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I know you have gotten alot of settings... and here is mine...
This is what i would suggest for fr or mr vehicles
-Leave the suspension spring rates alone... or if you must fool around leave them proportiona.
-lower the car halfway to the ground
-shocks to 6 for light cars to 7 for most cars (rebound and bound)
-chamer larger in front than rear never more than 3 (i use 1 and .5 usually)
-toe can be set to 0 for fr and mr withour consequence
for lighter cars i use sways at 2 for most cars i use 3's
Chamber setting are what will give you oversteer... the bigger the difference the more oversteer you will have...
-brakes i set to even values back nad front so i can brake from high speeds to low speed corners at hte 50 m mark lol
sims
asm 0
tcs anywhere between 0 and 3 depending on the power i have in my car
with sims i never exceed more than 350
with super slicks i drift all hp
For 4wd cars the only change i make most of hte time is i lighten stage 1 or 2 for lighter cars and all the way for heavy cars like the skyline or vr4... and i have a toe setting of -.5 for front and between -1 and -2 for rear... this gives added understeer and counteracts 4wd natural ability to understeer charply after oversteer... also you need not countersteer as much with 4wd...
In adition around 50 more horses on 4wd than mr/fr cars would benefit the drifting... becuase with hp comes torque esp with turboes...
no need for weight reduction unless the car is really heavy... i like my cars around 1000-1200 kg or lower...
turbo/na/supercharged are all fine as gt3 has no turbo lag...
i do not usually fool around with lsd... and is more for grip racing than drifting anyways...
hope this helps
just some tuning basics to remember:
-always have more chamber in the front than the back unless the car spins without warning
-always leave toe 0/0 unless you are having understeer problems... then first adjust rear test it then front if it pulls out of a drift early (usually i use this only with 4wd)
-even brakes are nice becuase they decrease your braking distance... brakes should only be staggered if toe doesnt work when achieving understeer... in this case make rear setting larger than front...
-tires are up to you and the suspension and mods usually must be adjusted accordingly...
-stabs and lowering only will let you take tighter lines (to a limit)... and can aid the length of your slides by preventing some wieght transfer and thus preventing your outside tires from regaining grip if there was more body sway...
This is the best i can do to sum up what is kinstinct to many drifters, what acc/braking will do when sideways:
In regular driving and initiation of drift...The basics are if you loose grip on hte front tire before the rear tires you can expect understeer (ie the car will slide to the outside of hte turn) and if you loose grip on the rear tires first oversteer will occur nad you car will go sideways ( basically you are over turning for the corner)... these latter is made ready by your suspension settings..
In Drift many things can happen... some of the basics:
1)You took the corner at too high of a speed and you begin to drift outward or in the worst case you fishtail... You have to recognize the problem before it is too late... lets say you are going into the turn too fast and you begin to go to the outside ( not on the ideal line) what i usually do is bleed off some speed by getting as big an angle as possible... how do i get this angle... in two ways... you can break middrift and change your angle (just tapping) or you can gas a bit before you are at hte angle you want and keep it there until you are at the right speed. The first is for really overspeeding where you must brake... and the second is for slight overspeed where fishtailing is not really a danger... You must always remember not to loose too much speed or you will not finish the corner...
2)you approach at too low of a speed... hte only remedy here is slamming on your gas and using a slight slip angle hoping your car will spin the wheels... in lower powered car you have to recognize the problem before the turn and feint it... braking where necessary since its better in such a case to try and enter at a high a speed as possible...
i can really think of any more...
What i do for hairs... i brake in a straight to right speed and then i trailbrake into the corner let off the brakes and the hit them hard again to really put hte car sideways and slow it down for a nice drift...
what i do for 90 degree turns...
1) low speed (narrow road) i approach from the side of the straight that is the same as the inside of hte turn... at hte 100 i go to the outside side and at 50 i begin to turn and trailbrake and slide through the turn... Basically its like a fient braking drift...
2) high speed (wide road) i appraoch from teh outside and perform a similar drift as above but no swinging bakc and forth... just trailbraking drifts...
basically practice...
i found that cars like the fc and 86 were good to get some of hte basics down... but it was 4wd with my 400r and subbie 22b that taught me throttle control and such... basically mid drift skills...
