 hours straight at one point, took me 150 hours to get to 100%, and to this day I've played it for 1500 hours total and go back to it still every here and there, almost three years after its release. The servers are still bursting with activity!

There was also free DLC. It started with just a daytime city etc, but for free they added bikes, nighttime, etc. For just a few extra bucks here and there a whole extra part of the city opened up when it was finished, etc.

Online is seamless. You're wherever you are in the world, press the right arrow twice and you're in a room doing exactly what you were doing before, but with 7 other people. From there, you can race, do challenges with the other players, just hang out and chat, etc. It is to this day in my opinion the best online mode and integration in a game, ever.

The physics are perfect for an arcade racer, the camera perfect, the variety of the cars perfect, with special cars being given out for various trophies, etc. The game was just amazing.

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GT is also absolutely fantastic. It's a simulation racer with mediocre damage, a mediocre sense of speed (usually), an unusually small (for GT) amount of things to do, and OK replay value (at least for me, as I'm in the middle of a "grinding" stage).

There is also free DLC, but to this point it's all been extremely minor. I would be delighted if the DLC were free but I'm not sure that's going to happen.

Online is anything but seamless. Exit, go to a menu, bringing you to another menu, bringing you to a list of rooms, bringing you to a loading screen, bringing you to a menu, which finally brings you to the room.

The physics are also very, very good, even for a sim racer, particularly on a console. The camera views are OK, but there's room for improvement. At this point, it's a mostly "incomplete" game.

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So at this point things are looking good for Burnout, and rather dismal for GT5, but that's simply not true. Burnout had an incredible amount of high points, and GT5 has an incredible amount of low points. But it also has a distinctive spirit about it, and it's a totally different game. It's not the game aspect that makes it so good, it's just the so-called "X-Factor" of it, which Burnout lacks, to an extent.

Burnout Paradise is #1 of the games that I own. And so is GT5.
 
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Uh, what about NFS lol. ^
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First sentence. Same game engine, same developer... but either way, it isn't the specific game that matters, just the genre of arcade vs sim. Can't be compared is my point, and i was bored, so i drew it out :P
 
It's a different game directed at a different group of driving game players. I love games like Forza, GT5 and F1 2010 (even though most say it's un-realistic, it's realistic) because they are realistic. My best mate on the other hand preffers games like NFS and GRID. It all comes down to what you like.
 
Ladies and gentlemen, please be very careful about what you post here. GT vs. Forza threads have, attracted a lot of trouble in the past, the kind of trouble that ends with mass bans for the flamewars that have started. I have no issues with this thread right now, but a moderator has already gone through and cleaned some of it up. If this thread so much as looks like it is heading for trouble, the moderators will not heasitate to derail it. So tread lightly, please.
 
Spagetti69
Chill mate. Lots of people hate sim based games. They find them boring and stale. I've got a guilty pleasure. It's called Mario kart wii. Love that game. If people want to compare apples and oranges, so be it.
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Ya bro, everything has its place. Most of my friends hate GT, cuz they suck at it, or don't find it enough 'instant flash fun' to spend time getting to know it or getting better.

GT was never a party game its a freaking hermit game, and we love it for that, but despite its aesthetic appeal its functionally alienating for the unfamiliar.

Im sure Hot Pursuit as a driving\racing game, is probably ranked very low compared to GT as far as physics and 'realism' roster etc , but fun factor is what you look for in a party game, something alot of people regardless of experience can have FUN with.
 
Also, please note that just because a journalist does not agree with you, it does not mean they are incompetent. They're entitled to their own opinion, just as you are to yours. Please do not present opinion as fact.
 
i played nfs:HS and within hours i returned it, it really wasn't my thing

I dont see how any1 can possibly compare the 2 games tho...

the major issues for me were the repetitive highways, auto drifting, no manual tranny,no wheel support and the overall feel of handling was... well it was so far from reality i had a very hard time getting a gasp of things... that being said i would rather simulation over arcade any day

trying to be as unbiased as i can and for the most part im a fan on the NFS series but i cant help but think NFS:HP was rushed for money from day 1 and sadly the game felt extremely empty

whereas gt5 the majority of the game feels like its been worked on for years.. however menu's and other things feel they have been rushed but for the most part the game feels "full"

at the end of the day i think your in denial if you truly believe NFS:HS is the better game
even my arcade crazy friends can admit gt5 is a better game


its kinda sad how certain:rolleyes: games get a automatic high score based off the brand name
 
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Common. Game journalist know nothing about games, and even less - about racing games.

What are you talking about, when eurogamer can't even find options in game menu and IGN reviewer talking about how he is hardcore racing simulator fanatic and you can see at the same time on screen that every single assist in NFS Shift is on?

I was watching closely all prerealese Forza 3 presentations and all I saw was another lame professional game critic desperately trying to stay on track with all assists on and AI on medium. I've got absolutely zero of any useful information from all this professional previews (except that Dirt 2 demo is much more cool - gamersyde of course).

As for me I don't pay attention game scores at all, cause most of reviews usually fail to mention anything about gameplay at all. You'll get 1/3 about story, 1/3 about graphics, 1/3 about online, but usually nothing about game itself. Example: almost 100% of enemies in COD 4 are endless, which makes this game totally different from any other shooter in gameplay. Try to find a single review which mentioned this fact.
 
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Don't worry about reviews. I find most large media outlets, and even the machinima youtube channels are full of rubbish. Just get what you want out of the games you want.

Key differences between the two games:

NFS Hot Pursuit is probably a fun game but just like all games like that, in 2 - 3 years time you won't remeber anything about it. Where as great games that stand out, such as Granturismo will stay with you as great memories forever.

See also : Metal Gear Solid 4 or Uncharted as apposed to, one of those numberless COD games or any of the Need for Speed games made in the past 3 years.
 
Its the cool thing to do to hate on GT5, especially if your an xbox lemming, ignore it. Faults and all (There is a lot), no better driving on console then this.
 
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