Have you ever lost form?

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I am genuinely rubbish at Forza this past few days.
I really can't emphasise that enough; I'm not a driver, I'm an absolute load of old nonsense.

Every single car; stock, tuned and/or upgraded all feel totally unbalanced to me. Loads of understeer and masses of oversteer, brakes don't seem to work at all, car spins and slides all over the place even if I switch on TCS or ASM (which I'm loathe to do, but have been reduced to doing so lately).
I'm even struggling to win races against the AI set to 'hard' (I've been racing them, and winning, on Professional Difficulty up until now).
I was always able to get myself into the top 1 or 2% of leaderboards with a bit of dedication, but this past few days (I'm not joking) I've been as low as "the top 33%".... :guilty:

What the Hell is going on? :mad:

I've considered starting from scratch; I have various cars from all different classes. so I was thinking of taking a class F car onto the first track in the game (hot lapping), and then driving until I've nailed the course, then move on to the next course, and the next, and so on until I've set a time on every single track with that class.
Then go on to class E, and do the same again.
Then class D, then class C etc etc and so on and so forth....

You think that might work? Or should I just follow through with the plan I had earlier and smash my XBOX to little bits in a fit of lunatic rage?
It might beat me at Forza, but I can assure you it will be no match for me at Kick-Boxing.
 
I wonder if you are starting to "Overthink" your driving habits while you are racing. One thing I would suggest is to relax while you play. Don't worry about your split times, don't fuss about getting to first place, just drive. Put on some music if it would help. The goal is to to first find your flow again before you worry about precision.
 
LMAO @ OP. Not lol at you but I went through the EXACT same thing in Forza 3. My skills were getting better and better and I was getting faster and then hit like a plateau with a just incremental increases, no problem I thought, just fine tuning myself. Then suddenly I couldn't drive to save my life. I felt like I just lost everything. Felt like I couldn't do squat, like I barely knew what the steering wheel's main function was. I felt the same thing. I could probably find the posts for you.

Been there guy but it goes away after while.
 
I've improved quite a bit over the past few years and past few Forzas and GT5, but I'm still not happy with my track performance. World Tour puts the AI on Professional difficulty for me (I know because I've played against the AI on various levels from the Event List) and though sometimes I'll hop into a race and win it I'll often find myself floundering in third and restarting over and over several times until I get the result I want (first). I run no driver aids, which has been a problem for me once I've got into the high car classes, as I'll still occasionally step the back out by giving it 1% too much throttle or lock the brakes up by breathing on the pedal 1% harder than I should have, and I know the AI runs driver aids so they don't have this trouble. Once I make a mistake, I overcompensate in frustration. Once I screw up I have to push myself harder in a desperate attempt to gain ground on the leaders, and I end up pushing too hard and consequently doing even worse.

I gave myself a verbal thrashing earlier and stormed away in anger. Being decent isn't good enough for me and I feel that I should be able to hop into anything without ABS, TCS, or whatever and control it just fine and it pisses me off if I hop into a V8 Supercar and spin the back tires or if I'm approaching Maggotts at Silverstone in a Koenigseggisseggggnignigsegigisegggg and lock up my brakes. It's just not good enough.
 
Always drive bad when I'm in a bad mood, overshoot corners etc.
Sometime I just go play a different game mode for a bit, like autovista or even do a bit of drifting.
Helped me to drift this one particular car that was annoying me, just held it on the limiter and took my aggression out on it
 
I just got the fanatec wheel, now I suck at drifting and have found myself going back to the controller for that. :(
 
It happened to me yesterday. I mean, if you feel good, you will drive good. If you feel tired then you will drive like a tired man...

But strangely though, I could sometimes get back on the right mood if I managed to drive it back properly again so yes I have lost my form but it will be back to normal again once you have found the composure 👍
 
Well, I never felt such a drastic drop in skill as some of you guys mentioned. However, when I don't play the game for a few days, I tend to get a bit rusty. I'm starting to misjudge braking distances, get worrse at throttle control, lock the brakes up accidently and such. Luckily, it onlly takes a day or two to get it all back, usually.

However, if I haven't played in a really long time, it feels like I'm starting over entirely. There's always a bit of skill left to fall back on. Might be a bit of talent, I don't know. When I'm playing the game for a few days again, I maanage to sneak in some top 1% times pretty easily. If I don't play it for a week, top 5% is the best I can manage on the same track and the same car. Two weeks, and I'm likely down to top 10%. Give it a month and I'll hardly be able to keep a D-Class car on the tarmac.

Happens to me right now. I don't have as much time for video games as I used to. And the bit that's left is almost entirely taken up by Dark Souls... So, fiting Forza up now results in a desaster right now :lol:
 
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I just got the fanatec wheel, now I suck at drifting and have found myself going back to the controller for that. :(
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Give it some time...! You'll get better and enjoy drifting 100x times more than with a shoddy controller :)

From everything what I've experienced: Don't try, just drive. At least this way I get so much better results! Good example was Mugello Autocross last night. I had spent 2-3 hours before to reach 4th place overall. Then after a days break I just thought to give it a try. With loose wrists and no tension, stress whatsoever I reached 3rd place in under 5 minutes. Just drove, didn't push it.

I think it's much more a psychological problem than lack of skill or ability. Real race drivers must face this kind of issues too...? :confused:
 
Against my own instincts, I decided to bite the bullet and lower the difficulty level of the game; I set the steering to "normal" (I've always had it on Simulation even with the controller).
I really had no choice as I couldn't finish the first lap of any race let alone the race in it's entirety, and it was driving me absolutely mental with rage.
It certainly feels a lot better now and I've calmed down quite a bit.
I'll stick with it set on normal until it starts to feel too easy, then I'll put it back up to simulation. I certainly don't think there's any shame in it.
 
Normal on pad is the best way I think.

No shame to have. Simulation was made for wheel user I think, it doesnt even feel real anyway on pad.
 
Jackie Stuart uses the term "Mind management" I think if your mindset isn't right you can run into troubles even on the virtual track.

And yes, been there done that. It was like, "I was on fire the month before, who decided to pee on that bonfire I had going?" Felt like it took me a little while to get "my mojo back", whatever that means.
 
FD3S
Normal on pad is the best way I think.

No shame to have. Simulation was made for wheel user I think, it doesnt even feel real anyway on pad.
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I meant to say that I'm using a wheel. Only recently bought the XBOX wireless wheel, and although I'm used to using it now I still can't get times anywhere near what I was able to achieve with the pad.
I actually don't understand it - I'm able to take nice smooth lines through steady state turns now, in fact my racing lines around all courses are finally flowing rather than zigzagged, and yet on the longer courses I'm still a few seconds behind the times I was able to achieve with the pad :confused:

The only tracks where my times are much better are ovals/speedways.
 
SkylineObsession
Sound similar Rikki?

I know what you mean though, i have good days and bad days with this and other games.
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Well the AI certainly don't help my case, that's for sure. :D
The problem I have in the main game is the races are just far too short, meaning I feel compelled to drive like a lunatic to try and get to the front of the pack before the race is over. I think the very last race in World Tour mode, League of Legends, was a single lap of Nordschleife :confused:

But really the problem I'm suffering at present (the inability to drive as I used to) is my own stupid fault.
 

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