This is what i would suggest for fr or mr vehicles
-Leave the suspension spring rates alone... or if you must fool around leave them proportiona.
-lower the car halfway to the ground
-shocks to 6 for light cars to 7 for most cars (rebound and bound)
-chamer larger in front than rear never more than 3 (i use 1 and .5 usually)
-toe can be set to 0 for fr and mr withour consequence
for lighter cars i use sways at 2 for most cars i use 3's
Chamber setting are what will give you oversteer... the bigger the difference the more oversteer you will have...
-brakes i set to even values back nad front so i can brake from high speeds to low speed corners at hte 50 m mark lol
sims
asm 0
tcs anywhere between 0 and 3 depending on the power i have in my car
with sims i never exceed more than 350
with super slicks i drift all hp
For 4wd cars the only change i make most of hte time is i lighten stage 1 or 2 for lighter cars and all the way for heavy cars like the skyline or vr4... and i have a toe setting of -.5 for front and between -1 and -2 for rear... this gives added understeer and counteracts 4wd natural ability to understeer charply after oversteer... also you need not countersteer as much with 4wd...
In adition around 50 more horses on 4wd than mr/fr cars would benefit the drifting... becuase with hp comes torque esp with turboes...
no need for weight reduction unless the car is really heavy... i like my cars around 1000-1200 kg or lower...
turbo/na/supercharged are all fine as gt3 has no turbo lag...
i do not usually fool around with lsd... and is more for grip racing than drifting anyways...
hope this helps
just some tuning basics to remember:
-always have more chamber in the front than the back unless the car spins without warning
-always leave toe 0/0 unless you are having understeer problems... then first adjust rear test it then front if it pulls out of a drift early (usually i use this only with 4wd)
-even brakes are nice becuase they decrease your braking distance... brakes should only be staggered if toe doesnt work when achieving understeer... in this case make rear setting larger than front...
-tires are up to you and the suspension and mods usually must be adjusted accordingly...
-stabs and lowering only will let you take tighter lines (to a limit)... and can aid the length of your slides by preventing some wieght transfer and thus preventing your outside tires from regaining grip if there was more body sway...
This is the best i can do to sum up what is kinstinct to many drifters, what acc/braking will do when sideways:
In regular driving and initiation of drift...The basics are if you loose grip on hte front tire before the rear tires you can expect understeer (ie the car will slide to the outside of hte turn) and if you loose grip on the rear tires first oversteer will occur nad you car will go sideways ( basically you are over turning for the corner)... these latter is made ready by your suspension settings..
In Drift many things can happen... some of the basics:
1)You took the corner at too high of a speed and you begin to drift outward or in the worst case you fishtail... You have to recognize the problem before it is too late... lets say you are going into the turn too fast and you begin to go to the outside ( not on the ideal line) what i usually do is bleed off some speed by getting as big an angle as possible... how do i get this angle... in two ways... you can break middrift and change your angle (just tapping) or you can gas a bit before you are at hte angle you want and keep it there until you are at the right speed. The first is for really overspeeding where you must brake... and the second is for slight overspeed where fishtailing is not really a danger... You must always remember not to loose too much speed or you will not finish the corner...
2)you approach at too low of a speed... hte only remedy here is slamming on your gas and using a slight slip angle hoping your car will spin the wheels... in lower powered car you have to recognize the problem before the turn and feint it... braking where necessary since its better in such a case to try and enter at a high a speed as possible...
i can really think of any more...
What i do for hairs... i brake in a straight to right speed and then i trailbrake into the corner let off the brakes and the hit them hard again to really put hte car sideways and slow it down for a nice drift...
what i do for 90 degree turns...
1) low speed (narrow road) i approach from the side of the straight that is the same as the inside of hte turn... at hte 100 i go to the outside side and at 50 i begin to turn and trailbrake and slide through the turn... Basically its like a fient braking drift...
2) high speed (wide road) i appraoch from teh outside and perform a similar drift as above but no swinging bakc and forth... just trailbraking drifts...
basically practice...
i found that cars like the fc and 86 were good to get some of hte basics down... but it was 4wd with my 400r and subbie 22b that taught me throttle control and such... basically mid drift skills...