HD-PVR Cable Box on its way to me!

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UK Cable Company Telewest (of which I'm a customer) is now rolling out HD content through its premium "Teleport" service. This is basically TV on Demand.

In order to receive and decode the programming, they've released a new box, called TVDrive. Not only is it an HD receiver, but it's also a triple-tuner PVR (Personal Video Recorder) that can record two channels whilst watching a third. It comes with all the usual pause-live-tv and instant-replay functionality too. It's underpinned by a 160GB hard disk.

And I'm getting one next Thursday!

The beauty of this is that because Telewest have changed the terms of our contract, I'm basically getting the TVDrive for nothing. And because I was - erm - quite persuasive on the phone with them, they're waiving the £50 installation fee!

Whilst the box works on standard definition TVs (like ours), we're now going to have to go off and buy some form of LCD/plasma telly.

Yay for tech spending!

I'll put pics up as and when I remember.
 
Sounds very interesting. Do you know any of the technical details of the storage (length of video you can store, audio/video compression settings etc)?
 
Ah man that sounds brilliant, your making my 80GB sky box look trivia plus you got yours for next to nothing. :grumpy: *Ponders what Giles may have said to the lady on the other side of the phone ;)*

Will be nice to see your new setup when you get the LCD/Plasma screen. :D
 
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Sounds very interesting. Do you know any of the technical details of the storage (length of video you can store, audio/video compression settings etc)?

The manual for the device is available as a PDF.

X5
X5. Ah man that sounds brilliant, your making my 80GB sky box look trivia plus you got yours for next to nothing. :grumpy: *Ponders what Giles may have said to the lady on the other side of the phone ;)*

Will be nice to see your new setup when you get the LCD/Plasma screen. :D

I got my Telewest bill in the mail yesterday and did some maths.

I have the Supreme package, plus a second box in the bedroom. This means I'm paying an additional £15 per month for the second box.

But the TVDrive offer says that the drive costs "an additional £10", and that you can move your existing box to another room for "an additional £5". Further, if you take an extra box they (inexplicably, since it's more work) waive the £50 installation fee for TVDrive. Since I have 2x cable boxes, plus 10Mb internet, plus the telephone, I can't actually connect any more devices, so am ineligible for the "extra box" offer, or for the waived installation.

I just pointed all of this out, before saying that what I wanted was to get the TVDrive for no net increase in my bill, and that the installation should be free. It turns out that they should have decreased my second-box subscription at the beginning of March anyway, but hadn't, and I think they caved on the whole deal to stop me complaining about their billing process.

I'm tossing up between the 40" Sony Bravia LCD and the 43" Pioneer XDE plasma...

I might see if the women want to go looking at the weekend.
 
That forum is a tremendous resource for all Audio Video stuff.. Good news there Giles, spending money on tech stuff is always funner than buying new furniture or appliances. :)

Do share what TV you decide on....I was looking at a nice little 36" Wide Screen Sony LCD for upstairs but my Fridge died on me over the weekend so there went my fun money. I have a nice fridge though, it keeps the food cold and everything.
 
I looked up the TVs you're thinking of buying. Though, I didn't have exact model numbers, I noticed both sets retailed for about $1,980.

I don't like LCDs for TV sets, but I hear they're a lot better than when I was searching for a HDTV set. I don't care for Plasma either, but I hear it's just a touch better than LCD.

With that said, I looked over the specs, and I like the Sony better. The reason? More pixels. It has over 300 more lines horizontally than the Pioneer. That's a noticeable difference with 1080i sources, believe me. Plus, the screen size is three inches smaller, and that will help increase the sharpness even more. Plus, the Sony has DRC, which I also have with my CRT, and it's fantastic stuff. All sources, DVD, VHS, etc. look fantastic with DRC. Though, it's LCD so viewing angles may screw things up.

If both sets have the features you want and need, (I noticed the Sony only has one HDMI input, while the Pioneer has two), always buy the set that produces a sharper image. Damn the price. That's mostly what you'll notice once you take it home.
 
So Giles? Any updated info or has plans changed since the news of twins? ;)
 
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So Giles? Any updated info or has plans changed since the news of twins? ;)

Yeah, I've been meaning to add an update to this.

The Telewest man arrived and installed the box quickly and competently. He didn't seem to know too much about the product though, which is perhaps because it had only been available for about two weeks when we got ours. He answered two questions incorrectly. Oh well.

The box is a fairly anodyne-looking thing. It's made by Scientific American, and it looks fairly well made. The front panel has controls for the TV tuner and for the TV Drive features, as well as a front-mounted Power and Reset button. The Reset button is useful because of the fact that Telewest boxes are prone to freezing and odd behaviour. That said, ours has been quite stable: one reset required so far. We've found that when you place a new device on the Telewest network it's really quite unstable for the first month or so, then it seems to settle down.

There are three tuners, so it can record two shows whilst watching a third. It has a 160GB hard disk, which may be upgradeable, since the box has firmware to go find its own software updates. Like other PVRs, it continually records the channel you are watching, so you can do instant-rewinds (of the channel you are watching, from the point you started watching the channel or woke the box up, or 90 mins, whichever is the shorter), and pause, of live TV. This is exceptionally useful. The box can do this whilst recording from the other two tuners, so it's recording three shows at once. The Telewest engineer said that it could not do this, but was wrong. This functionality "goes to sleep" if the box is not used for 3hrs. A menu is shown, when this is happening, and the function restarts within about 3 seconds of being told to. It does mean that the box needs to be active for the live TV replay functions to work.

Recording shows is easier than something that's really very easy. You can use the EPG, or the "now & next" displays to record shows - just highlight the one you want, and press the Record button. That's it. Or you can press the "Record Series" button to record all instances of this show. It will warn you if you are trying to record three shows at once. The EPG and Now & Next displays are much faster on the TVDrive than they are on the tuner-only units.

The system does not cope with broadcasts that change their own timings (you can set recordings manually if you forsee this to be a requirements). It records at the appointed time, whatever is happening. This causes some difficulty with the less reliable channels (I'm talking about you, Eurosport).

You can access recordings by date, channel or series. Highlight the one you want, and hit play: it starts in about two seconds. It can record two shows whilst playing a recording. However, it cannot do "chasing playback" (the engineer said it could), which is a bit of a shame: when you start to watch a recording that is in progress, the recording stops. There is no warning that this is going to take place, but the box does show that recording is in progress when you are in the "recorded programmes" menu. If you need to stop watching a recording mid-flow, the box remembers where you are, and you can jump straight back to this point at a later date should you so wish.

The remote is simple enough, and button-feel is vastly improved from the Pace tuner-only units.

The box has two SCART outputs, supporting both Composite and RGB. It has an HDMI output for Hi-Def TV. It won't output to both simultaneously. There's also an Optical Digital Output for sound. The engineer said that this was active permanently, but I have yet to test that. There are also phono audio outs.

Overall, considering the fact that I got Telewest to waive the installation cost, and the rental is covered by an alteration to my price plan, I'm very pleased with it. The programming is child's play, and recordings are indistinguishable from the original. It's quick enough to respond to commands, and has been as stable as expected. I'm happy.
 
So, another update...

We've decided on the Pioneer PDP-436XDE. We're going to have it professionally installed by a contact of ours. I've just ordered a Denon DVD-1920 player to replace our venerable 7 year old Sony DVP-S725. The 1920 has HDMI output on it. I've also just ordered a Soundstyle rack to put the whole lot on.

Am currently still researching the best deal on the TV.
 
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